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Title: Proper clothing design
Post by: BAK on December 29, 2015, 01:42:00 PM
There are so many discussions and debates on the various types of clothing.  Wool. Down, Fleece, Berber, fur, etc.

One of the least understood seems to be the part the wind barrier plays.

When you build a home, we all know that the thicker the insulation is the better for R value.  What we all seem to forget when talking clothing is where we put the wind barrier.

On your house, it goes directly on under the siding.  You don't put it inside your house.  It can only work if it keeps the wind from robbing the heated air out of the insulation.

The exact same principle applies to clothing.  You can't change the laws of physics to satisfy the aesthetic appeal of feel or looks.

If you hunt where it gets cold and windy, the wind barrier has to be in the very outer layer of clothing.  If not it has little value in keeping you warm.

This is a simple truth, and there is no getting around it, other than marketing gimmicks to sell products with only marginal effectiveness.
Title: Re: Proper clothing design
Post by: KSdan on December 29, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
I thought windstop material was always in the outer layer. Curious of example where you see this being misapplied??  Thanks

Dan in KS
Title: Re: Proper clothing design
Post by: lpcjon2 on December 29, 2015, 04:21:00 PM
I believe warmth comes from the air pockets that hold the warm air from body heat that are between layers. So as long as the wind barrier is on the outer layer of clothing ( as an inner shell or outer shell) it will still allow for stoppage of wind.JMHO
Title: Re: Proper clothing design
Post by: BAK on December 29, 2015, 08:21:00 PM
I'll give you a good example of what it should be.  Check out Grey Wolf woolens, then check out the wolf-hide product.

Soft, light  water resistant exterior that resists burrs, with a wind-shear under that and insulation under that.

One of the few that is made right.
Title: Re: Proper clothing design
Post by: Tajue17 on December 29, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by lpcjon2:
I believe warmth comes from the air pockets that hold the warm air from body heat that are between layers. So as long as the wind barrier is on the outer layer of clothing ( as an inner shell or outer shell) it will still allow for stoppage of wind.JMHO
on the money!

same as footwear, if your toes are getting cold then buy 1 size bigger and let the air in your boot keep your feet warm.
Title: Re: Proper clothing design
Post by: bamboo on December 30, 2015, 07:16:00 AM
wind stopper sweater???