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Title: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on April 30, 2020, 09:29:24 PM
I’ll start by adding the disclaimer that this review is after only shooting the bow approximately 50 times since unpacking it today. I think this review will be easier if I break it into segments.

The Process:

Approximately 4 weeks ago I called Dan Toelke and placed an order for a 58” Chinook but our communication actually started a couple months ago. I called Dan up and told him I was interested in a super d longbow. He immediately inquired what my draw was and I told him 26”, to which he replied that the super d was not for me. Dan knows his bows way better than I do and he explained that each of his designs has a sweet spot where the bow really comes alive. And he continued that my short draw would not be doing me or that model any favors. I have always shot longer bows but I also believe he knows his bows way more than I do. Up until this point having ordered from 4 other bowyers I have always gotten replies like “yeah I can do that” or “ yeah that sounds good”. I was intrigued that here a bowyer is trying to let me know what’s best for me. He asked a few more questions about my shooting style and such and I told him I didn’t have a lefty recurve. Dan said that if I walked into his shop he would have put a pika or a chinook in my hands. On the recurve front he explained that the chinook 58” comes alive at 25 and would be perfect for me. I ended the conversation with dan after over an hour of talking and told him I’d call him in a couple months. The months drug by and I finally got the ok from the wifey to make the call. We talked through woods and he again openly made suggestions based on his experience. I was happy and he said that the bow would be about 5 weeks. Official time was right at 4. Under promised, over delivered. My last custom bow was promised in 8 weeks and was delivered nearly 6 months later.


The Packaging:

The bow was supremely packed and arrived without so much as a dent in the packaging. One of the best packaging jobs I’ve seen.


The Bow:

The bow and workmanship are incredible. Dan and Jared are true artists at work, I’ll let pictures do the talking on this one. What’s more he includes 2 strings (endless loop), leather sleeve, and a bow stringer. Bow initially strung right at recommended brace height and the included nocking point was right on the money. I ended up raising the brace 1/4 inch (still in recommended range) and added a second nocking point.


The Strings

Quite simply I didnt know how I'd like the endless loop being a Flemish string guy myself. After shooting, despite the fact that I have tied my own strings for years (even had a business) I have already decided that for 20 bucks I'll just by his. String has not stretched one bit after an afternoon of shooting and braced perfectly from the get go. 


The Grip

The classic grip is wonderful and I’m glad I went with it. It’s more bulbous than the pictures let on and is a pleasure to hold. Every detail was thought of.


I honestly cannot find a flaw in the bow and the process was a pleasure. We will revisit this bow down the line for a follow up. My last bow took me months of setting up and I just couldn’t get it where I wanted to. This bow took 25 minutes between unpacking a drilling bullseyes with both  bow and arrow adjustments. I will link a video of a few shots I took with it. Full speed and slow motion included and pay attention the little guy at the end (had no idea he was there till I watched it).


The Specs

50 lbs at 26” Dan hit my asking weight exactly. The fact that he guarantees within .5 lbs of draw weight should speak of their talent. 58” Chinook with quilted maple limbs, linen Micarta Riser with cocobola accents.  Bow was named shadowfax.


Shooting

Bow is smooth and doesn’t have a normal recurve twang. Pleasant sounding and is one heck of a speed demon.

Highly recommend the bow and the bowyer.  Currently I have several custom bows and have shot quite a few (spent the day at RMS Gear two years ago).  So far this is simply the sweetest shooting recurve I have shot. It has a distinctive tink instead of twang and is pretty dang quiet.  Really digging it.  The crazy part is his prices are super reasonable compared to some. Also long wait times doesnt necessarily mean better bows. 5 weeks sure beats some of the wait times out there.

Video

https://youtu.be/kLyYTflYQIU
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on April 30, 2020, 09:36:21 PM
More photos
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on April 30, 2020, 09:38:12 PM
More photos.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Captain*Kirk on April 30, 2020, 10:15:00 PM
Gorgeous bow and terrific review! Especially the family fun part! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on May 01, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
Gorgeous bow and terrific review! Especially the family fun part! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks Kirk.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: the rifleman on May 01, 2020, 06:52:12 PM
You've got the best bow on the planet--- Toelke!  Ive got a shorter draw length and the Pika is my go to bow.  Your bow is also set up for the correct way to shoot--- left handed ;).  Hope it brings you many great memories!
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on May 01, 2020, 06:53:27 PM
You've got the best bow on the planet--- Toelke!  Ive got a shorter draw length and the Pika is my go to bow.  Your bow is also set up for the correct way to shoot--- left handed ;).  Hope it brings you many great memories!

Yes it is.  I switched to full time lefty earlier this year.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Pine on May 01, 2020, 06:53:46 PM
Looking good.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: BAK on May 16, 2020, 04:31:58 PM
Just ordered one of these in Black Glass yesterday.  Very similar specs only RH.   :clapper:
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on May 16, 2020, 04:36:35 PM
I almost did black glass too. Very classic. Look forward to your thought on it!
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Brandon Barringer on May 26, 2020, 08:51:41 PM
Great looking bow! I have been wanting one of those for a while.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on June 24, 2020, 05:14:27 PM
Great looking bow! I have been wanting one of those for a while.
Definitely recommend. I will post an update soon!
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: bowyorang on July 31, 2020, 10:08:50 PM
That's awesome. I also changed my mind on the bow that I was going to order after talking with Dan. I was planning on going with a Whip at 60". My draw being 26". He suggested that I go with the Whistler instead. Said it would be a lot faster at that length and draw. So that's what I ordered, as well as a Chinook for my wife.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on July 31, 2020, 10:09:45 PM
That's awesome. I also changed my mind on the bow that I was going to order after talking with Dan. I was planning on going with a Whip at 60". My draw being 26". He suggested that I go with the Whistler instead. Said it would be a lot faster at that length and draw. So that's what I ordered, as well as a Chinook for my wife.

Good move!!
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: BijanO on November 17, 2020, 04:14:05 PM
My Chinook T/D is a work of art and shoots beautifully.  I have a Border CH but the Chinook gets the majority of the attention. It's beautiful to look at and shoots just as well.  [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on November 17, 2020, 06:05:36 PM
That's a beautiful stick there. I will post an update soon on my thoughts going forward.  :clapper:
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Doug in MN on November 27, 2020, 05:50:05 PM
Dan is one of the great guys and an amazing Bowyer!!
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Jason H on November 27, 2020, 09:30:44 PM
Yes Dan is a great bowyer! I shoot a pika, simply love it! He is always helpful when you have questions about his bows. I want a chinook 😉
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: sqrlgtr on March 12, 2021, 09:50:09 AM
Just wondering have any updates for us ,cant just leave us hanging lol....
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on March 20, 2021, 08:53:46 AM
Will do a follow up report in the coming weeks. Basically it’s the bow to end all bows for me. I have seen many nice bows since I bought this bow, but I haven’t had the itch to buy another bow and it’s been nearly a year. I like this bow..... I want to take this one with me. That’s a good quick summary for me. I’m satisfied completely.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: rustyspike on March 22, 2021, 04:19:21 PM
Super post. Good looking bow. I pull 26 also.

Rich K.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on August 05, 2021, 09:36:07 AM
Alright. It has been just over a year since I received my chinook and have been shooting it exclusively since. The main things to take away for me are this. This bow is quite simply the quickest bow I have and is super pleasant to shoot. Let’s go through some stuff.

Process:
As previously stated the process was super smooth and Dan and Jared were so knowledgeable about there craft and the process has taught me that long wait times don’t necessarily dictate quality. The bow was promised in 5 weeks from initial call and arrived 4.5 weeks and was perfectly packed. Bow was packed in a sleeve and came with 2 strings and a very good stringer.

Finish:
This bow was hunted approximately 12 hunts in the last season and the finish doesn’t show a scratch in it, despite hunting some really thick brush. Very impressed how the finish has held up.

Strings:
The endless loops strings that toelke makes are so nice and hold up to thousands of shots. I just transferred to the second string and now use the first as my backup. Very impressed with the durability of the string.

Handle shape:
I went with the classic grip and absolutely love the feel in hand. It is surprisingly bulbous and the online pics don’t quite do it justice.  The original beaver grip is still in perfect condition and shows no sign of needing to be replaced.

Draw:
Full working limbs are smooth and the bow does not have the typical recurve twang and has no stack. It is super quiet and unbelievably quick.

Limb tips:
Limb tips are small, round, and super well done. Absolutely pleasing to the eye.

Woods:
I gave Dan a rough idea of what I wanted and he made some recommendations in terms of the riser and I have to say despite how small it looks the density of the linen mycarta riser is impressive and certainly lends itself to the stability of the bow. The curly maple used for the limbs is incredible.

Weight:
I ordered 50 lbs as 26” and they nailed it on the spot. Dan guarantees with 1/2 lb of asking weight and that shows his skill.

Advice:
I originally wanted a super d and Dan told me the chinook or pika would be better for my draw and I haven’t doubted him one bit. Happy I took his advice.

While Dan and Jared will build you what you want their input is invaluable and I definitely suggest listening.

Shelf:
Original strike plate and rest have had over 10K shots on them and still have years or use left.

Overall:
This is the most impressive shooting bow that I’ve ever laid my hands on. Having gone to RMS I have shot so many high end bows and have never found it’s equal. Toelke can satisfy the disease of needing new bows and can get you what you want quickly. I cannot recommend this bow enough.

If you are on the fence I’d pull the trigger.



Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: sdorton on April 08, 2022, 10:55:03 PM
My Chinook T/D is a work of art and shoots beautifully.  I have a Border CH but the Chinook gets the majority of the attention. It's beautiful to look at and shoots just as well.


I know this an old post but could you tell us what wood combo's this is? 
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: Petrichor on April 08, 2022, 11:48:01 PM
My Chinook T/D is a work of art and shoots beautifully.  I have a Border CH but the Chinook gets the majority of the attention. It's beautiful to look at and shoots just as well.


I know this an old post but could you tell us what wood combo's this is?
Looks like myrtle and a linen micarta riser.
Title: Re: Toelke Chinook initial thoughts
Post by: PrimitivePete on April 10, 2022, 01:13:31 PM
Great review and follow up. Thank you for the detail.