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Title: Tapered shafts
Post by: snag on January 25, 2016, 08:54:00 AM
"Breasted: An arrow shaft where the last 7 to 10 inches of the nocked end (the breast) is tapered in order to improve flight characteristics. Especially good for use with longbows. +50 feet to range along with improved trajectory."

I was reading some things over the weekend. Came across some definitions. I am asked a lot about tapered shafts. I have always preferred Surewood Shafts in a tail tapered, or breasted, shafts for my own arrows.  Might want to try them...
Title: Re: Tapered shafts
Post by: StanM on January 25, 2016, 09:34:00 AM
I always taper both ends, barrel tapered I think they call it. Seems like it makes a difference to me in arrow flight compared to untapered shafts of same spine. Very slight though. As poorly as I shoot I'll take every advantage I can get...   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tapered shafts
Post by: Pat B on January 25, 2016, 09:46:00 AM
I made some breast tapered poplars a few years ago and really like the way they shoot. Tapered shafts are like shooting cane or hardwood shoots, both pretty tolerant of different bow weights.
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Post by: elkken on January 25, 2016, 10:40:00 AM
I always preferred tapered shafts    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Tater on January 25, 2016, 12:26:00 PM
Tapered shafts.....   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Wudstix on January 25, 2016, 07:26:00 PM
Making up some tapered Maple right now.  
 :campfire:    :coffee:    :archer2:
Title: Re: Tapered shafts
Post by: The Whittler on January 25, 2016, 08:42:00 PM
Can you taper just to the point. The reason I ask is I have some arrows that are all done up but are way heavier then I want.

And does anyone have a jig to taper with for sale.
Title: Re: Tapered shafts
Post by: Fletcher on January 25, 2016, 10:04:00 PM
Whittler, yes you can, but a 10" taper from 11/32 to 5/16 will only lighten the arrow about 10 to 15 grains along with a couple pounds spine.  Unfortunately, it would remove the weight from the front of the arrow, which doesn't help with good arrow flight.

I have two thoughts on why tapering a shaft helps with flight.  First, it removes weight from the rear of the shaft which helps FOC and seems to quicken arrow "recovery".  I also think tapering has the effect of "tillering" the shaft, making it flex more evenly during the shot.  It's all theory, but that's my take.  I tail taper all my shafts.
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Post by: Soonerlongbow on January 25, 2016, 10:54:00 PM
I'm using tapered shafts, just made from carbon.    :archer2:
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Post by: Allen Boice on January 28, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
I've shot tapered shafts for years, first in POC and now Douglas Fir. In addition to all the great information already posted here I also like the 5/16" nocks tapered shafts take. My theory is that the smaller size helps to reduce finger pinch for split finger shooters, which results in a cleaner release. I'm also of the opinion the taper helps the arrow clear the shelf better which makes arrow spine less critical than parallel shafts. All theory, but it works for me. I can still shoot my ACME POC
70-75's out of my 50# LB's with good results.
Title: Re: Tapered shafts
Post by: Shadowhnter on January 28, 2016, 12:03:00 PM
I've shot parallel wood shafts for a while now, but went to rear tapered shafts over a year ago. So far, I'm leaning towards preferring the taper.
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Post by: Matt Fowler on January 28, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
I've tried tapered a few times over the years but never really saw any difference.
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Post by: Ron LaClair on January 28, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
Master Arrow Smith Paul Jalon tapers his arrows that I sell on my website, 11/32 to 5/16. The fly   Grrreat
http://www.shrewbows.com/autumnlegend/index.html
Title: Re: Tapered shafts
Post by: on January 28, 2016, 03:26:00 PM
I figure with tapered shafts besides the dynamic end, that the shaft maker has additional handling of that shaft in which it gets examined a bit to see if it is worth tapering.  Out of hundreds of Rogue River and then Wapiti shafts, I have had two shafts that were a bit wacko.  I suspect something in the tapering was slightly off, two out of hundreds, that is a pretty good average.
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Post by: luvnlongbow on January 30, 2016, 12:42:00 PM
I have shot both tapered and parallel shafts. That said I have noticed a bit better performance from the tapered shafts. I have used POC and Sitka Spruce. Love POC. However I prefer the Spruce from Hildebrand. I do have a question though. when tapering a shaft, how much does it affect the spine? A couple of pounds? Or more?
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Post by: Mud_Slide_Slim on January 30, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
Yep...I can tell a difference.  I get very good flight from my own arrows I make which are all parallel.  I have a dozen that are tapered made by Snag and there is a definite difference in flight.  I currently have about 20 Mahogany barrel tapered shafts that I am working on and can't wait to start shooting them.

Bill-
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Post by: jackdaw on January 30, 2016, 07:07:00 PM
Been shooting tapered POC for years..GREAT stuff...
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Post by: atatarpm on January 30, 2016, 09:19:00 PM
You can taper an arrow by taking a board and cutting a grove in it, then mark it at 10 inches twice giving you one mark at 10 inches and another at 20 inches. from there put your shaft in the grove with a 7 inch hand plain start at the first grove and plain all around the shaft. Once you have done that go to the second grove and plain again all the way to the end of the shaft. Sand to round again and you have a tapered shaft.
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Post by: Shadowhnter on January 31, 2016, 11:02:00 AM
I think my shafts came rear tapered a little less then 10" ....is that not enough?
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Post by: fujimo on January 31, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
rear tapers one third of shaft length- it seems to effect the spine less- yet still gives the desired effect.
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Post by: Tim Finley on January 31, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
I taper my shafts 11 inches from the nock. They are 11/32 and I taper them to 5/16. I have shot tapered shafts since the 70s and I believe they fly better .It seems like It takes about 2 or 3 pounds of spine off a shaft.