So I just got a new MOAB 55@28 and I draw 28. I shoot 3 under and the bow is tillered for 3 under. Have a tenring Fury string with yarn balls. Shooting axis trad 340 cut to 32 1/4, with a total of 315 grains on the end. Total arrow weight 680 grains. Nock point tuned out at almost 3/4.
My bow is loud. I have tried changing brace height from 6.5 to 7.5 in and it got a bit better about 6 3/4. I am not getting contact with my arrows on the shelf so it isn't that.
The bow is making a loud "TUNNGG" sound. Not sure what else I can try. Very happy with my tune and the bows performance. Of not I did have to twist the string quite a but to get to brace but not excessively so.
Would appreciate any ideas you guys have, different string, different silencers, limbsavers. My arrows are already pretty heavy but am willing to try anything to get this baby quiet.
Have you tried the silencers at 1/3 and 1/4 from the ends?
Please don't read this the wrong way but I have 6 Moabs and they are all quiet.... none of them are loud in the least bit
I'm not sure if it's your release, your form, your brace height, you're not point or what but it should not be loud at all even without silencers. MOABS are known to be quiet.
Terry, that is what has me perplexed. I own another moab and a thunder stick 3 and both of those are death quiet, just haven't figured this one out. Will play with silencers tommorrow and see if that helps. If nothing else I may try adifferent string.
A few general suggestions...
nock fit
tuning
your release
silencer type, placement, and amount (leaving cat whiskers too long can add noise)
string material - some bows, for whatever reason, seem to "like" one material over another. If you try a different type, I suggest BCY-X, 18-20 strands with loops padded to 24.
Too much yarn on the string can make a sound like you describe. Smaller silencers will reduce the weight on the string.
M Moab only needed very small silencers.
I favor a pair of slightly smaller than golf ball sized rubber whiskers on my bows. I find that it does a better job at quelling vibration and noise than yarn. I will only use yarn on a bow that is already very quiet with a bare string.
LBR nailed it with his list. Too tight of nocks and a sloppy release will add noise for sure. Your setup sounds like it should be quiet, but certain bows can be finnicky. Keep in mind that a bow will always sound louder to the shooter than someone standing 10 feet or more away. Have a friend stand nearby and evaluate. To them the bow might be silent. Work hard to let the string slip off your fingers naturally.
I have also noticed that not enough as well as too many twists in a string can affect the sound level. There seems to be a sweet spot in both how much the string is twisted on itself and the brace height.
Thanks everybody, gonna continue to mess with it today. My yarn puffs are pretty small already but I may try moving them around. Nine worlds I think you may be onto something. I accidentally ordered the string about a half inch too long and currently have several more twists per in than my other Moab, which is unfortunately a 62 so I can't just swap strings.
I will follow up when I get this figured out but I suspect it may be the string.
Tight nock fit will cause noise.
I tend to agree with Terry... Both of my MOABs are very quiet. I am shooting the stock string with just a wool puff at the 1/4 points of the string and my arrows are right over 9 GPP...
Yep I agree with Terry also moabs are quiet as I know this one will be once I get it figured out. Today I played with brace height and the yarn ball positioning, I also tried knocks that were very loose but still the loud tung sound. Just ordered a new string for it so hopefully that will quiet it down.
Will follow up in a few days when the string gets here.
I can fix your problem, just the bow and weight I was looking for, sell to me and it won't be noisy for you anymore. lol
As others have mentioned my MOAB is/was the quietest bow ive seen this side of a hickory self bow. I use small Hush puppies on all my bows and heavy arrows. Try a different string,any string to see if that helps. It has been my experience that sometimes a bow doesn't like a particular string or maybe a bad string(from any maker) Ill go so far as to say that the Thunderstick MOAB may be the ultimate design. They are smooooooth,FAST,and ultra quiet.
Thanks guys. Gonna try a new string I am confident that has to be what it is. My other Moab is deathly quiet. This one is just telling me she don't like something. Love these bows, in fact I am waiting for Jim to build me another one right now, same specs just a plain Jane version, Osage riser and action boo limbs........you know you gotta have a backup bow!
I just had my first experience with a noise issue that turned out to be due to nock fit. The odd thing is that the same strand count string, with the same serving (material and size) with the same nocks are quiet on my other bows. For some reason this one bow requires a looser fitting nock fit.
I say toss the string and get one with padded loops,, I have never heard a loud Moab unless there's a problem with one of the limbs which I doubt but it has to be the string,, I want to say it doesn't even matter with the brace height if its that loud string to trash immediately.
Am confident you will accomplish your objective.
Good ideas to try another string and to also check your release for hand 'flip out', but if that doesn't help take a look at limb alignment and limb tiller.
A twisted limb might not show up at normal brace but can get worse as you near full draw...so have someone check it while you draw.
Bows tillered for three-under often have very low tiller...like 1/8" positive or maybe even tiller on both limbs. If it measures more than 3/16" positive you might get more noise than expected, especially if there are also other things wrong with your setup.
Hope you find the problem(s). If all else fails you can always change to quiet split finger.
what TSP said.
You may want to try a different tab or glove. I have tabs that are too nosy to hunt with as the material is too stiff.
If the string came from Jim it's not the string.... comes all mine came with Jim's strings and none of them are loud.
A different string still make fix it but its covering up something else that's really causing it
So, still tinkering with this bow and noticed a few things. I tried the bow spit fingers and it was much quieter.
So I went back and checked the tiller with my bow square measuring from the string to the limb at the fade outs. The top limb is 1/8 stiffer than the bottom. I checked my 2 other thundersticks that are tillers for 3 under and they measured even. Never had a bow with negative tiller before but not sure if it is normal for this design.
Now it doesn't seem like a lot but do you think that could be causing this bow to be loud? And should I call Jim and see about getting it fixed, or is this in the normal range.
Did you try possibly building a little ledge or like a hump that the arrow could sit on that might move your whole nock set up 1/8-3/16's of an inch to maybe get the limbs bending different?
9 shocks, didn't think of that but will give it a try. I do love this bow, just need to massage her into being quiet. I told my wife if I couldn't quiet this bow down I was gonna name it after her.
I GOT IT QUIET!! I put some trimmed cat whiskers on the string so I could slide them up and down, then started shooting. Once I slid the cat whiskers about an inch closer to the nock it was like I had a different bow in my hand!! I got not quiet, but silent! Man you shoulda seen my grin!
Funny thing is that now she shoots quiet at almost any brace height. I settled on 6.75 for brace and she is like a kitten in my hands.
Thanks for all the tips, I talked to Jim yesterday too let him know I got it and he said that my next MOAB will be done soon!
Man I love this bow! She's my new best hunting partner!