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Joefio6279:
Hello ive been shooting on and off for about 4 years  i cant seem to keep basball size groups at 20 all the time. Id say most of my shots are kill shots. But not as acurate as i want to be. All of my shots on deer have been perfect or complete misses. Im not sure if i should focus on solid anchor or just forget it do what i do and just shoot. I feel i dont make it to the corner of my mouth unless im forced to hold anchor in hunting situations or i aim off target then focus on target. Any advise would br great thank you.

Joefio6279:
Here are some pics at full draw

McDave:

--- Quote from: Joefio6279 on October 12, 2022, 01:04:43 AM ---Hello ive been shooting on and off for about 4 years  i cant seem to keep basball size groups at 20 all the time. Id say most of my shots are kill shots. But not as acurate as i want to be. All of my shots on deer have been perfect or complete misses. Im not sure if i should focus on solid anchor or just forget it do what i do and just shoot. I feel i dont make it to the corner of my mouth unless im forced to hold anchor in hunting situations or i aim off target then focus on target. Any advise would br great thank you.

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Hi Joe, welcome to TradGang.

Not too many people can consistently get baseball sized groups at 20 yards.  However, if you can consistently hit within the kill zone at 20 yards, say a 6” circle, then you are plenty accurate to hunt at that distance.

The only obvious problem I can see from the photos is that you are gripping the bow too firmly.  Try gripping the bow with only your thumb and forefinger, with the pressure point on the fatty part of your hand just below your thumb that is on the thumb side of your lifeline (which I believe would be the left side of the lifeline for you since you are a LH shooter).  Gripped this way, your bow hand should angle away from the bow handle at about 45*.  Your other fingers can either barely touch the back of the bow handle with your fingertips, or just stay out of the way.  I like to fold my little finger under so it is between the bow handle and my hand, to remind me to keep the 45* angle, but this is just a personal preference.

Perhaps a bigger problem is that you seem to be describing incipient target panic.  This rarely gets better with time, and can turn out to be a big problem when it gets out of control.  You always always always should be in control of the bow so you don't shoot the arrow until you are ready to shoot it, with whatever anchor you decide in advance of the shot, whether it's on your face or waving around in the air.  Obviously, I would prefer that you anchor on your face and aim at the target you want to hit rather than off to the side somewhere, but as long as you're doing what you decided to do before the shot, at least it isn't target panic.  If you can't control the bow to do what you want it to do, all the time, then I recommend that you nip it in the bud and enroll in some target panic training, like Joel Turner's Shot IQ course.

Joefio6279:
Thanks for the advice i didnt even notice my grip till now. It helps not everybody can keeo them in a basball at 20. I am right handed the video was a selfi video so it looks like im lefty. I dont have trouble getting off the string and i can hold. I just feel like my shot suffers when i try to really feel my anchor. The pics are snap shots from a video and they are all different shots.

Terry Green:
The BEST thing you can do is get on the bale and incorporate a Double Anchor....

If that doesn't fix it, yep, Joel

I draw the bow and my thumb knuckle grazes the corner of my mouth and continues along my jaw, as my middle finger comes in contact with the corner of my mouth I continue my draw till my thumb knuckle slides behind my jaw under my ear.  Yes, the middle finger drags the corner of my mouth a bit.

The 2nd anchor for me insures that I get the proper alignment and back tension.

If you just anchor in the corner of the mouth, your elbow can be pointing anywhere....by sliding my thumb base knuckle behind my jaw under my ear....I'm there...all aligned with proper back tension. 

I worked on this on the bale and grooved it in, I do not have to think about it at all, its just the way I shoot now as the arrow don't go till that 2nd anchor is obtained.  Its ingrained into my subconscious and really helps keep windage issues at bay.

So, spend some time on the bale for a couple of weeks and ingrain that double anchor.  Get 6 feet away and don't aim, just concentrate on you double anchor.

 http://tradgang.com/videos/tg/m27.wmv

Broadside profile with wife"s commentary   2.0 MEG  wmv file

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