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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Iowabowhunter on December 27, 2015, 11:28:00 PM
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I have a new Toelke Whip HS on the way, 47# @ 28" I draw 29-29.5
Was wanting to shoot wood arrows, but with that light of a setup and re-reading old threads on lighter weight bows for chasing elk I'm not sure if wood is the best choice.
I really liked the ultra slim diameter deep six FMJ'S on my wheel bow. I can put outserts on to use any head I want. Wondering if it makes sense to try and get to 650 grains with a real high FOC since I don't have as much horsepower as a 60+ # bow
Thoughts from guys using similar setups?
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I shoot right at 50# at my 29" DL. I shoot 505gr FMJ's (not the Deep Six). I get entrance and exit holes in most everything I shoot, and quite a few complete passthroughs also. FOC is 20.7%.
Bisch
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You're using the GK Silver flames I believe Bisch?
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Either GK, or Magnus Stingers. I use both, but the GK's are my goto head..
Bisch
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Are you able to get the originals somehow?
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FWIW. I've owned two whips and for me...they both liked a lighter than normal spined arrow. I had a 50@27 whip that I used .500 spined shafts out of. With your 29.5 inch draw around 50lbs you might be able to front load some .400's
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Are the Whip's cut to center?
Thinking about trying some ultra micro diameter shafts from Zelor arrows.
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Guess my post should have been centered around "is 51# enough for elk hunting with wood shafts, or should I try to optimize my arrows"
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I'd run something in the 550-650 range and shoot what I like. I wouldn't do the crazy skinny stuff. I'd run Douglas Fir, Gold Tip Traditional or CE Heritage. I'd run a 8 strand SBD string on it. With that 300ish grain on the front of a 30" Gold tip .400 or 200ish on the front of a CE Heritage 150 will be just about right.
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Indians killed elk for thousands of years with wooden shafts.
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Originally posted by Iowabowhunter:
Guess my post should have been centered around "is 51# enough for elk hunting with wood shafts, or should I try to optimize my arrows"
There has been a ton of elk killed with wood arrows off a 51# bow. If wood is what you really want, then get some and get them really well tuned, and go kill an elk!
Bisch
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I shoot AD Traditionals cut to 29.75" with 250 grains up front (Either Abowyer Brown Bear or Cutthroats)
My Whip is 50# @ 28" and I draw right at 28"
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Mine shoots the beeman centershots nicely. I like these shafts much better than my gold tip trads.
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Hey Shedhunta-are those Centershots the same diameter as the Axis Trads from Easton?
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Hey Shedhunta-are those Centershots the same diameter as the Axis Trads from Easton?
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Wished you lived closer in Billings rather than Bozeman. I would bring you up some wood shafts of different spines and weights to try.Still have about 1000 shafts laying around and a few in your spine range even.They'll probably turn to carbon before I use em all up. LOL :) They do make some very heavy wood shafting to increase the energy extracted from the limbs upon release.S long as the diameter doesn't increase with it you would be fine at the standard 11/32" shafting IMO.
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For wood arrows, spruce or fir made up to a dynamic spine 5# over draw weight (per Dan's recommendation) fly beautifully out of my wife's bow. Heck, even when I shoot 'em, and my release is not that good. You would easily get over 10gpp (say 520grains with a 125grain BH), or as much higher as you want. With fir, that weight would be at the very light weight range of shafts for your spine.