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Title: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2021, 05:54:06 AM
Happy New Year

Hoping 2021 gets a lot better than 2020 was.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2021, 07:51:37 AM
It's off to a good start!  .3"  ice and 8-12"  snow forecast for today! Dogs got me up at 5 and then wouldn't go outside...  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 01, 2021, 08:07:27 AM
It's off to a good start!  .3"  ice and 8-12"  snow forecast for today! Dogs got me up at 5 and then wouldn't go outside...  :laughing:

Good thing it's you and not me :laughing:

Happy new Year :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2021, 08:08:23 AM
LOL, good dogs.

Annie, our 90 pound lab, had me hanging on the edge of the bed when I woke up, so I got up instead of hitting the floor.

29 degrees here, 1 inch of snow, fire in wood burner has house at 71 degrees.

Haven't burned but maybe 15 gallon of oil so far this winter.

Happy New Years guy...

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 01, 2021, 08:16:53 AM
Freezing rain then six inches of snow forecast for us today. Looks like a nice day to putter around in the shop. I started building a lyre for my niece yesterday. I never made a musical instrument before.
Happy New Year! May it be a good one for everyone.  :pray:
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 01, 2021, 08:41:32 AM
50 deg and rain here. I took a hot shower to wash as much of 2020 off as I could. Hope the rest of it just dries up and flakes off.  :thumbsup:
Looking forward to a much better 2021 for my family, myself and most of you guys  :saywhat: ...well OK, Roy too!
  Have a great 2021 guys.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
Haha the weather boogers now have us at 3-5” total .
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2021, 08:56:13 AM
Pat,  :laughing: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
I ain't looking again, they are guessin just like me...  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 01, 2021, 10:03:22 AM
38 here and thick rain here. Prolly gonna watch the tube today.  :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 01, 2021, 10:43:19 AM
Went from 20’s at night to 50’s at night.
Mississippi weather  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 01, 2021, 11:32:43 AM
Happy New Year, guys...

  Hate to rub it in but it's supposed to be in the high 70's the next three days... Maybe go to the beach when my work is done...   :) :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 01, 2021, 12:35:05 PM
Happy New Year everyone. Weather out west here is warm and drizzly, don't feel like winter yet.
I think we should all rendezvous at Rich's place, bring sunglasses, cause I'm one pale hombre!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 01, 2021, 06:45:38 PM
Temporary string wrap
(https://i.imgur.com/m0iAV83.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/H5pBlX4.jpg)

I braced it to 4-1/2" No limb twist
(https://i.imgur.com/DZvLqMp.jpg)
Stiff, after mid limb, both sides.
I used Eric's tillering gizmo and was looking under there to see if I had pencil lines under there and--------
Houston, we have a problem
I have a crack on the whole working limb on one side, I remember seing a line on the back, did'nt think it was anything :knothead: so I filled it with SG and will wrap it at mid limb
(https://i.imgur.com/f8U9SBb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yOV0nUp.jpg)

Here is the back
(https://i.imgur.com/Tnx9nBp.jpg)

1 more picture
(https://i.imgur.com/jlR1MNl.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 02, 2021, 09:04:37 AM
I see cracks in bamboo all the time and find when filled with superglue they are never a problem. I never clamp them closed after I fill them, I prefer to have a lot of glue in the crack to fill all the fibrous nooks and crannies.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 02, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
Hope it works for ya Mark.

Love the tillering string too:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 02, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
I see cracks in bamboo all the time and find when filled with superglue they are never a problem. I never clamp them closed after I fill them, I prefer to have a lot of glue in the crack to fill all the fibrous nooks and crannies.

 :thumbsup: Yes, I'm going to proceed

Thanks roy
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 02, 2021, 09:57:43 AM
Been watching this, Mark. Looking forward to seeing the end result. Interesting build.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 02, 2021, 10:12:20 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Autumnarcher on January 02, 2021, 10:15:39 AM
Ordered a bunch of shop supplies, and got in some hard water fishin.



Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 02, 2021, 10:32:53 AM
Fried pike and grits. Yum!   :saywhat:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 02, 2021, 11:38:20 AM
+2 on the tillering string :thumbsup:
Those turnbuckles are an excellent idea, it's always a pain to keep adjusting a timber hitch while tillering.
I love learning something new!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 02, 2021, 03:56:34 PM
On strike today, NO work :readit: :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 02, 2021, 04:12:36 PM
On strike today, NO work :readit: :tongue:

I understand...

 :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 02, 2021, 04:40:25 PM
Since we have crossed the space-time continuum into a new year, I will continue this here:

it might also help if the two outside clamps bottom legs could hook in the same hole in the middle where the center clamp is

It does need to move over :thumbsup:

The holes were just randomly put there as a generic clamping point. Since it is obvious the outer holes will need to be much closer to the center for most risers I will drill a set of closer spaced holes in the other end of the center support and make the middle hole larger to fit 3 clamps in if I need to. That will give me two sets of options for clamping up risers and lams.

No pictures yet today, I am just about to head out to the workshop to get started on things.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 02, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
Single digits and clear as a bell here today.  It's supposed to warm up to the high 20's tomorrow and drop 13" of snow over the course of next week.  Haven't posted much since the summer because we bought a house and I have been renovating the basement ever since.  I had contemplated posting pics of my progress but wasn't sure it was allowed.  Anyway, once it's finished we can move the things stored in my shop and I can finally set up and build again.  A belated Happy New Year to everyone!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 03:19:09 PM
Siyah delaminated

(https://i.imgur.com/bM5wLdr.jpg)

Still one layer on the boo, up buy the ruler
(https://i.imgur.com/U8J1rbQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bM5wLdr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qyMHjXy.jpg)

I going to remove the belly lam the whole 10" of the tip.
And keep moving forward with a new tip, what kind I don't know? Maybe a coat hanger :tongue:

(https://i.imgur.com/b0NZegb.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 03, 2021, 06:42:00 PM
Looks more like a fracture than a de-lam, unless you have pulled it apart.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 07:04:20 PM
Looks more like a fracture than a de-lam, unless you have pulled it apart.

Definitely delamed the spruce wile bracing and then broke the Ipe :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 03, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
Bad glue joint?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 03, 2021, 07:54:40 PM
That sucks Mark.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 03, 2021, 08:38:29 PM
That sucks Mark.

+1.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 09:27:52 PM
Bad glue joint?

Yes  :knothead:<-----Me
I got one limb glued up with some reflex today wif Smooth-on
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 03, 2021, 09:35:05 PM
Mark, did the spruce shear along the grain or even diagonally? Is that the initial breaking point?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 11:36:59 PM
The glue joint in the spruce stack, one layer was still glued to the boo
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 04, 2021, 08:20:59 AM
Sorry for asking if you mentioned it earlier but did you use wood glue or epoxy in those glue joints??
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 08:30:50 AM
Titebond lll
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 08:31:34 AM
 :saywhat:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 08:42:21 AM
I used water to soften up the very dry Sitka,   After gluing up the Siyah's , the glue that was coming out was too wet.
I thought it would be OK.

Moving forward
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 08:58:17 AM
Smooth on should work.. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 09:06:53 AM
Bad glue joint?

Yes  :knothead:<-----Me
I got one limb glued up with some reflex today wif Smooth-on

Yestaurday
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 09:26:08 AM
Bad glue joint?

Yes  :knothead:<-----Me
I got one limb glued up with some reflex today wif Smooth-on

Yestaurday

I know was agreeing wif ya....
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 09:44:41 AM
Making fish air bladder glue today. If I do not get glue I’ll invite some Chinese to fish bladder soup.

:laughing:

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 04, 2021, 10:18:36 AM
Thats a lot of fish bladders! What species of fish?
That soup would stick to your ribs eh?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 10:46:57 AM
Hain't you supposed to use tree sap for glue?

What the heck kind of trad bowyer are ya?

LOL

 :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 12:33:33 PM
I bought the dry bladders from China some years ago. I think they are from a croaker fish.
Tree sap we use as moustache wax and attaching arrow points. :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 04, 2021, 02:18:08 PM
I forgot to ask Bue, what do you use your fish glue for?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 02:44:52 PM
Flem. It is good for sinew backing bows and I have been thinking for a while to make a Turkish style horn bow. Mostly I guess I am a wood and glue nut, like to make different stuff. :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
Flem. It is good for sinew backing bows and I have been thinking for a while to make a Turkish style horn bow. Mostly I guess I am a wood and glue nut, like to make different stuff. :)


Build-a-longgggggggggggg time.
I would like to see that being made ;) no matter how long it takes :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
Bue's soup shop.

Curbside delivery.....
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Would probably make more more money selling soup than from bow making. Bladder soup takes long time though, two days soaking and 8 hours boiling. :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 06:24:19 PM
I could be there by the time it ready :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 06:27:54 PM
Would you like it with dumplings? :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 06:31:58 PM
Result 2,4 liters of liquid glue, how much when dryed remains to be seen.
Drying on shallow plastic lids.



Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 04, 2021, 07:24:43 PM
Hmm soup that really sticks to your innards  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 04, 2021, 07:34:40 PM
I can imagine the smell......  But I'll refrain from any analogies
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 07:46:54 PM
smells like fish pee :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 09:54:05 PM
Here is the first one cured

(https://i.imgur.com/VOiCMvg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Qj2LmFa.jpg)
And I glued up the other end today
--------------------------------------------
Some Buffalo Horn for the tips
(https://i.imgur.com/Ru2vRxA.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 04, 2021, 11:01:15 PM
Did the first dry run for my first glue up today. Had a few things that need tweaking before things will move forward, mostly needing to do some refining of the ends of the fades on the riser to get things mating properly. This is the deflex glue up where I take the belly lams and core and pull them back into deflex before pulling that assembly forward into reflex when the backing is glued on.

First, an overall shot showing all the posts in place with the riser, core lam and belly lams clamped in place:
(https://i.imgur.com/lw5MsAc.jpg)


A closer view of the riser area and the fades. Thanks to Mark for the suggestion to extend the ramp that the belly lams are bent against, that worked great:
(https://i.imgur.com/BG9bUl7.jpg)


I ended up with gaps on the ends of the fades on both sides. On the right I need to fine tune the riser curve a bit since it looks like there is a dip the belly lam is not dropping into. On the left the end of the riser is simply not thin enough yet to let the lams close together properly:
(https://i.imgur.com/vgYJqv5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B0S3LMP.jpg)


I ended up removing the posts closest to the riser, which gave more room to clamp the lams together and let the pieces bend a bit more naturally:
(https://i.imgur.com/bczuFTo.jpg)


I will rework the ends of the riser and see if that has solved the gaps problem and then can move forward with a real glue up.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: williwaw on January 05, 2021, 12:22:11 AM
looking good!
Quote
This is the deflex glue up where I take the belly lams and core and pull them back into deflex before pulling that assembly forward into reflex when the backing is glued on.
Deflexing the belly lam before glueup, but reflexing the backing? What profile are you hoping it will be when it's time to tiller?

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 05, 2021, 12:27:11 AM
Those fades look short and the ramp very steep. You might try using a French curve to achieve a less acute angle on your riser.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 07:00:16 AM
Those fades look short and the ramp very steep. You might try using a French curve to achieve a less acute angle on your riser.

x2
The fades need to be longer each side and less steep  :thumbsup:

Make a lam 4" longer than the riser, .125 thick and taper like this.
use 2 tooth picks to dowel the lam to the riser (so it dose not slide) and you will be good, the first 1' will bend and part of the 2nd " will bend too :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0ghan8.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 05, 2021, 10:46:32 AM
looking good!

Thanks


Deflexing the belly lam before glueup, but reflexing the backing? What profile are you hoping it will be when it's time to tiller?

If it all goes as planned the final profile will be reflexed with the nocks ~2" forward of the handle. By deflexing first, then reflexing when the backing is added I am getting a much larger Perry Reflex effect without ending up with a huge amount of finished reflex that makes it tough to string and overstrains the backing.

I am deflexing the nocks ~6" behind the handle on the form (the final amount will depend how much spring back I get off the form), then pulling them forward to ~3.75" of reflex on the second form. To get that much preload with a flat belly lam I would need to pull the bow into 9+" of reflex when gluing the backing on. That is sinew backed bow territory and more than the backing wood could survive. If it did manage to survive it would be tricky to final tiller and would be nasty to get a string onto.


Those fades look short and the ramp very steep. You might try using a French curve to achieve a less acute angle on your riser.

The fades aren't as short as you think, but I can look at making them longer next time. No french curves required, they are drawn in CAD and accurately printed onto a template, but suffered where I had to freehand the last of the taper due to not having a profile sander. I made a pattern for the riser and used a flush trim bit in my router to cut the ramps and into the fades, but had to leave material at the ends and finish the taper by hand on my belt sander. The hand work is where the problems are.

The ramp is working out to be a bit steep and I will be changing that on my next bow.


Make a lam 4" longer than the riser, .125 thick and taper like this.

I can't do that now, the stack is already completely designed to final thickness (like a FG bow). If I add a lam it will alter everything in the design.

I think I will be doing the next bow as you describe, it seems like an easier way to get the fine taper right to nothing off the end of the riser block until I work out a profile grinder of some sort. Now that I have the thickness sander working OK I know I can taper a lam to nothing with no problems.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 05, 2021, 11:42:10 AM
Forget the CAD, you need BAD= Bow aided design :bigsmyl:
I don't think the computer program knows you are building an artificially stressed design.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 05, 2021, 12:24:11 PM
Titebond lll

   I am not crazy about TB III...  Every time I bought it, it seemed too thick and was also lumpy...  I have glued up some outdoor wood things with TB II and no finish and they are holding up just fine...  Plus TB III is darker and and is easier to see the glue joints...  As long as you finish your bow well you should never have any issues with TB II...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 05, 2021, 03:35:48 PM
Make a lam 4" longer than the riser, .125 thick and taper like this.

After further consideration and discussion with others, were you thinking I should take 1/8" off the bottom of the riser and replace it with the extra lam or just add the lam into the stack? It might work if I cut the riser down by the same amount the lam adds. I will have to take a look at the riser and see if I think I can get it cut accurately enough. Tapering a lam to zero on the ends would be way easier than feathering the fades by hand as I am doing at the moment.


Forget the CAD, you need BAD= Bow aided design :bigsmyl:

Nice. You should copyright that quick before someone steals it.



I don't think the computer program knows you are building an artificially stressed design.

That doesn't affect the design in this case. All the Perry reflex is doing is reducing belly stresses, hopefully minimizing any set. This is very much an experiment and I am not too worried about my final draw weight. I have a target in mind, but part of the experiment is seeing how well the software predicts the final results.

You may not believe it, but the fades are very carefully designed. Where I have dropped the ball was in my execution of the design. If I can make Mark's lam modification work out then I will go that way to get nicely feathered fades.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 04:04:43 PM
mmattockx---forget the 4" longer :thumbsup:
Just glue on a lam 2" longer than your riser, to the riser.
reshape the fades, done

Shreddyyy I wet the lams wif water so they would bend easer , it needed TB lll for wet wood :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: williwaw on January 05, 2021, 06:24:12 PM

Just glue on a lam 2" longer than your riser, to the riser.
reshape the fades, done

MM,
I think mm's  question was how to proceed without a profile sander. I have been following along to see if there are alternative methods. I was recently looking at the wightman page with various HH bows. Does anyone know about earlier methods to shape ramps with thin runouts?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 05, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
Spindle sander, sanding drum on drill press, pulley on end of edge sander, pulley on belt sander or grinder, or sandpaper wrapped around 2" PVC pipe. Just about anything with a round profile you can get abrasives on will work.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 05, 2021, 07:21:04 PM
  Matock...  Don't listen to them guys...  If you do you could be missing out on the adventures and excitement of a two-piece, or possibly a 3 piece bow...    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 07:51:20 PM
I glued on some underlays and Horn tips
(https://i.imgur.com/5XOfANM.jpg)

Going to brace it tomorrow
(https://i.imgur.com/5VEnOs8.jpg)

Here is the  two together.
The top one is the one that delaminated.
and the bottom one has reflex in the last 7"
(https://i.imgur.com/lHL7SIr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7O98cH9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bvas on January 05, 2021, 08:42:42 PM
Spindle sander, sanding drum on drill press, pulley on end of edge sander, pulley on belt sander or grinder, or sandpaper wrapped around 2" PVC pipe. Just about anything with a round profile you can get abrasives on will work.
X2
No profile sander here.
Sanding drum on drill press to get close and finish with hand sanding. I don’t trust myself with power tools when finishing fades to paper thin.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 09:22:47 PM
Spindle sander, sanding drum on drill press, pulley on end of edge sander, pulley on belt sander or grinder, or sandpaper wrapped around 2" PVC pipe. Just about anything with a round profile you can get abrasives on will work.
X2
No profile sander here.
Sanding drum on drill press to get close and finish with hand sanding. I don’t trust myself with power tools when finishing fades to paper thin.

x2
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
My daughter and I shot our bows at 12:15 AM New Year's. Then we went out again in the afternoon and shot again. Jawge
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 06, 2021, 09:41:15 AM
Making memories with your child...   Good Stuff...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 06, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
Nice save, so far, Mark. The newest edition looks better than the original. Fingers Crossed.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 06, 2021, 09:57:57 AM
Hope it holds together, Mark.

George sounds like fun...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 06, 2021, 10:24:50 AM
Nice save, so far, Mark. The newest edition looks better than the original. Fingers Crossed.  :thumbsup:

I like the look of it too :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 06, 2021, 11:24:06 AM
Yeah, thats a sweet looking bow, hope it holds together for you after all the work you have put into it.
Going to video the stringing for us? ;)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 06, 2021, 08:25:15 PM
Yeah, thats a sweet looking bow, hope it holds together for you after all the work you have put into it.
Going to video the stringing for us? ;)

You have to Like/Ring bell/Subscribe all that $h1t

https://youtu.be/rs1jPua-Mko
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 06, 2021, 08:51:12 PM
You are the man! That was impressive, never seen anybody string a bow with a crescent wrench :clapper:
Glad it held together for you :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 06, 2021, 10:16:47 PM
I expected the limbs to take set off the riser so I glued on (smooth-on) a power lam off the fades 4" and up the ramps. :thumbsup:
I got the 8" of tips bending just a little today and mid limb out. Looking Mo better :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Hoosierarcher88 on January 06, 2021, 10:50:33 PM
Been helping my girlfriends father on a hotbox for getting bugs out of wood. Once that is all figured out we are going to make a more permanent version which i will also use for curing bows. The next project is a form for hill style longbows and we are going to try to build our first one together.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 07, 2021, 12:29:47 AM
You have to Like/Ring bell/Subscribe all that $h1t

That was so much less dramatic than bending it by hand and waiting to see if it blows up in your face.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 06:10:22 AM
Brings a new meaning to the name, Redneck:)

That was cool, Mark.

Hope it stays together for you.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 07, 2021, 07:03:32 AM
Patent pending. :clapper:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 09:25:06 AM
explain how it's redneck-e roy :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 09:32:10 AM
Well it was almost redneck cause ya didn't use duct tape:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 09:44:37 AM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 07, 2021, 12:12:50 PM
"How to string a bow in only 4 minutes and 34 seconds!   :biglaugh:

Anything to maintain Binocular vision.  :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 12:27:40 PM
"How to string a bow in only 4 minutes and 34 seconds!   :biglaugh:

Anything to maintain Binocular vision.  :)

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 01:02:52 PM
LMAO.....
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 07, 2021, 01:23:07 PM
I was worried about all that hardware in proximity to his manliness  :scared:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 01:41:47 PM
It's ah Mississippi thang:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bvas on January 07, 2021, 05:04:51 PM
Thems gots to be some of the biggest heaviest string silencers I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 05:51:06 PM
 :nono: :deadhorse:

Did you delete my comment Roy?   :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 05:54:55 PM
Yes I did, check your pm I sent 55 mins ago.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 07, 2021, 08:19:23 PM
  Hey....  Hey...  Hey..  Leave off the the guy...   Good thangs take time...   That must be one powerful a$$ bow that you going on there buddy...   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 05:02:59 AM
Made a jig for sanding back of RD riser.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 05:25:14 AM
Nice Bue..

Did ya use the soup glue?:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 06:13:14 AM
No I used screws on this one. You are up early Roy, we are 6 hours ahead of you. -6 C or 22F over here. Had to put on my striped winter jammies. :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 06:25:53 AM
It's 6:25AM here. I'm usually up at 4AM everyday. But take a nap around noon:)
29 degrees here, just fired up the wood burner...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 06:37:43 AM
Workshop with snow on the roof, not much snow so far, we are located close to the coast so most have come as rain. Inland they have lots of the white stuff. I share the shop with my wife who does weaving and textyle stuff.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 08, 2021, 06:55:19 AM
Been up since 4:30 and fired the pellet stove in the shop. May get one limb glued on the Something New today.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 07:09:21 AM
Landscape looks like Pa, Bue.

I didn't know you like to weave too:)

 :laughing: :wavey:

What type pellet stove ya have, Mike?

I have this in the shop, gotta be careful with the wood cause it will chase ya out.

Been many times I had to open the door and windows cause it was 80 degrees inside.

So now just a little wood at a time.



Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 07:37:05 AM
I am weaving floormats 12x4 from Fast Flight thread. :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 07:48:59 AM
Didn't happen wifout pichers:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 07:59:15 AM
I could make you one, but run out of pink so I guess you would not like it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 08:31:42 AM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 08, 2021, 09:20:22 AM
It's 6:25AM here. I'm usually up at 4AM everyday. But take a nap around noon:)
29 degrees here, just fired up the wood burner...

Noon, I can post my cartoon :laughing:
inside joke
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 09:47:09 AM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 08, 2021, 11:23:18 AM
4am?? I heard you do your best work in the dark :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 08, 2021, 02:16:02 PM
I could make you one, but run out of pink so I guess you would not like it.

Did ya make the striped jammies.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 02:23:25 PM
Nothing like striped jammies. Picture from last years jammie swap, I got this pair from Roy.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 04:55:02 PM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Stagmitis on January 08, 2021, 06:53:09 PM
Hey Roy thats a cool stove :) Whats the make,model size etc?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 08, 2021, 08:04:53 PM
Roy mine is a pel pro. It is on its 5th year. I had to replace the circuit board last year. $400 bucks This one is a cheap model and it is limping right now. Prolly gonna have to do something different for next winter.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 09, 2021, 10:33:47 AM
We are still using our Fisher Momma Bear that we bought used 40 years ago. I did replace the fire bricks last fall before fire season but other than that this $50 wood stove heats our 2000 sqft house with no problems...other than the mess a wood stove caused but after 40 years we've gotten used to that.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2021, 11:27:26 AM
Stag sent ya a pm
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2021, 12:01:09 PM
Hey there hot stuff, why are those fence posts leaning?

I like it, just wondered if it's a fence thing over there...

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 09, 2021, 12:26:49 PM
That's probably a bunch of pikes the neighbors set in the ground to keep him out.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 09, 2021, 01:13:25 PM
Roy, it is an old fence tradition here in Norway. I enclose a photo of the real deal and a drawing of my kind of fake fence, just use rough unpainted boards.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 09, 2021, 01:28:55 PM
Roy, it is an old fence tradition here in Norway. I enclose a photo of the real deal and a drawing of my kind of fake fence, just use rough unpainted boards.


Thats impressive! You folks must have some long winters up there :cheesy:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 03:46:58 PM
He is so far north, that's plumb  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2021, 03:53:21 PM
That's pretty cool, Bue.

Maxi,. lol..
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 03:59:41 PM
I thought they did snow fence on highways out West (USA) like that??
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 09, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
You used to see slat snow fences that folks would put up between stakes, but the only reason they would be slanted is because of neglect.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 07:17:21 PM
Mixed up some Shellac this morning for the Boo Slat bow
(https://i.imgur.com/jPFMdHj.jpg)

Tips are 1/8" wide at the nock
(https://i.imgur.com/yDq2ke6.jpg)

Need to sand the bumps and polish after it dry's
(EDIT) the horn is 1/2" thick
(https://i.imgur.com/TrgRHrS.jpg)

I filed a belly groove at the tip
(https://i.imgur.com/iUO2wOF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ClCndTH.jpg)

This Old dead Osage has some color
(https://i.imgur.com/ZIqFnNu.jpg)

Used some leather dye the other day
(https://i.imgur.com/w9hGOQE.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 09, 2021, 08:05:21 PM
Tips are 1/8" wide at the nock
(https://i.imgur.com/yDq2ke6.jpg)

Yowza. My last bow I had the tips at 5/16" wide and that seemed narrow. Guess I have a new target to shoot for...


I have no pics to post, still working on fine tuning the fit of everything on my lam bow. I went with your recommendation for an extra lam tapered to nothing and then removed some material from the riser to keep the stack correct. Still doesn't quite go together perfectly, but is greatly improved. I also flattened the ramps some to ease getting the belly lams up the ramp. I think my center piece on the form needs to change, it is in the way right where I would like to put some clamping force to get everything together. I'm going to think about that some and see what I can work out.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 08:27:25 PM
1/8" at the string groove x 1/2" thick

I edit the tip pic.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 09, 2021, 08:55:52 PM
1/8" at the string groove x 1/2" thick

I edit the tip pic.

I understand. I wouldn't try for 1/8" wide with wood overlays, but it makes me think 1/4" wide (appropriately thick, of course) isn't unreasonable.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 09:18:13 PM
You should be able to find some black horn in the dog chew area in a store.
I got this off ebay, about 3" wide 3/4" thick 5 or 6" long
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 09, 2021, 09:36:44 PM
Awesome finish and the way you are mixing it, edible too! Nothing like shellac for getting some depth and instant patina to your finish. I like mixing in a little crystalized Ponderosa or Doug Fir sap, it dries a little harder and smells like vanilla.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 11:05:06 PM
 :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 09, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
You should be able to find some black horn in the dog chew area in a store.
I got this off ebay, about 3" wide 3/4" thick 5 or 6" long

I never thought of looking in a pet store for horn, will keep that in mind. I have deer antlers, but haven't bothered with them yet. A local guy has yaks, I am going to try and get some horn from him when I get to it.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 10, 2021, 08:40:21 AM
I've noticed that pet stores charge an arm and a leg for those horn dog chews.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 10, 2021, 12:13:17 PM
Started a bow blank with 1” thick phenolic with these 1/4” scales on outsides and these lams . Think it will be OK ...

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 10, 2021, 12:22:56 PM
Man that is going to look good!  Pistachio scales?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 10, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
I've noticed that pet stores charge an arm and a leg for those horn dog chews.

I bet they do. It's small volume, convenience store pricing on something like that.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 10, 2021, 12:49:54 PM
In another month or 2 will be prime antler hunting time. If you live near deer woods they are usually free for the picking. Around here the rodents devour them before I can find them so I get them from hunter friends or look elsewhere for them.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 10, 2021, 01:11:58 PM
Kingwood is looking good and an riser with Kingwood with an Jatoba I beam
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 10, 2021, 01:17:34 PM
Kenny and Bue, those are sweet.

The big auction site has horn.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 10, 2021, 01:27:19 PM
Morado scales , usually none that light. Walnut veneers hand picked to go with the riser
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 10, 2021, 02:08:41 PM
Looking good Kenny.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 10, 2021, 02:56:56 PM
That kingwood is gonna be killer ,  Bue.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 10, 2021, 07:01:52 PM
Lovin Kingwood
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 10, 2021, 07:13:59 PM
Looks like it's going to be 2 nice risers :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 11, 2021, 01:08:53 AM
Continued work on my lam bow. Looks like I have the clamping sorted to where I can close the gaps at the ends of the riser and extra lam I added. Figured I would post a few semi-artistic shots showing the zero thickness tapering on the various pieces.

The riser. Shaped with a flush trim bit in my router, then feathered by hand:

(https://i.imgur.com/FXqJOm0.jpg)


The extra lam, feathered with my thickness sander:

(https://i.imgur.com/I5XWniV.jpg)


My tip wedges, feathered from 0.096" to zero over 4" on my thickness sander:

(https://i.imgur.com/nF2YY9d.jpg)


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 11, 2021, 07:43:33 AM
Very Very careful with them now so you don't break it off :pray: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 11, 2021, 05:47:11 PM
Yes sir if ya drop one of them (dont ask ) it really tends to chap your backside. :knothead:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 11, 2021, 05:55:25 PM
Those are cool pictures, makes the wood look really fibrous.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: flntknp17 on January 12, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
I glued up this tri-lam boo/cherry/red oak with osage accents on Christmas Day and have been working on it slowly since.  Shoots very well so far.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1197.jpg)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1198.jpg)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1202.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 12, 2021, 09:50:12 AM
Looks very good.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 12, 2021, 10:08:18 AM
I glued up this tri-lam boo/cherry/red oak with osage accents on Christmas Day and have been working on it slowly since.  Shoots very well so far.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1197.jpg)

Looking good, you do a first class job on the lam bows. Dimensions/specs? That's going to look great as the osage darkens over time.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 12, 2021, 10:25:31 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 12, 2021, 10:48:25 AM
  Good Stuff...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 12, 2021, 05:05:57 PM
Cool looking tips.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 14, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
No posts in 2 days! Is everyone hungover or what?


I did a full clamp up dry fit today. Everything looks good now and I should be gluing it up in the next couple days.

(https://i.imgur.com/Au0P63b.jpg)


I also drilled a couple dowel holes in my riser and lams to align everything.

(https://i.imgur.com/dVaTbrI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JIa15fW.jpg)


So why does experience hurt so much? :dunno:

Use 2 dowels everybody said. It aligns everything automatically they said. You know what else it also does? It puts a dowel right in the middle of my sight window.  :banghead: :banghead:

I didn't catch it until after the holes were drilled, of course. It won't compromise the riser structure since the back lam is one piece and will provide the tension strength there, but it is going to show and look ugly. The next bow gets one stinking dowel.  :knothead:


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 14, 2021, 06:19:03 PM
Butcher shop here today
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 14, 2021, 06:19:37 PM
Put  a  :) face on it and keep going
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 14, 2021, 06:26:07 PM
Put  a  :) face on it and keep going

I will see what I can do on that. :laughing:


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 14, 2021, 06:37:14 PM
It should be hidden behind the strike plate.
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 15, 2021, 05:57:57 PM
Too cold to do anything outside so I made a run at making phenolic.   It's in the wifes oven now and should be cured in a few hours.  Or tomorrow if she catches me! :o

I used EA40.  It was hard to work into the material and it might not be adequately saturated.  Thinner epoxy would be better.

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 15, 2021, 06:16:14 PM
In other words she isn't home?

If she sees that stove top,  yer in deep do do.

LOL you go Mike...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 15, 2021, 08:19:24 PM
...if he doesn't glue it to the stove top.   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 15, 2021, 08:39:17 PM
LOL I can see that now...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 16, 2021, 12:07:21 PM
Had enough computer time for now, it's a balmy 31 degrees and just started snowing.

Prefect day for the bow shop, started a fire a half hour ago to get it warmed it up...

Gotta redeem myself after the last bow failure:)

https://youtu.be/oibM4TvySs8

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on January 16, 2021, 12:42:17 PM
Nothing like a good wood fire.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 16, 2021, 01:18:58 PM
Yup and ya got kindlin now...  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 16, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Yup and ya got kindlin now...  :biglaugh:

Your going to Hell for that one Kenny :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 16, 2021, 01:53:58 PM
Sorry Rody ...  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 16, 2021, 02:12:09 PM
It would be great to have a shop like that to hang out in.

The phenolic project is done.  I got away with it in the oven too.  :)

The results were a little iffy in several respects but it was a success in terms of learning experience.

The EA40 seems to have worked out fine and it looks so far like penetratated completely.   I still think a thinner epoxy would be easier and faster to apply as long as it allows sufficient working time.

My pressure block system needs improvement.   The block that goes into the channel needs to have some clearance on the edges.  Mine was too tight and tore the sara allowing glue to leak and glued the block into the channel.   A chisel was needed to get it apart.   :o

This was pine.  Hardwood will make a much better pressure system.   But,  this one served for this experiment.   

Another thing is, I allowed some stray threads to get into the layup.  They will sand off but the end product will look better without them.

Next, notice that there are some fine lines in the surface that seem to be caused fine checks in the wood.  Hardwood with a fine sanded surface should solve that.   Also, notice the odd rectangular impression in the surface.  It was caused by the label on the wood that is seen in the same photo.   

All the photos below will illustrate the comments above.

Finally,  I'm going to do more of this but from a time and $$$ economy POV it's not worth it.   What will ??? Be worth it will be the ability to create a custom product with custom patterns and colors.  Otherwise,  just jump on Kenny's website and order it delivered!!  :)

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bvas on January 16, 2021, 03:20:45 PM
Mike, I made some phenolic a couple years back using the same method as you.

Couple things I did different that might help. Make the mold extra wide so you can trim to width you need. I think I did 2” mold with 1-7/8” fabric and pressure plate for 1-1/2” finished product. Also, use wax paper instead of plastic wrap. Folds much easier into the mold.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: flyonline on January 16, 2021, 06:10:25 PM
The EA40 seems to have worked out fine and it looks so far like penetratated completely.   I still think a thinner epoxy would be easier and faster to apply as long as it allows sufficient working time.

When I was into building composite RC gliders, the difference in specific composite resin and general epoxy (wests) was like night and day - don't know how you got that EA40 through!! If you have any composite type shop near by, see if they'll sell you a cup of resin from their bulk just to try before investing in thinner resin. The stuff I used had a pot life of 90min or so, and thinner resin will be quicker to wet out too.

My pressure block system needs improvement.   The block that goes into the channel needs to have some clearance on the edges.  Mine was too tight and tore the sara allowing glue to leak and glued the block into the channel.   A chisel was needed to get it apart.   :o

Do you have access to a food saver? They work great. For a release agent, a car polish wax can work, I've only used composite specific wax but I've read of others that used Maguirs type waxes successfully. Try a test run first before you layup something serious, composites can be weird, what works for me may not work for you and vice versa! You should be able to get away with just a release agent, any crinkles in the saran/wax paper will transfer across to the finish.

This was pine.  Hardwood will make a much better pressure system.   But,  this one served for this experiment.   

If you have access to the food saver, MDF sanded and sealed also works well. Aluminium channel also works great if you can get it in the right size.

Another thing is, I allowed some stray threads to get into the layup.  They will sand off but the end product will look better without them.

Try the lightest mist of hair spray to hold the fabric together. You can also wet it out on a carrier (e.g. wax paper) then place it into the mold.

Next, notice that there are some fine lines in the surface that seem to be caused fine checks in the wood.  Hardwood with a fine sanded surface should solve that.   Also, notice the odd rectangular impression in the surface.  It was caused by the label on the wood that is seen in the same photo.   

Yep, any imperfection on the mold surface shows up  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 16, 2021, 07:31:07 PM
No pics, but I glued up the first assembly on my lam bow experiment. Looks like I was light on the glue, too. Hopefully I didn't duff it too bad and it can be rescued once cured. I have never had an issue with dry joints before but I really underestimated how much the glue would soak in while I was getting everything situated and clamped. I need more clamps, too. Ended up short and a couple spots weren't clamped as well as I wanted.

Ah well, it is all educational if nothing else. Will see how bad it all looks tomorrow.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 17, 2021, 06:57:25 AM
Yup and ya got kindlin now...  :biglaugh:

Hey McKendzie-Boy..

Ah never mind:)

 :biglaugh:

Mark, it didn't happen wifout pichers:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
Mark, it didn't happen wifout pichers:)

I know, the rule of the interwebz. After a couple of old fashioned's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_fashioned_(cocktail)) last night and getting over the disappointment of having screwed that up so thoroughly I have decided that this will be kindling. I still have a good back lam and another good red oak board in the stash, so I think I will start over with new pieces.

I will pull it off the form today and get some pictures for posterity.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 17, 2021, 11:13:21 AM
Kindling is what keeps the shop warm:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 11:20:02 AM
Kindling is what keeps the shop warm:)

Sadly this is true. I knew this would be a walk through uncharted territory for me, but experience always seems to be more painful than expected.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: DanoMano on January 17, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
With about 2 weeks left of bowhunting,and an unfilled tag  I went and sat in my tree stand for a few hours.Not much was moving but enjoyed the sound of squirrels and birds around me,as snow flakes came down in slow motion.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 17, 2021, 03:56:40 PM
Brad and Steve,  thanks for the good tips.  I'm planning to improve the process enough to allow inclusion of some custom product in this year's swap bow. 

You guys have helped a bunch.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 04:50:17 PM
I pulled the lam bow deflex glue up off the form this afternoon. Mixed results at best, with a complete failure on the gluing front...

The bow after coming off the form:

(https://i.imgur.com/ljBBMPx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NZYu6rR.jpg)

On the plus side, it only lost about 1" of the 6" of deflex that the form had. I had expected quite a bit more than that, so it is a pleasant surprise.


A better view of the riser and fades with an 18" ruler for scale, showing they aren't nearly as steep as they looked on the form with all the clamps in the way:

(https://i.imgur.com/nU1mGRl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dnqk6jQ.jpg)


Now for the train wreck:

(https://i.imgur.com/lOro44t.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xTgiVjn.jpg)


The gaps are due to the lams cupping massively. I didn't get any pics of the cupping but it was severe in places, over 1/8" across the 2" wide lams. The glue up was dry in a few spots as well, which is my fault, but the cupping was so bad it didn't matter. I used TBIII because it is more than strong enough, is much cheaper than epoxy and non-toxic, but I didn't expect the lams to cup like they did from the moisture. It looks like I will be moving to epoxy for the next run unless I can figure out a pressure strip arrangement that will keep the lams flat while the glue dries.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 17, 2021, 05:30:00 PM
When we glue up glass bow with a fire hose we use 40 to 60 PSI to the hose.
those little spring clamps don't do much. If the clamps will close up the gaps on a dry run, you would be good.
If you have cupped lams, that's a problem.
This is gluing a .030 belly lam 4-1/2" long on the bow tip after the bow was glued up

(https://i.imgur.com/dM6S0lN.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
those little spring clamps don't do much. If the clamps will close up the gaps on a dry run, you would be good.
If you have cupped lams, that's a problem.

The spring clamps did close the gaps no problem on the dry fit, but were no match for warping wood when the glue was on. I wouldn't have used the spring clamps except I used all the others I had first. I am going to to order another dozen or so of the smaller F clamps for the next run. Fool me once, and all that.

What do you guys use for a pressure strip on the glass bows?


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 17, 2021, 06:43:09 PM
.030 sheet metal, some do and some don't for the fire hose.

for the rubber band method I don't know?
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Post by: Longcruise on January 17, 2021, 07:03:53 PM
For the rubber band method you want your pressure strips to be somewhat domed to prevent complications due to too much pressure along the edges.  Rubber bands will have a tough time holding the lams AND pressure strips down on those skateboard ramps.

I think you would be ok with the firehose and topless form approach.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 18, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
I made a Flemish bowstring jig for an old friend who manages the sporting goods dept at the locals Dick's. I have known him since he was a teenager about 35 years ago. He makes all kinds of strings in the archery shop at Dicks but never learned how to make a Flemish string for Trad bows, he sends all the people who want one to my house.

I have made hundreds of strings over the years and don't really like to make them, I find boring work. If I give Steve a jig he can make strings for these people.

I copied my old string jig that I made 35 years ago and have made countless strings on it. I put feet on my jigs so I can sit in a chair, make strings and hold the jig firmly between, my knees.

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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 09:39:38 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shredd on January 18, 2021, 10:13:31 AM
 :clapper: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Longcruise on January 18, 2021, 10:35:36 AM
I like your feet adaptation.  I have been clamping to a table but your method is more portable.
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Post by: Flem on January 18, 2021, 10:50:55 AM
I cant see what you are using to hold with your feet? I like the idea. I have been clamping to a table also, not ideal.
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 18, 2021, 11:02:56 AM
He means those pieces of 2x6 screwed to the bottom of the jig.  While sitting in a chair, he can put pressure on the outsides of those pieces with his knees to hold the jig steady.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 18, 2021, 11:16:53 AM
Hello! I see, no feet involved. I was looking for something attached to the jig legs :banghead:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 01:53:14 PM
Just glued up another bbo.

Still in shop putsen round.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 02:23:15 PM
Glued a bow blank to the form somehow . Hammer and chisel time ...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 03:03:50 PM
ROFLMFAO...

Rookie....

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 03:38:02 PM
ROFLMFAO...

Rookie....

 :laughing:

I got nuthin... :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 03:58:28 PM
I got it loose without damage to bow.  Does that make me a pro?   :laughing:
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Post by: Mad Max on January 18, 2021, 04:34:03 PM
Yep

mine stick a little at the fender washers, rubber hammer works
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 04:41:48 PM
I guess yer Ok.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 18, 2021, 04:50:12 PM
Glued a bow blank to the form somehow . Hammer and chisel time ...
Why would you even admit that? That would be like me getting hit in the head by the 25# pendant on the big crane at work and then telling everyone.
Once my head stops spinning, I look around to make sure nobody saw and get back to work. 😜🤕
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 04:51:31 PM
Started another BBO.







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Post by: Mad Max on January 18, 2021, 05:12:23 PM
 :jumper:
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Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
Started another BBO.









Better get after it Rody , cold snap comin... :goldtooth:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
Ah crap, don't say that snap word.
LOL
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Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 05:37:31 PM
 :biglaugh:  You're OK I reckon...
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Post by: Crooked Stic on January 18, 2021, 08:03:48 PM
Kenny should I be checkin my gwass for pin knots.  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
Glued a bow blank to the form somehow . Hammer and chisel time ...
Why would you even admit that? That would be like me getting hit in the head by the 25# pendant on the big crane at work and then telling everyone.
Once my head stops spinning, I look around to make sure nobody saw and get back to work. 😜🤕
Dave.

I got no secrets... 

I can screw up with the best! :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 18, 2021, 08:55:07 PM
My specialty is making bows that Ulysses couldn’t draw..... 🙂🤔
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: ztontonz on January 18, 2021, 09:37:47 PM
Sorry to hear that Kenny. I hope you can save the mold.

Today I measured bows I have. Dfc and chrono:


Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: 4 point on January 18, 2021, 10:52:15 PM
Glued this up yesterday and squared it up tonight. I stabilized the pieces last summer and just got around to doing something with them now. It's walnut and what I was told was maple but it smelled a lot like cottonwood when I was working it.
 (https://i.imgur.com/xkcoGok.jpg)
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 18, 2021, 11:44:49 PM
Made a new friend on the hard water today....

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Post by: Buemaker on January 19, 2021, 03:30:04 AM
Nice work being done.
Evil i like your new friend, hoping for a fish I guess.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 19, 2021, 08:01:13 AM
Great picture of the Eagle....

Damn those cracks in the ice would bother me...
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Post by: kennym on January 19, 2021, 08:43:37 AM
Travis, that's awesome!!

Feed that poor bird, Evil ! !!
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 19, 2021, 09:49:48 AM
The cracks had us a little sketched out at first as well.  We drilled a test hole before going out and the results were 24" of clear ice thankfully.  Still kind of gross to see everything below you though.  Don't worry about Mr. Eagle, he didn't really give us much of a choice when it came to getting his fish!
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Post by: Mad Max on January 19, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
Nice riser 4 point :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Flem on January 19, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
Thats one cool looking riser, Travis :thumbsup: Did the Maple feel as lite as Cottonwood?

That ice would sketch me out too :scared:
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Post by: Mark R on January 19, 2021, 11:46:05 AM
24" of clear ice is very strong you can safely drive a car on that, Mr. Eagle might be waiting for left over bait. thats really a nice riser block.
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 19, 2021, 12:07:40 PM
Beautiful riser Travis.  It never ceases to amaze me what you guys can produce.
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Post by: 4 point on January 19, 2021, 11:16:40 PM
Flem, I don't recall it being super lite. It sucked up a bunch of resin. Had a lot of mass after stabilizing
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Post by: kennym on January 20, 2021, 07:58:48 PM
Made a couple sleds, a bunch of lams , and went to the Farm office to visit them...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 20, 2021, 09:08:07 PM
Anybody looking to get into bow building needs to look at the classifieds. Shaun in IA has some good stuff to sell...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 06:38:57 AM
Is it gwass bow stuff?:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on January 21, 2021, 07:36:26 AM
Some, has a made in USA thickness sander for cheap tho so guess you could use it on that other stuff?

All pick up in IA tho I think it said.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 07:38:56 AM
That's a bit of a drive for me...
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Post by: kennym on January 21, 2021, 07:45:00 AM
Ya, but don't be sceered, ya got a Yoter doncha?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 07:47:54 AM
That and a new Jeep Wrangler:)

Gots yer address too..

Just sayen:)
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Post by: kennym on January 21, 2021, 08:50:27 AM
So yer bringin me the sander?   :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 09:00:35 AM
I guess I could:)
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Post by: flntknp17 on January 21, 2021, 11:52:15 AM
I glued up this tri-lam boo/cherry/red oak with osage accents on Christmas Day and have been working on it slowly since.  Shoots very well so far.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1197.jpg)

Looking good, you do a first class job on the lam bows. Dimensions/specs? That's going to look great as the osage darkens over time.

I haven't checked the thread in a few days.....

Thanks! I try to do the best I can with the few power tools I have.  Some day I'd love to have sanders and jointer tables to help with the process....but one thing at time.  This bow is 66" and 1.6ish wide at the fades after shaping and is full pyramid to 5/16" at the tips.  I've been having good luck using a piece of really hard material (like osage or che chen) for the tip and then only making a groove on the back of the bow and no grooves on the sides, but thinning the tip to a pyramid cross section so the string doesnt rub.

Matt


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 21, 2021, 12:05:05 PM
That and a new Jeep Wrangler:)

Gots yer address too..

Just sayen:)

Pretty sure you need the wife's permission to even open a door on the Wrangler.  :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 01:14:06 PM
LOL Mike..

Got me some buffalo horn delivered today...

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Post by: Mad Max on January 21, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
Nice, I like that white in there :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Longcruise on January 21, 2021, 01:44:19 PM
LOL Mike..

Got me some buffalo horn delivered today...



What kinda buffalo??  Who sells this horn stuff?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 01:49:38 PM
Bovine Water Buffalo....

Every slab of horn is a little different, that white doesn't necessarily run all the way through.

Very tuff stuff though.

Ya have a PM..
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: williwaw on January 21, 2021, 02:52:05 PM
Anybody looking to get into bow building needs to look at the classifieds. Shaun in IA has some good stuff to sell...


can you post a link to the classifieds? they don't seem to be easy to find.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 02:57:29 PM
You need to join as a Trad Gang Contributing Member, $35.00 per year.

Then you can see the classifieds.

http://tradgang.com/sponsors/cm.html
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: flyonline on January 21, 2021, 10:37:28 PM
LOL Mike..

Got me some buffalo horn delivered today...



Dunno, that looks like carbon to me  :laughing:  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 21, 2021, 11:27:39 PM
I've been thinking about alternative riser layouts and designs for my lam bow. While the first one eventually worked out, I wasn't really happy with the force required to get the belly lams into place, even after pre-forming them with steam. I learned a bunch in the first attempt and am sure I could get things to go more smoothly on a second run but I would prefer to design a better riser layout to eliminate the issues from the start.

I have been thinking that a riser more like Kenny's last FHLB would make more sense in that it lets me use larger radius bends for the belly lams, which should ease the glue up forces.

In the attached sketch my first riser is shown on the right with the FHLB styled riser on the left. In both sketches the belly and back lams are hatched to highlight them. The sketches are accurately drawn to scale, so all proportions are correct.

Let me know what you all think about the alternative design as compared to the first one.


Thanks,
Mark

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 22, 2021, 12:14:09 AM
   Mark...  How thick are your lams going up the ramp on the belly side??

   Where are they not going down??  Is it the last inch or whole ramp area??
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 22, 2021, 12:32:10 AM
I've been thinking about alternative riser layouts and designs for my lam bow. While the first one eventually worked out, I wasn't really happy with the force required to get the belly lams into place, even after pre-forming them with steam. I learned a bunch in the first attempt and am sure I could get things to go more smoothly on a second run but I would prefer to design a better riser layout to eliminate the issues from the start.

I have been thinking that a riser more like Kenny's last FHLB would make more sense in that it lets me use larger radius bends for the belly lams, which should ease the glue up forces.

In the attached sketch my first riser is shown on the right with the FHLB styled riser on the left. In both sketches the belly and back lams are hatched to highlight them. The sketches are accurately drawn to scale, so all proportions are correct.

Let me know what you all think about the alternative design as compared to the first one.


Thanks,
Mark

I think the alternative design solves your problem AND will be more attractive.  I might even "borrow" your design.   However,  I'm also thinking that the problem you had was more about form fit than the angles.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 22, 2021, 08:34:32 AM
   Mark...  How thick are your lams going up the ramp on the belly side??

   Where are they not going down??  Is it the last inch or whole ramp area??

x2
How long is the riser??
What is the radius??
How thick are the lams at the riser??
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 22, 2021, 10:05:55 AM
Fixed the bore for ya, Mike.

You can edit your post ya know?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 22, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
   Mark...  How thick are your lams going up the ramp on the belly side??

   Where are they not going down??  Is it the last inch or whole ramp area??

x2
How long is the riser??
What is the radius??
How thick are the lams at the riser??

Sort of in order:

The lams were ~0.150" where they went up the ramps. This is pretty thick and was a result of following Dan Perry's suggestion on the proportion of belly wood to back wood for same wood bows that use Perry reflex. One the next one I will be using thinner belly lams, more like 0.125"-0.130", with a thicker core.

It wasn't one spot as such that was a problem, it was more how hard I had to clamp them to get them on everywhere. I was worried about squeezing all the glue out. I boiled them and clamped them in place to pre-bend them but it still took a lot of force.

The riser block was 9.5" long and the lam I put under it to smooth the fades was 14" long. The riser ramp radius was just over 6.25". The alternative design uses a bend radius of 10.375" for both bends.


I think the alternative design solves your problem AND will be more attractive.  I might even "borrow" your design.   However,  I'm also thinking that the problem you had was more about form fit than the angles.

I think it will look good, too. You may be correct on the fit versus angles. This is all new to me so I am dealing with things on the fly with no previous experience to fall back on. Even doing the same thing again will go better because I have one attempt under my belt now, but I would prefer to have a better design to start with.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 22, 2021, 11:18:39 AM
Fixed the bore for ya, Mike.

You can edit your post ya know?


Whaaaa!!!

Just kidding, I know that.  It's harder to do on my phone so I just clarified. 

But, I sure am learning a lot from you this week, Roy!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on January 22, 2021, 11:54:03 AM
  As a rule of thumb I was always was told not to go over .120"...  6" radius sounds way too tight, especially for .150"...  10" radius still sounds way too tight...  But then it might work with the new design if you go down to .120"... I use a 18" to 22" radius and a thicker lam may still be stubborn to push down...  The riser sounds short also... 

Is this a glass bow??  How long is the bow, nock to nock??  Are you using a air hose??  It sounds like you are not and clamping it...

   
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 22, 2021, 12:17:09 PM
  As a rule of thumb I was always was told not to go over .120"...  6" radius sounds way too tight, especially for .150"...  10" radius still sounds way too tight...  But then it might work with the new design if you go down to .120"... I use a 18" to 22" radius and a thicker lam may still be stubborn to push down...  The riser sounds short also... 

Is this a glass bow??  How long is the bow, nock to nock??  Are you using a air hose??  It sounds like you are not and clamping it...

Again, somewhat in order:

6" radius with 0.150" lams is far too tight for a dry bend but not when the lams are boiled and formed. It is a larger radius than guys typically bend recurve tips to on selfbows.

10.375" radius isn't too bad for a 0.125" lam, that works out to a strain of 0.6%. Wood selfbows are routinely bent to higher strain amounts than that. I will likely steam and pre-bend the belly lam on this design as well, just to reduce the clamping force required during the glue up.

It is an all wood lam bow, no glass involved. Bow is 67" NTN, target weight is 40-42# @ 28". No air hose, I am indeed clamping it.

The riser length is really 14" from end to end of the fades with the lam added in. It can't be nearly as long as a glass bow riser because I need the working limb length to not over stress the wood.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: williwaw on January 22, 2021, 01:55:34 PM
mm,
Will riser-2 have a full length lam, or 2 half length lams with a joint mid-handle?
Have you considered tillering a wood pressure strip for the difficult areas?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on January 22, 2021, 02:40:49 PM
mm,
Will riser-2 have a full length lam, or 2 half length lams with a joint mid-handle?
Have you considered tillering a wood pressure strip for the difficult areas?

For the belly lam? I am going to try to do it in one piece. The back lam will remain one piece.

I am going to try using TBIII one more time, with aluminum pressure strips for the bulk of the limb length and shaped blocks for the riser portion, like I did with the first one. I have no complaints with the blocks, it was in other places I had the issues.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: flyonline on January 23, 2021, 02:30:34 AM
Thought about going outside for a bit of work on my latest (osage selfbow).

Looked at tomorrows forecast.

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Decided against it  :laughing:

Mind, that's down from a forecast the other day that had 45C/113F

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 23, 2021, 08:23:33 AM
Too hot for me! I’ll take your nighttime temps any time though...
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 23, 2021, 08:38:17 AM
20 degrees here and snowing.

Warm temps would feel good about now...
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Post by: kennym on January 23, 2021, 08:59:23 AM
14 here this morn  :o
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 23, 2021, 09:01:58 AM
Good day for shed hunting:)
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Post by: kennym on January 23, 2021, 09:05:36 AM
I know where my shed is and it’s 58 in there , thank you!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 23, 2021, 09:25:57 AM
 :biglaugh: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on January 23, 2021, 06:21:44 PM
Not today but yesterday I took the spousal unit for her first round of the vax.  Getting mine next Tuesday.   
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 23, 2021, 06:59:29 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Robyn Hode on January 26, 2021, 08:48:38 PM
I started an HBO bow then hurt my shoulder then got COVID-19. I am currently in physical therapy and hoping to start back on my bow. I used Roy’s form set up but removed the mid blocks. The glue up came out great but when I was removing wood for better tiller I hit a bad piece of grain. It tore out at the tip. I am going to cut off two inches and continue. I will send pics when I can. I hope everyone is doing well.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 26, 2021, 11:43:28 PM
Robyn
Sorry about your misfortune's

I'm getting my 1st shot next week
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on January 27, 2021, 09:39:54 AM
We must be expendable here in the hinterlands. Not many doses making it to Montana. I think we are still in the first phase of shots.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 27, 2021, 10:05:06 AM
We must be expendable here in the hinterlands. Not many doses making it to Montana. I think we are still in the first phase of shots.

Us old farts were setting up at the coffee shop talking about how to get the shot and looking at the website and one of the guy's sent me a link to it on my cell, a few minutes  later he said they just added more shots, so 4 of us got  appointments.
Monday may be a good day to sign up, check it often, good LUCK
Just a hour later all shot were gone.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 27, 2021, 10:28:00 AM
I've been trying and can't get anything
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 27, 2021, 11:20:43 AM
Might as well wait for the new Admin to get up and running before you try to beat the rush. 200M more doses were ordered yesterday which should have been done months ago. This will put us at over 600M doses all together. By mid summer to early fall most everyone that wants the vaccine should be able to get it.
 My wife and I are ready to get our shot but we're not waiting in line to get it.  She 72, I'm 70 and fortunately we are both in good health, No prescription meds for us so we can afford to wait until the forks that really need it, like med staff, first responders, essential workers, nursing home residence and people with illnesses, pre existing conditions.
 We'll just hunker down here at home except for groceries, etc and wear double masks when we do go out until it's all over. Hopefully that will be next fall or winter. With 350M people that need shots even with 1M a day that is a year at least. Hopefully they can get it done quicker.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on January 27, 2021, 01:46:23 PM
NOT sure that is correct Pat :dunno:
ordering and production are 2 different things.
I think it will be more than a year.
Don't quote me on that ;)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on January 27, 2021, 02:45:10 PM
I wouldn't doubt if it were a year, Mark but we can hope. We will be at 500K deaths by the end of February, I can't imagine what it will be in a year with 3k to 4k deaths a day in the US now.
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Post by: Mad Max on January 27, 2021, 03:18:34 PM
Yep
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Post by: rainman on January 30, 2021, 10:13:51 AM
 Good day cutting staves.


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Post by: Shredd on January 30, 2021, 10:41:57 AM
I wouldn't doubt if it were a year, Mark but we can hope. We will be at 500K deaths by the end of February, I can't imagine what it will be in a year with 3k to 4k deaths a day in the US now.

   It may not stop until everyone pretty much gets it or totally isolate yourself and stay out of harms way...   Best defense is a good immune system...  Get a good amount of sleep... Eat lots of raw veggies and have a good balanced and natural food diet... Exercise... Vitamins, especially C, D And Zinc... Keep stress low...  If you got health issues stay at home... Let some one else do your shopping... 

    Wishing you all the Best...
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Post by: kennym on January 30, 2021, 10:44:49 AM
Good day cutting staves.

Dan, you better get that feller out from under the truck.  :laughing:

Lot of staves there!
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Post by: Buemaker on January 30, 2021, 10:51:45 AM
He look kind of squeezed. Lots of nice yellow wood, I am envious. :wavey:
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Post by: Mad Max on January 30, 2021, 10:58:34 AM
Nice score on the staves :thumbsup:
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Post by: rainman on January 30, 2021, 11:46:32 AM
All that from 3 Osage and 1 Hackberry.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 30, 2021, 11:51:13 AM
Nice haul, Dan...
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Post by: Pat B on January 30, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
That's some nice yellar wood there, rainman.  :thumbsup:  :notworthy:
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Post by: Buemaker on February 02, 2021, 04:08:11 AM
Making a riser Kingwood with a Jatoba I beam. I use a profiling jig for the back, but since the belly ramps are different on upper and lower I frihand them......
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Post by: Mad Max on February 02, 2021, 09:25:36 AM
Looking good Bue :thumbsup:
Is that going to be a all wood bow? :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Shredd on February 02, 2021, 10:05:27 AM
Kool free hand sanding jig... I just use a block of trued up wood behind the riser but it is more stuff to concentrate on...
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Post by: Longcruise on February 02, 2021, 10:10:01 AM
Kool free hand sanding jig... I just use a block of trued up wood behind the riser but it is more stuff to concentrate on...

That's how I do it too.  With practice it has become pretty easy to do.   
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Post by: Buemaker on February 02, 2021, 12:37:35 PM
This one will be glass.
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Post by: flyonline on February 03, 2021, 03:45:31 AM
Got some work done on my osage spliced billet bow - after a new tiller tree was built to cope with the new "shed" (or lack thereof) after our move  :dunno:

Takes a small amount of reflex after some bending at the moment, from almost board flat to a 1/2" or so. Still has a bit of snake and prop twist to keep me on my toes and test my limited skills  :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 03, 2021, 06:09:20 AM
Looks good.

Is it taking reflex or deflex?
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Post by: Pat B on February 03, 2021, 09:41:21 AM
Looking good so far.
 If I may suggest, instead of pegs on your tiller tree use a rope and pulley. It is less strain on a bow being tillered and it's easier to exercise the limbs as you watch the bow bending. Once you get the limbs tillered out a bit you can use the pegs, pulling the bow less than before to use a tillering Gizmo to find the stiff and weak spots. Straining a bow that hasn't been taught to bend and recover yet can cause excess set. 
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Post by: Shredd on February 03, 2021, 09:59:20 AM
   What Pat said..  AI also use a cam cleat to hold the bow at draw...

https://www.shopsoundboatworks.com/products/scmefacamcl?variant=31949919912005&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2020-11-17&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=CjwKCAiAsOmABhAwEiwAEBR0ZktnXc4M-4nBjTLTOyV1Jhc1PB3niJIcNsnBOeymWElZMbPApt8e0BoCSQgQAvD_BwE
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Post by: Flem on February 03, 2021, 10:05:09 AM
You guys missed the "lack of shed" part of the post. It looks like his tree is freestanding
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 03, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
We didn't miss it.

What's that have to do with the bow tiller?
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Post by: flyonline on February 04, 2021, 12:56:39 AM
Looks good.

Is it taking reflex or deflex?

Ooops, lack of sleep  :banghead: Taking deflex of course.

Thanks for the comments on using the pegs, I only use it to take a quick photo as I normally use a rope 'n' pulley when tillering in real time. It's still some way under target weight (@ 40# aiming for 50ish).

Thanks for that Shredd, I was thinking that a catch of some kind would be better than me trying to hang onto the rope with one hand and use a gizmo with the other  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2021, 04:18:42 AM
I tiller with a pull rope but I also have holes drilled in the wall board of the tiller tree at every inch down the tree and I use a smooth shank bolt to hold the bow string down while using the gizmo.

How long is the string you have on the bow in that picture?

I start out tillering with a string that just barely slides into the string grooves and lays snug against the belly of the bow.

Longer strings lie and don't give you a true indication of the tiller.

Once the tips are bending down about 6 inches, I brace the bow to 4 inches and keep tillering.

When the tips are bending down 9 inches, I brace the bow to 6.5 inches and finish the tillering process.

So far your bow is looking nice.

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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2021, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from Bvas
Flem, gonna be used for accent stripes in a TD riser.


I did the same thing one time Bvas, I bet thickness sanding end grain on that osage was a pain in the bu__.
Mine was Hard Rock Maple. :knothead: mine wanted to burn when sanding
WE ripped it the wrong way :nono:

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Post by: Flem on February 04, 2021, 10:17:02 AM
We didn't miss it.

What's that have to do with the bow tiller?

My mistake. I have always assumed a tillering tree is a freestanding version and a tillering board is mounted.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2021, 10:35:50 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on February 04, 2021, 12:17:09 PM
Gluing up a RD bow. 8 layers so it will be a Smooth-On massacre. Fingers crossed.

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Post by: hunting badger on February 04, 2021, 01:33:35 PM
Finishing up a McKenzie T/D longbow for my nephew, 62"LH 53#@28", Tigerwood with a purple heart I beam. Limbs Action Boo with brown glass. Only the second Kenny T/D for me, turning out well, now I need to build another one for myself!
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Post by: Shredd on February 04, 2021, 05:05:35 PM
Hope she turns out well Badger...

   Smooth On Massacre...   :laughing:

No problem Fly...  Here are some pics...  Have the cam cleat about 16" above your pulley which is just 2 to 3" above the ground..  The cleat should sit back about a half to one inch from the rope...  When you want to engage the cleat  -  as you are pulling with one hand push the rope in towards the cleat with the other... The rope will slide in place...  Let off some slack and the cleat will engage... To disengage just pull on the end of the rope and the rope will pop out of the cleat on it's own...  Be careful to put the end of the rope safely out of the way when it is engaged and make sure the rope is not accidently kicked or pulled on when engaged...

  Works great and is very safe when used properly...  Guys talk about it slipping...  That's because they never used one...  It has not slipped once... And they are mainly used for sailing...  If they were to slip, on a boat that could be very dangerous... Possibly meaning someone getting slammed with a boom or thrown overboard...

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Post by: flyonline on February 05, 2021, 03:22:47 AM
I tiller with a pull rope but I also have holes drilled in the wall board of the tiller tree at every inch down the tree and I use a smooth shank bolt to hold the bow string down while using the gizmo.

How long is the string you have on the bow in that picture?

I start out tillering with a string that just barely slides into the string grooves and lays snug against the belly of the bow.

Longer strings lie and don't give you a true indication of the tiller.

Once the tips are bending down about 6 inches, I brace the bow to 4 inches and keep tillering.

When the tips are bending down 9 inches, I brace the bow to 6.5 inches and finish the tillering process.

So far your bow is looking nice.



Thanks Roy!

so far the string is at a very short brace height (1-2") and I'll twist it up as I go. I found out the long string lying thing a few bows ago - lost a nice little boo backed cypress before I worked out what I was doing wrong  :banghead: Now I go as short as possible without over straining the bow (or me!).

Shredd

thanks for the pics! I've got one on order now and I should be able to add it with only minor alterations to current setup  :thumbsup:

Steve
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 04:28:23 AM
Good deal Steve.
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Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 10:04:08 AM


Smooth-On massacre is over, got all the lams together and cooking. Will see tomorrow what it looks like.
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Post by: Shredd on February 05, 2021, 10:05:17 AM
  You'll like it...   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shredd on February 05, 2021, 10:07:01 AM
  Bue...  Something don't seem right...  You been hitting the shrooms again??
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Post by: Shredd on February 05, 2021, 10:07:36 AM
Ahh...  Yah fixed it...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 10:23:34 AM
I did:)
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Post by: Shredd on February 05, 2021, 10:40:04 AM
  You Da Man...
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Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2021, 11:15:19 AM
Nice fit of the hose.  I'm wonder if there will be less spring back with the increased lam count.

What is that tool on the window sill that looks like a rocker with handles?   :dunno:
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 05, 2021, 11:19:49 AM
It looks like a hand plane for inside curves.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 12:15:51 PM
Was gonna ask the same thing about the tool..

A blast from the past:)

(http://i.imgur.com/lGZU8vg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lGZU8vg)
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Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 12:58:02 PM
It is my double blade veneer cutter. ;)
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Post by: Mad Max on February 05, 2021, 01:52:29 PM
Was gonna ask the same thing about the tool..

A blast from the past:)

(http://i.imgur.com/lGZU8vg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lGZU8vg)

A happy man setting on his Mountain
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Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 02:07:59 PM
Kidding aside, The tool in the window is an old double bladed meat cutter used to make minced meat or smaller pieces
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 03:06:27 PM
Here is a very old tool.

Belonged to my grandpap.

Guess it was used to scribe lines, see the little pointy metal piece at the end in 2nd and 3rd picher?





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Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2021, 05:16:51 PM
Cool tools.  Roy, I use something like that for leather.

Bue, looks like a double bladed Norwegian ulu. :)
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Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 06:24:39 PM
My top forms are in two pieces, easier to handle I think

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Post by: Mad Max on February 05, 2021, 07:16:40 PM
Looking good Bue
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Post by: mmattockx on February 05, 2021, 08:17:01 PM
Guess it was used to scribe lines, see the little pointy metal piece at the end in 2nd and 3rd picher?

That is a woodworking marking gauge.

https://www.amazon.com/Crown-135-Marking-Gauge-Beech/dp/B00EC9AOZQ/ref=sr_1_37?dchild=1&keywords=marking+gauge+woodworking&qid=1612574179&sr=8-37


Mark
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Post by: kennym on February 05, 2021, 08:29:06 PM
Here's one in thousandths Rody...

https://www.infinitytools.com/igaging-3-in-1-digital-marking-mortise-gauge
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 08:42:16 PM
I kin work the other one easier:)
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Post by: kennym on February 05, 2021, 09:03:32 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 09:26:31 PM
An dah batteries last forever:)
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Post by: Eric Krewson on February 06, 2021, 10:27:27 AM
There is something about having a huge pile of osage that makes one feel like a rich man, special stuff indeed.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 06, 2021, 10:32:33 AM
Like hitting the power ball lottery:)
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Post by: Eric Krewson on February 06, 2021, 10:38:52 AM
Yep, under my house I have a big crawl space I can walk upright in, I loaded it up years ago and will never work my through my collection, there are two more full areas that are not showing.

(https://i.imgur.com/TUiz9qS.jpg)


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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 06, 2021, 10:43:49 AM
Eric that is an awesome collection of gold..
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Post by: Buemaker on February 06, 2021, 03:44:23 PM
Some progress, gluelines look fine and no springback on this one. From back Bjørn glass, Bubinga Waterfall veneer, 2 parallel Aboo, Uniweft, 1 Aboo .003 forward taper that 7 inches before nocks go into a .004 reverse taper, Bubinga Waterfall veneer an Bjørn glass. Riser Kingwood with Jatoba I beam.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 06, 2021, 04:44:22 PM
That’s going to be a beauty!
Dave.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 06, 2021, 04:46:03 PM
Yep, under my house I have a big crawl space I can walk upright in, I loaded it up years ago and will never work my through my collection, there are two more full areas that are not showing.

(https://i.imgur.com/TUiz9qS.jpg)

I'm not to far from you Eric :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 06, 2021, 05:21:55 PM
Very nice Bue.
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Post by: Longcruise on February 06, 2021, 05:25:01 PM
That's a wow on that one, Bue. :)
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 06, 2021, 08:00:32 PM
Gonna have a lot of arra wraps.

  (https://i.imgur.com/BeiLtzk.jpg)
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 07, 2021, 12:43:37 PM
Saw the Northern Lights for the first time out on the hard water last night.

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Post by: Flem on February 07, 2021, 01:15:17 PM
Beautiful! I have not seen them for years down here. I'm envious  :)
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Post by: Buemaker on February 07, 2021, 05:58:30 PM
Glued up a RD, Bamboo, Jarrah and Ipe.


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Post by: Flem on February 07, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
Holy Crap! Thats a lot of clamps :scared:
I don't think I could get them all squeezed before the glue set
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Post by: Bvas on February 07, 2021, 07:19:28 PM
Last day of deer season here. So was out trying to fill my last tag. With two minutes to spare, I filled my tag with the third doe of the season.
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 :goldtooth:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 07, 2021, 07:38:14 PM
Nice score  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on February 08, 2021, 09:50:44 AM
Hossenfeffer!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 09:59:36 AM
Bout time ya put some meat in the freezer:)
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Post by: Longcruise on February 08, 2021, 11:26:18 AM
Hossenfeffer!   :thumbsup:

Would hossenfeffer be horse meat?   :dunno:   :deadhorse:  :)
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Post by: Pat B on February 08, 2021, 12:01:02 PM
German rabbit stew.  :readit:  I learned that on Bugs Bunny cartoons.
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Post by: mmattockx on February 08, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
I finally got Kenny's care package in the mail, but it's been brutally cold for a week and not supposed to improve significantly for another week at least. My woodshop has a small wood stove in it but is not insulated and it is no match for temps in the -30's C (-20's F).

Started making my first real knife a few days ago. Cut it out and finished grinding the shape, but can't go any farther until it warms up enough to work without gloves for grinding the bevels. Steel is O1, 1/8" thick, 7.5" long with a 3.25" long blade.

(https://i.imgur.com/iLa7NNk.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/2y9f8Uj.jpg)


Mark
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Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 03:15:30 PM
Knife looks good
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Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 03:19:27 PM
Clamps off and ground on the side. Bamboo back, Jatoba powerlam, Jarrah center and Ipe belly. I helped a young man put it together.




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Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 04:17:23 PM
Nice Bue
Did you finish the Glass one?
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Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 04:25:33 PM
No, not yet. Will take some time as I have things to do.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 08, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
That looks good Bue.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 04:30:57 PM
 :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 04:40:19 PM
Nice Bue and I fixed the pichers for ya...

I think they are too high pixel wise vertically and TG software thinks the wide part should be horizontal.
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Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 05:36:26 PM
Thanks Roy. I take pichers with IPhone and IPad, but I do not know why they are being posted upside down. Probably what you are saying.
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Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 05:51:21 PM
Picture test, tried to rotate. From behind our house.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 05:52:10 PM
Good job big dog:) :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 05:54:33 PM
This was from IPad, will try IPhone next time.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 06:04:10 PM
Ok iPhone could be different and more difficult, rumor has it:)
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Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 07:55:18 PM
I was walking out to the bow shop and remembered there May be some Red cedar boards in the shed next to the house, there form 20 years ago.
Up in the rafters, 4 total with knots and the short one at the BBQ grill is white all over the back side 35" long.
I got 2 pieces 3/4" x 2" x 35" and resaw them about .055
From looking at it I though the veneers would be mostly white until I cut them.
 :bigsmyl: :goldtooth:
Just cut NOT sanded yet
(https://i.imgur.com/7VMXHXW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WBPlm35.jpg)
I like these
(https://i.imgur.com/cA4dUD5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TYFev18.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 09:02:10 PM
Awesome....
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Post by: Flem on February 08, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Beautiful looking :thumbsup:  Did it take on a color change from the aging?
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Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 10:40:22 PM
It's purple when fresh cut, red when dry.
The first cut veneer was a little brighter inside than the outside :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on February 09, 2021, 12:22:57 AM
Nice looking grain and light physically too.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on February 09, 2021, 04:37:47 AM
Treasure in the shed is nice.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 09, 2021, 07:47:49 AM
Treasure in the shed is nice.

 :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 08:08:24 AM
Do you wear a hard hat when ya enter that shed?

 :laughing:

Nothing smells better than cutting cedar...
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Post by: Mad Max on February 09, 2021, 08:12:50 AM
??????????? Roy

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Post by: Flem on February 09, 2021, 08:45:46 AM
Its said that if you have a nice tool, you should build a shed over it :saywhat:
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Post by: Bvas on February 09, 2021, 01:38:33 PM
Got about 8” of snow last night, so I had a snow day with the kids
Spending the day processing a doe I shot last week.

Took a little break to enjoy the fruits of my labor.  :bigsmyl:

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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
Otta be a law against posting pictures like that:)

Looks awesome..

Ya even have a deer hoof print in yer taters:)
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Post by: Bvas on February 09, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
I’ve seen the pics of your backyard.
You have enough deer running around to get your own.

Or do they stay just outside your 8yd effective range.  :jumper:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 05:39:14 PM
I dropped enough of them here:)
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Post by: kennym on February 09, 2021, 05:40:50 PM
""Or do they stay just outside your 8yd effective range.""

I think that's with the heavy artillery .... :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 06:57:14 PM
Knock it off tonto....

 :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2021, 08:29:05 PM
Had a little exercise in the shop today.

Log was cut 3 years ago and I left the bark on and stored it in the shop.

Moisture content was 14 % inside..

Check out those growth rings.









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Post by: Mad Max on February 10, 2021, 08:31:10 PM
Is that for belly slats?  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Maybe..
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Post by: Bvas on February 10, 2021, 09:02:39 PM
That’s gotta be at least a four pound sledge!!!

I bet Chris is tired after swinging it.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2021, 09:07:24 PM
It's a rubber mallet for show.

I pushed them wedges in by hand..
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Post by: Shredd on February 10, 2021, 09:11:37 PM
It's a rubber mallet for show.

I pushed them wedges in by hand..

 :laughing: :biglaugh: :laughing:
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Post by: Bvas on February 10, 2021, 09:19:06 PM
It's a rubber mallet for show.

I pushed them wedges in by hand..
LMAO
I didn’t know beer muscles were a real thing.
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Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 06:26:06 AM
That Osage looks good, I’m envious. Handle glue up went well, used 6 strips of Merbau and tips from moose antler. Now the young man can start to finish this bow.



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Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 08:09:41 AM
Easy way to measure centerline on glass bow. When blank is ground to width clamp a long straight edge and measure same distance in from handle and tips. Works good on take downs too. Kirk’s idea.


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Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 08:11:52 AM
Sorry Roy, can’t figure out how to rotate pics on IPhone
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 11, 2021, 08:19:05 AM
No problem Bue, I have a folder in my pictures just for you.

LOL
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Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 08:48:23 AM
Very good. Them old Norwegians need special attention. :biglaugh:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
 :wavey:
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Post by: mmattockx on February 11, 2021, 10:43:56 AM
:wavey:

It's currently -34C here with a -50C wind chill. Yours doesn't look too bad to me...  :biglaugh:


Mark
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Post by: Minnesota Bill on February 11, 2021, 11:04:33 AM
It's all relative, Christmas week of 1983 Southern Minnesota had bitter cold. Every night down to -30 or so and highs from -5 to -10.  My in-laws were visiting from Illinois, rented a car and drove up. They were with us most of that week then took the rental car to the airport and flew to Florida to visit relatives down there. The day they arrived there the temp dropped to the somewhere in the 20's and the next few days highs only in the 30's. They called and said it felt colder down there than when they were up with us at Christmas.  It appears that the humidity, dampness in the air, has a lot to do with this.  Talked with friends from Minnesota stationed at the great lakes navel base outside Chicago and they said they had never been colder due to the moisture, lake does not freeze up there? That said I can feel for you down there in Mississippi this week.
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Post by: Flem on February 11, 2021, 11:34:50 AM
My shop is going to take a few hours to warm up so I thought I would fabricate some new spindle sanding sleeves. I could never find any Zirconium sleeves, so I decided to make them. There is a pretty good how too on y-tube by an instrument maker. The only thing I do different is the protective wrap on the rubber spindles. The Luthier used parchment. I'm using clear packing tape because I could not figure out how to keep anything in place, parchment is like teflon!
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Post by: Flem on February 11, 2021, 11:44:06 AM
I forgot to mention that since I started making them, I have seen them for sale from knife making suppliers. But at $6-$10ea, I think I will continue to make them myself :goldtooth:


I will just add a link to this post. This guy pretty much covers the whole process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO2QT0LjLSw
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Post by: Shredd on February 11, 2021, 11:51:53 AM
Cool...  Maybe you could do a 'how to' thread on your process...
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Post by: flntknp17 on February 11, 2021, 11:54:21 AM
Got about 8” of snow last night, so I had a snow day with the kids
Spending the day processing a doe I shot last week.

Took a little break to enjoy the fruits of my labor.  :bigsmyl:



I did a double take because we have exactly the same dishes and we have similar tastes in food  :thumbsup:
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Post by: kennym on February 11, 2021, 12:12:22 PM
Ah heck never mind  :laughing:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2021, 12:24:10 PM
Ah heck never mind  :laughing:

 :laughing: My EA-40 got here today :thumbsup:
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Post by: mmattockx on February 11, 2021, 12:30:37 PM
It appears that the humidity, dampness in the air, has a lot to do with this.

The weather people will tell you that the humidity has no effect on perception of cold, but I will disagree. Most anyone who has experienced damp cold will tell you that slightly cold and damp is typically much more uncomfortable than more cold at lower humidity levels.


Mark
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Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2021, 12:42:42 PM
90* with 90% Humidity Is hot and wet
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Post by: Longcruise on February 12, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
Another day of too dang cold!  :(

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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2021, 05:27:47 PM
Put a new table cloth on the work bench...

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Post by: Buemaker on February 12, 2021, 05:58:57 PM
Dinner for six?
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Post by: Buemaker on February 12, 2021, 06:16:41 PM
Some years ago I glued up this glass bow. Out of the form I saw that belly glass and lams had been riding on one of the side supports close to the fade so there was a gap. I filled the gap with superglue, rough shaped the limbs and shot it a few times and put it on a shelf. Today I decided to try and save it. Stripped off the belly glass and are grinding down to the back lam. Will try to glue on new belly lams and glass. Just might work, just pi- - me off when I screw up. :banghead:

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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2021, 07:01:59 PM
Get er done Bue...
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 12, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
Nice Bue you floor ever see dirt.  :bigsmyl:

Roy is dat a gwass bow oven in da background  :wavey:
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Post by: flyonline on February 13, 2021, 03:53:30 AM
Got a bit more done on my splicey osage. After I worked out my scales had magically gained extra poundage (?) it's now at 45# @ 18" and still only picking up about the same amount of deflex as when I started. Finally starting to feel like a bow, rather than a log of wood in the shape of a bow  :laughing:

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What's the best way to reduce tip weight? Side tiller as I get closer to full draw, keep going as I am but take off as much from the sides as I can while keeping the tips stiff, bit of both?

Could be a longish while til I get it close to shooting in, about to start the grape harvest/vintage for this year  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 04:20:26 AM
Looks good Steve.



Stickypops what's you yapping about?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 07:09:03 AM
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Post by: Pat B on February 13, 2021, 09:04:07 AM
The best way to reduce tip weight is to leave the tips thick(1/2" or so) and to narrow them down to 3/8" or less. Wood is a lot stronger in thickness than in width. I usually save this until I get to brace so I can see how the string tracks. You can make adjustments just by reducing the width on one side moving the string over.
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Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 11:20:40 AM
   I personally think limb weight is over-rated to some degree...  Of course you don't want grossly over weighted limbs and slim and narrow as a general rule will always be faster...  I also feel that some of those older recurves with wide limbs, especially near the tips, whatever they gained in performance of recurving the limbs they lost some performance by being so wide...

    To prove my point about being over-rated, I was taking most of my limbs down to around 7 /16"...  I was never really comfortable with such a narrow limb...  Just looks a little on the frail side to me but I thought it is the way to go for performance...  One day I made a R/D bow that was shooting 187 fps...  The tips were rough sanded just a hair over 1/2"...  I said to myself, "Boy, wait til I take these limbs down to 7/16", this puppy is gonna scream"....  I did it and the bow went down to 184 fps...  End of story...  There are such subtleties in limb shape that you can't even see unless you map out the limbs and compare the way they bend... I keep kicking myself for not mapping out those limbs...

   Now I make my bows a 1/2" at the tips...  They look much nicer and stronger to me and I am not really losing any performance...


***  This was my experience...  Yours could be different when it comes to design and materials used...  No matter what anyone tells you, you should never take it as written in stone...  Take that info, store it, use it as a guideline or reference but you always have to find your own path... ***
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Post by: kennym on February 13, 2021, 11:28:09 AM
I agree Rich, a little wider may outweigh the  loss of reflex
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Post by: mmattockx on February 13, 2021, 01:18:44 PM
   I personally think limb weight is over-rated to some degree... 

I have not done the experiments you guys have but this is the impression I have gotten from the tests people have published. You need to take a significant amount of weight off to really change the performance. If you were making a flight bow then you would go all the way with it. If it is a hunting bow then it won't make a noticeable difference and the extra durability is probably more important than another 2fps.


One day I made a R/D bow that was shooting 187 fps...  The tips were rough sanded just a hair over 1/2"...  I said to myself, "Boy, wait til I take these limbs down to 7/16", this puppy is gonna scream"....  I did it and the bow went down to 184 fps... 

 :biglaugh:

Murphy sure is a jerk some days. I would suspect that your tips weren't quite thick enough and the lost stiffness when you narrowed them let the tips bend a bit and reduce the speed. Did you measure draw weight before and after the narrowing? Did it change any?


Mark
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Post by: flyonline on February 13, 2021, 04:58:56 PM
The best way to reduce tip weight is to leave the tips thick(1/2" or so) and to narrow them down to 3/8" or less. Wood is a lot stronger in thickness than in width. I usually save this until I get to brace so I can see how the string tracks. You can make adjustments just by reducing the width on one side moving the string over.

 :thumbsup: I've already done a bit of tip alignment, and could do a little more as I thin but so far string is tracking dead straight through the riser.

   I personally think limb weight is over-rated to some degree...  Of course you don't want grossly over weighted limbs and slim and narrow as a general rule will always be faster...  I also feel that some of those older recurves with wide limbs, especially near the tips, whatever they gained in performance of recurving the limbs they lost some performance by being so wide...

.....

   Now I make my bows a 1/2" at the tips...  They look much nicer and stronger to me and I am not really losing any performance...

For sure! Not going for any records or anything, just trying to keep hand shock down. If it ends up hiking up the hills with me it may end up being used as a trekking pole at some stage....

***  This was my experience...  Yours could be different when it comes to design and materials used...  No matter what anyone tells you, you should never take it as written in stone...  Take that info, store it, use it as a guideline or reference but you always have to find your own path... ***

My own MO for life/learning as well  :thumbsup:

Looks good Steve.

Phew, if the master thinks it's ok I must be on the right track  :laughing:
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Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 05:29:23 PM
quote - Mattox

Murphy sure is a jerk some days. I would suspect that your tips weren't quite thick enough and the lost stiffness when you narrowed them let the tips bend a bit and reduce the speed. Did you measure draw weight before and after the narrowing? Did it change any?


    You suspected right...  But I did not take the width just off the tips, I removed from the whole limb...  Removing a 1/16" off the whole limb can be a very subtle change so subtle that you could put two bows up next to one another and not hardly see any difference in the limbs bending...  But they are bending differently... That's where limb mapping is a useful tool.. When you get your design refined to the point of maximum performance there is a fine line, a balancing point... Tip the scales too far this way and you lose performance tip the scales too far that way and you lose performance...  I believe it's all about having that magic recipe... If the tip area is too stiff or the stiffness extends too long off the tips your dfc may look pretty good and the bow will draw real smooth but you will lose performance because you have the working area confined to a smaller area and the limb travel is a bit farther...

Yes... I always measure and record draw weight along the course of making a bow...  Yes...  The weight did change...   While experimenting I have also made bows that shot 180 when rough sanded and 184 when the bow was finished...  In my earlier days I would have credited that to a thinner limb and cutting off excess weight, which may be partially true but now I think it was more due to change in limb shape...
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Post by: Pat B on February 13, 2021, 05:31:20 PM
If the string is tracking well just take a little off each side.   :thumbsup:
 You referred to Roy as a Master?  :saywhat:   :deadhorse:
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Post by: mmattockx on February 13, 2021, 09:20:24 PM
Removing a 1/16" off the whole limb can be a very subtle change so subtle that you could put two bows up next to one another and not hardly see any difference in the limbs bending...  But they are bending differently...

Taking a fixed amount off the width will definitely change the bend, because you are changing the stiffness distribution along the limb. If you want to take weight off without changing the bend you have to take the same percentage of width off along the length, not a fixed amount.


Mark
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 09:29:58 PM
LOL Pat...
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Post by: kennym on February 13, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
If the string is tracking well just take a little off each side.   :thumbsup:
 You referred to Roy as a Master?  :saywhat:   :deadhorse:

I hear he's purty good at fishin too... :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 09:49:06 PM
I is:)
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Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 10:13:12 PM
Removing a 1/16" off the whole limb can be a very subtle change so subtle that you could put two bows up next to one another and not hardly see any difference in the limbs bending...  But they are bending differently...

Taking a fixed amount off the width will definitely change the bend, because you are changing the stiffness distribution along the limb. If you want to take weight off without changing the bend you have to take the same percentage of width off along the length, not a fixed amount.


Mark

   Agreed...  And it looks good on paper...

But do you remember what I said??  The limbs were rough sanded I was simply removing stock to get up to the lines I drew on the bow... Following the recipe that I already set into action and drawn out on the bow...  When experimenting with design you usually only want to change only one thing at a time...
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Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 10:27:46 PM
  Mattox-     Good luck with removing a percentage to back peddle and get the exact same bend while narrowing the limb by 1/32" off each side...  There are so many unforeseen things...  The odds are that you will not get the exact same bend and if you did the odds are that you will not get the same speed... Not saying that it could not happen but I believe the odds are not...
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Post by: Longcruise on February 16, 2021, 01:07:56 PM
Staying inside.   Working on some youth arrows.

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Post by: Flem on February 17, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
That looks like a great little homemade crester :thumbsup:
I especially like the rheostat
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Post by: Longcruise on February 17, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
Works great.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 12:19:16 PM
I have one I bought but the darn arrows seem to wobble a bit.

There needs to be something over the top that holds them a tad snug.
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Post by: kennym on February 17, 2021, 12:37:57 PM
A sandbag would work Rody...

Small one... :biglaugh:
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Post by: Flem on February 17, 2021, 12:45:01 PM
I made one and used 3/8" id. bike bearings instead of V blocks for the shaft to ride on. Took care of any wobble. I also gave it away to a guy who uses it to wrap bamboo fly rods. Cresting was not my thing :jumper:
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Post by: Longcruise on February 17, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
I have one I bought but the darn arrows seem to wobble a bit.

There needs to be something over the top that holds them a tad snug.

I use my finger. :)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 02:41:01 PM
 :laughing:
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 17, 2021, 02:41:42 PM
Heh...
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Post by: Buemaker on February 17, 2021, 02:49:32 PM
For that too?
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Post by: williwaw on February 17, 2021, 04:03:09 PM
  Mattox-     Good luck with removing a percentage to back peddle and get the exact same bend while narrowing the limb by 1/32" off each side...  There are so many unforeseen things...  The odds are that you will not get the exact same bend and if you did the odds are that you will not get the same speed... Not saying that it could not happen but I believe the odds are not...

shredd,

what does a "mapping" of the limb consist of?
a tracing of the bend? a numerical formula? your thickness and width recipe? a model in a spreadsheet?

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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 17, 2021, 04:08:01 PM
Check you limb bend every inch. some trace it on paper and fold it in half and get each limb the same all the way thru the draw. What the end is each limb returns to brace at the very same time.
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Post by: Longcruise on February 17, 2021, 04:33:15 PM
Check you limb bend every inch. some trace it on paper and fold it in half and get each limb the same all the way thru the draw. What the end is each limb returns to brace at the very same time.

Wonder if that return will vary with the grip?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 04:39:48 PM
Yup and where you pull the bow string from.
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Post by: Buemaker on February 17, 2021, 06:22:26 PM
Here is how I map limbs. I map at brace, at 20 inch draw and at 28 inches. Let us take one of my take down glass recurves. I strive for an even tiller and the deep part of the grip is the bow’s center. At brace I lay the bow flat on a long piece of paper, mark where the handle ends and draw a line along the limbs belly. Then flip the bow over so the handle is in the same place and draw a line again, I want the lines to correspond. Then I draw the bow on a 20 inch long stick and draw lines again and finally on a 28 inch stick. Even with limbs made on the same form, using exactly same thickness of lams and glass the limbs usually bend a little different and adjustments can be made if you find it necessary. Sometimes the bend is quite a bit different ( headscratcher) I am not sure, but to my way of thinking it is most important that both limbs bend the same at full draw. But then again when someone shoots the bow,hand placement, nocking point and technique must come into play on how the limbs bend. Anyway I strive to have both limbs bend the same when I map it. I do the same with RD bows. My 2 cents.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 07:32:37 PM
But then again when someone shoots the bow, hand placement, nocking point and technique must come into play on how the limbs bend. Anyway I strive to have both limbs bend the same when I map it. I do the same with RD bows. My 2

Exactly Bue and that is how my tiller tree is setup, taking into account that I will place the arrow string nocks at 3/8 inches above the arrow shelf, and I tiller for equal limb timing.
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Post by: Shredd on February 17, 2021, 08:23:39 PM
The boys mentioned some good reasons for mapping limbs... Here is another reason and my process...

   I sometimes map limbs when I am testing and looking for performance... I take a piece of paper and I have three tiller sticks...  18", 22" and 26"...  I put the bow on the paper at brace and trace the top limb on the back side of the limb onto the paper...  I flip the bow and see if the bottom limb matches the top limb bend which was drawn on the paper, for tillering reasons... Then I will trace the top limb using all three tiller sticks...  Then I will take another bow of the same design and with a different lam layup and possibly different performance and compare the bend to the one drawn on the paper...  If one bow is shooting faster than the other I will stay away from the slower bow's limb bend and try to tweak the next bow I make limb's bend similar but slightly different from the faster bow's bend hoping to gain a bit of performance...  Thousandth's of an inch can effect the bend and performance of a bow...

 ** Warning **   :scared:  Messing with tiller sticks could be very dangerous (especially at full draw)...  Treat with lots of caution as if it were a loaded gun...  Stay out of harms way as much as possible...  Make sure your tiller sticks are solid...
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Post by: williwaw on February 17, 2021, 11:25:10 PM
Here is how I map limbs...... draw a line along the limbs belly.Then flip the bow over so the handle is in the same place and draw a line again, I want the lines to correspond. Then I draw the bow on a 20 inch long stick and draw lines again and finally on a 28 inch stick.
that's how I trace the limbs when tillering a wood bow for evenness. I also like to have an unbraced tracing to reference for seeing set.


If one bow is shooting faster than the other I will stay away from the slower bow's limb bend and try to tweak the next bow I make limb's bend similar but slightly different from the faster bow's bend hoping to gain a bit of performance...  Thousandth's of an inch can effect the bend and performance of a bow..
Tweak the next bow by varying a thickness taper?

Heres an example stress curve.  Stress varies between otherwise similar bows if you change limb width, thickness, shape, r/d or length.  It might be an informative way to see what part of the limb is working harder.
Below it is the associated profiles for the example.
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Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2021, 12:19:26 AM
   Yes... I change the hyper lam (super lam) a hair...

  Interesting diagrams you have there...  Maybe you can open up a thread and explain in more detail how to work with that graph and how you plot it out, how you can gain performance using it and what to look for and what would be an optimal curve...  When I look at the WTT contest pics there is a question I always ask myself... Some of the highest performing bows appear to be bending a lot right off the fades... It seems to go against a basic rule of what a lot of guys think on here and also what I think what a bending limb should look like for good performance...   Am I missing something here?? Limb shapes can be deceiving... Maybe your method could help explain how those limbs are being stressed...

  As for me I use a good old dfc...  It's not an absolute but in general it is a good tell tail on performance and how the limbs are working...

   Any tool that you can use to plot some accurate numbers to get a better view of the inner workings of a limb is a good tool to me... 

  Bowyer's Alchemy -  Going deep into the inner workings and manipulating what you want in a limb...
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Post by: Flem on February 18, 2021, 11:49:14 AM
Good luck mapping asymmetrical limbs :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2021, 12:02:51 PM
 :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on February 18, 2021, 12:06:16 PM
I'm gonna throw a bow together and see how it turns out.  All this engineering is makin my head hurt.  :laughing:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2021, 12:08:47 PM
That’s a good looking bow in that graft
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2021, 12:11:34 PM
Me too Kenny.

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Post by: Flem on February 18, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
How about a Blindfold tiller challenge? See if it can be done by feel alone. We are bowyers, not cartographers. :smileystooges:
I bet this guy could get one dialed in
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Post by: Buemaker on February 18, 2021, 02:01:22 PM
Heat treating the Norwegian way. It is not me, I’m showeling snow.
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Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2021, 03:08:15 PM
   :knothead:  No wonder I keep getting Headaches...   :banghead:     :laughing:
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Post by: williwaw on February 18, 2021, 05:09:48 PM
That’s a good looking bow in that graft
that's a tweaked "design" taken off a bow I bought years ago. BTW, handles do not render well in the program, but are under such low stress I do not think it matters much.

The untweaked model is shown below for comparison. The graph shows a stress concentration at the fades.

Modification of limb crossection in my tweaked example lowers max stress and distributes it out more along the limb. Whether the changes would make the bow shoot better is anyone's guess. The model is somewhat imprecise because I had to guess at glass thicknesses when measuring out the bow.

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Post by: williwaw on February 18, 2021, 05:11:49 PM
Interesting diagrams you have there...  Maybe you can open up a thread and explain in more detail how to work with that graph and how you plot it out,

I would like to model something with known specs and open up the discussion to community proposed tweaks which I could post for all to review, and hopefully compare to a new build.

One possibility I have been considering for a build is a bow Stagmitis posted about in another thread.  It's an intriguing straight limbed design that did well in the WTT...

https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=174675.msg2952360#msg2952360

Shredd, do you still have the longbow mentioned in post 400? A pic would be nice! or a newer design if you are willing to share?

I'm gonna throw a bow together and see how it turns out.  All this engineering is makin my head hurt.  :laughing:
Perhaps Kennym or someone else has a longbow design they are willing to share if new builds are under consideration?

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Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2021, 06:13:09 PM
  Willi..    I am gonna send you a PM..
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Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2021, 06:32:26 PM
Back when I made my pattern sander it worked so well I bought a back up Assembly, You cant buy them new anymore, maybe some on Ebay

(https://i.imgur.com/JSwsIeu.jpg)

I was looking around the bow shop and found where  I stashed it :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/eVVDVik.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2021, 07:08:47 PM
Neat, looks like the top portion of a ridged sander.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2021, 07:25:06 PM
Neat, looks like the top portion of a ridged sander.

Because it is :thumbsup:
I bough t he floor model at home  Depot years ago for $100.00
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Post by: Eric Krewson on February 19, 2021, 09:19:49 AM
We had an inch of black ice covered with 3" of sleet and 6" of snow, I couldn't get out of the house or up and down my steep driveway, I have been house bound for 6 days.

I got out my number one toy yesterday and dug my way out.  I don't want to chance taking my F250 out on the ice but when it warms up tomorrow I should be good to go. I rode my 4 wheeler to the store only to find it had closed 5 minutes before I got there.



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Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2021, 09:26:04 AM
I'm not to far from you Eric, we have the same weather
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: williwaw on February 19, 2021, 09:28:54 AM
Glad to see you guys digging out finally. Not often you get that much sleet. BTW, your lucky the rain and sleet was not snow.  1" water = 1' snow.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 09:34:58 AM
Nice Eric, looks to be about the same as my Kubota.

(http://i.imgur.com/1mC6mkp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/1mC6mkp)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 19, 2021, 10:34:47 AM
Mine is a B-2650
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 10:56:18 AM
I have an L3200
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on February 19, 2021, 11:36:51 AM
I feel bad for all the folks who don't get winter weather often. All the 2wd cars with street tires combined with ice makes for mayhem on unplowed/sanded roads! The first winter I was going to school down in AZ, it snowed on Dec.24th. Never seen so many wrecks and abandoned vehicles!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 19, 2021, 11:57:36 AM
I was going to get an L but mine was the biggest I could get a belly mower on it. I have to have a belly mower because my neck is messed up and I can't look back to see where a finish more is cutting.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 12:33:49 PM
Understand that Eric.

My mower is a 5 foot cut on 3 point hitch, its 24 years old. I had it galvanized when new and rebuilt it twice.

It's still working great.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 19, 2021, 01:45:10 PM
I have a honda 22" cut. :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
I got a 2007 X-mark Lazer Z 60"
Bought it new :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bvas on February 19, 2021, 05:30:10 PM
I have a 22” that only my boy knows how to operate  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2021, 07:00:13 PM
Got a POS 46"  for the lawn and a 15'  Bushhog for everything else...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 19, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
I got a machete and a shovel...   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on February 19, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
No scythes yet?

 :bigsmyl:


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 08:01:28 PM
Sigh:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 19, 2021, 08:18:24 PM
I got a guy that mows mine once a week.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: williwaw on February 19, 2021, 08:49:07 PM
the swamp donkeys mow everything right up to the gravel here, so I bought a shiny red outboard instead.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: flyonline on February 20, 2021, 05:52:28 AM
My cam cleat showed up this week and I got a chance to do a bit of work today. Easy peasy installation and super easy to use, can't believe it has taken me this long to get roundtoit, thanks Shredd  :notworthy:  :notworthy:







Hitting 50# @ 22" now, still a little ways to go but a few shaves here and there is getting me there slowly. Right limb (top) is a little weaker than the bottom so yet to even them up a touch. Started on shaping up the grip and shot my heavy 'shoot-in' arrow from short draw and it's nice and quick  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2021, 05:58:41 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 20, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
Nice...  My pleasure...

  Suggestion...  Raise that tree up to the top of that doorway... (80"}  And move that cleat up about 16" from the pulley...  You won't have to bend over as much to engage, it should be easier to engage and may be a bit safer to use...   

   You could just add wood to the bottom of the tree or make another if you choose...  I don't know if I would trust those easy clamps so much... Might wanna use C clamps...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2021, 11:58:33 AM
got a pair now.
(https://i.imgur.com/GIkB5rE.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2021, 12:28:48 PM
Those are sweet, Mike.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2021, 03:12:46 PM
Those are sweet, Mike.

x2 stic :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2021, 03:13:41 PM
Today and yesterday I laid around. Yesterday morning I woke up and my lower back had decided to go a different direction than the rest of my body.  :o   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2021, 03:18:03 PM
I deal with that almost everyday....
Hope ya feel better soon, Pat.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2021, 03:19:49 PM
I know that feeling. Think it is golden years  :bigsmyl:

The Predators are sweet
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2021, 05:18:00 PM
...but where is the gold?  :dunno:
I've been dealing with this for over 30 years now, on and off. Generally a few days on the couch with Ibuprofen will do the trick. It funny, it never bothers me if I'm working but just sitting around does it every time.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2021, 05:23:39 PM
...but where is the gold?  :dunno:
I've been dealing with this for over 30 years now, on and off. Generally a few days on the couch with Ibuprofen will do the trick. It funny, it never bothers me if I'm working but just sitting around does it every time.

me too
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 20, 2021, 09:17:43 PM
Took a day away from home and hit the foothills.   Came home and fell asleep for a couple hours.

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And no, my oil pressure isn't low but the sensor is shot.  :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
Got the bow I'm donating to my states bowhunters organization roughed out.  Hopefully get the final sanding and a coat of finish on it tomorrow. Had to steal the birdseye out of my personal stash. I don't seem to get time to build myself a bow anyway.
(https://i.imgur.com/dvzgFRY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FKD0pz4.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2021, 11:51:15 PM
You got the shaping of the riser down pat 4 point :thumbsup:
Looks really good :clapper:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 21, 2021, 12:02:11 AM
  Nice... I like how your lines flow with your accents...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2021, 04:27:08 AM
Travis that is awesome.

Mike why not much snow?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Walt Francis on February 21, 2021, 08:55:58 AM
Got the bow I'm donating to my states bowhunters organization roughed out.  Hopefully get the final sanding and a coat of finish on it tomorrow. Had to steal the birdseye out of my personal stash. I don't seem to get time to build myself a bow anyway.
(https://i.imgur.com/dvzgFRY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FKD0pz4.jpg)

Travis,

That is one fine looking bow!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 21, 2021, 08:57:48 AM

Mike why not much snow?

This country is relativity low.  The  high point of the venture was about 7800'.  It snowed about 8 inches there last week but even as cold as it's been the sun melts it off on the south faces.  On the less sunny slopes there was quite a bit of snow hanging on.

On top of all that,  the lower slope of the east side of the divide is much dryer than the west side.  However,  our big snow months throughout the state are February,  March and April.   Sometimes may so it ain't over by a long shot.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2021, 09:15:52 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on February 21, 2021, 10:03:12 AM
Latitude makes a big difference. We have 71" of snow at 7800'
Thats pretty country you live in LC, looks like high desert.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2021, 10:06:39 AM
Latitude makes a big difference. We have 71" of snow at 7800'

Didn't happen wifout pichers:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 21, 2021, 11:29:19 AM
That riser is just perfect.
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Post by: Stagmitis on February 21, 2021, 01:36:34 PM
Yup the riser is awesome Travis! And the grip looks like it would be a shooter.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 21, 2021, 01:39:59 PM
 Painting and cleaning today...  Trying to get this stuff done so I can get the new tenant in...  Only got about two more days left, then I can concentrate on the swap bow...

  Buddy is coming over around 4pm to shoot some of my bows...  Have not shot in a while...  Hope I don't embarrass myself...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bob D on February 21, 2021, 03:09:46 PM
“We have 71" of snow at 7800'”

Flem, I hope you don’t live at 7800 ft.  :o
We had 46 inches on the ground by spring 2018 and and that bout kilt me.
 Not so bad this year, only bout 2 ft. But then we still got 2 months to go. :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on February 22, 2021, 11:02:34 AM
Nope, I live at 4000'. I was looking at Snotel data for that elevation. But we have more snow at 4000' than LC was seeing at 7000'. Looks to be similar terrain and flora. Ponderosa, Sage and Juniper. 
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 23, 2021, 09:06:30 AM
Tip overlays and square head 62x8 inch belt sander.



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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 09:18:08 AM
Bue that's one hell of a belt sander:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 23, 2021, 09:26:06 AM
Thanks for fixing pics again. This long cut sanding belt is good for sides of glass bows.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 09:28:51 AM
10-4 on pichers:)

That's ok you can keep the sanding belt:)

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2021, 10:10:59 AM
That is a pretty good idea on the Bench sander.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2021, 04:08:27 PM
This is no fun. I got my second Covid shot yesterday. Today I have fever and chills. I hear it's normal for some but     :dunno:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 04:11:38 PM
Hope you feel better soon, Mike.

We can't even get an appointment for our first shot.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on February 23, 2021, 04:34:13 PM
This is no fun. I got my second Covid shot yesterday. Today I have fever and chills. I hear it's normal for some but     :dunno:

My sister said the same thing. She said it lasted a day or so.  I cant even sign up to get in line here :banghead:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: skeaterbait on February 23, 2021, 04:50:48 PM
I'll be holding out for the long term side affects list before I get in line.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2021, 08:14:33 PM
Dude wif horny hat worry about side affects?  Hmmm... :biglaugh:

Good to see ya today!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
LOL
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Stagmitis on February 23, 2021, 09:38:39 PM
Im with Skeaterbait horny hat or not :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 12:33:06 AM
Wife and I were scheduled for second shot last Friday but we've been bumped three times for lack of vaccine due to weather conditions.  Supposed to be done tomorrow.  We'll see! :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 03:48:33 AM
Stic,which brand of vaccine did you get. Hope you are feeling better today.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: skeaterbait on February 24, 2021, 06:43:34 AM
Dude wif horny hat worry about side affects?  Hmmm... :biglaugh:

Good to see ya today!

You make a good point!!

Good to see you as well.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 06:45:58 AM
With all the high tech threads lately, I decided to build me a high tech takedown using them .025 thing ah ma jigs Kenny uses.....

Have the riser all machined out..

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Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 07:14:41 AM
Looking good. All you need now is a couple of Osage slats with holes.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 07:24:26 AM
Nah, gonna go wif carbon limbs...
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Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 07:30:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/JwuBGGM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 07:37:49 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 07:59:52 AM
Starting to shape tip overlays. 4 pieces of 1/16 inch thick linen micarta. A bit time consuming, must be perfect when finished. Otherwise it will stick out like a sore thumb.



Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 08:45:16 AM
It’s crooked at the tip bue :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
Nah, gonna go wif carbon limbs...

  Whaaaat..??  Stick Bow Man goes straight to carbon..?? 

Did you have one of them vaccinations??   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Someone told me Max is crooked at the tip. :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on February 24, 2021, 09:52:54 AM
Bue, he's crooked at both tips.   :readit:

I'll get my vaccination as soon as they let me and I'll take whichever one is offered. I don't think you get a choice.
Someone made the statement the other day that we have had an average of deaths from CoVid 1 every minute for a year now. Twice as many as Brazil which is the 2nd  highest death toll in the world.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on February 24, 2021, 09:53:39 AM
Nah, gonna go wif carbon limbs...

Unidirectional or woven?
 :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 09:55:38 AM
Unidirectional all the way baby..

G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...

LOL guys:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2021, 10:15:13 AM
Unidirectional all the way baby..

G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...

LOL guys:)

   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

     I'll race yah...    :goldtooth:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
Unidirectional all the way baby..

G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...

LOL guys:)

Gonna look funny with that carbon slathered all over that bamboo!   :o
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 11:30:24 AM
Bue, he's crooked at both tips.   :readit:

I'll get my vaccination as soon as they let me and I'll take whichever one is offered. I don't think you get a choice.
Someone made the statement the other day that we have had an average of deaths from CoVid 1 every minute for a year now. Twice as many as Brazil which is the 2nd  highest death toll in the world.

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 11:39:59 AM
Maxi-Boy is crooked at both ends and cracked on the top and in the middle half:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2021, 12:10:52 PM
Unidirectional all the way baby..

G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...

LOL guys:)

   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

     I'll race yah...    :goldtooth:

      :dunno:  Guess not...  :(
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2021, 12:23:39 PM
Shreddy- I'm gonna send him some half rotten Mongolian Tulip Wood , ya can't touch him with that stuff in it.... :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 01:25:34 PM
Sure Shreddy, Kenny sends me that wood and I'll be untouchable.... 

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Stagmitis on February 24, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
Hey Roy that looks like a martin panterra riser. I got one too and will probably never use it.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 03:30:14 PM
Ah Stag come on dude:)

Ya otta use it, I did.

(http://i.imgur.com/2Kh4fmX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/2Kh4fmX)


(http://i.imgur.com/UZ5o7Jp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UZ5o7Jp)

(http://i.imgur.com/qjL86U1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qjL86U1)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2021, 03:55:42 PM
You hi tech ol booger !! And here I thought ya was as pure as the driven snow (or sumpin like that)  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 03:58:32 PM
Hmmmm...  Is that rocker his shop furniture?  Where's the beer holder?
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Post by: Stagmitis on February 24, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
YUK Roy!!!!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 04:33:38 PM
Ah Stag that wasn't nice...

I made that rocker, Mike.

Hey Missouri Cupcake, nuff outta you boy:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2021, 04:55:33 PM
Roy, if you’re really making rockers like that I’ll have to drive down there and buy one from you.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 05:09:21 PM
Dave you are an artist and I have a piece you carved for me.

All ya need is fresh green saplings, soak them in hot water, then bend into the shape you want and anchor them somehow till they dry.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2021, 05:52:57 PM
I have always liked those bentwood chairs. If I ever find a new place, I’ll make one.
Dave.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2021, 05:54:09 PM
It was my pleasure to carve the wolf for you.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 07:36:57 PM
Thanks and we love it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 07:48:28 PM
Got  the second shot today.   Feeling kinda peculiar!.





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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 08:18:31 PM
OMG, my PC just gave me a bad virus alert:)
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Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 08:54:31 PM
This is what's under Longcruse picture :laughing:

"In times like these, it’s important to remember – there have always been times like these.”  Paul Harvey
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 09:00:10 PM
He's growing horns like skeaterbait has:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: skeaterbait on February 24, 2021, 09:01:28 PM
Ah dang Roy, he ain't got but one...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 09:04:40 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 24, 2021, 09:10:18 PM
Hope your second one treats you better than mine. Felt like crap the day after fever and chills
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 09:17:49 PM
Hope your second one treats you better than mine. Felt like crap the day after fever and chills

I hear people are sick 1 day stic, 2nd day much better???????????
My 2nd shot is March 4th :o
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 10:41:47 PM
Ah dang Roy, he ain't got but one...

Kin only use one at a time.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
Hope your second one treats you better than mine. Felt like crap the day after fever and chills
 

I'm wondering about that ever since I read your earlier comments.   The wife got her 2nd today also.  We'll see what tomorrow brings!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: 4 point on February 24, 2021, 11:13:07 PM
Finished up this one.
(https://i.imgur.com/vCQQ5LD.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 25, 2021, 03:20:49 AM
Nice bow and nice picture.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 04:35:05 AM
Very nice Travis
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on February 25, 2021, 07:01:56 AM
Using these Beiter things is helpfull when checking center line.



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Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2021, 08:30:37 AM
Turned out nice 4point :thumbsup:

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2021, 08:43:15 AM
Sweet bow Travis!  :thumbsup:

Bue, what are the thingies straddling the limb?   


I sprayed a bow yesterday, couple more coats today I hope..
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 08:58:12 AM
Those things are Beiter center line limb gauges.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2021, 09:09:20 AM
So are they made in different widths?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 09:10:03 AM
Adjustable for different limb widths.

3Rivers sells them
Ya got a PM .
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 25, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
I decided to go to the St Joe Cafe for lunch yesterday

I didn't see a dead deer going up but saw what looked like a monster doe on my way back. I stopped and it was a monster buck that had lost its antlers. It looked fresh but I couldn't tell for sure, it was going onto rigor which means it may have been there a few hours.

About that time my brother-in-law came by, I stopped him to see if he had seen the deer on his way to the barn, he hadn't but did say there was a van pulled off at the honkytonk across the street with whole front end mashed in that had been there since early this morning.

We discussed it and decided the deer had been there too long, it was so huge I couldn't have loaded in my Honda anyway although I keep a tarp in my car just in case I need to haul home a road kill. All that meat going to waste, at least 100lbs worth.

I looked up the onset of rigor and it said 5 or 6 hours for the main trunk, this deer's front shoulders were in rigor, it had been in the sun too long.

I hate to miss out on a good roadkill, here we can pick them up and take them home, no questions asked, no need to contact the DNR. Over the years I have picked up 3, two of which I saw get hit, one near my house wasn't on the side of the road when  went to town but was when I came back about 45 minutes later.

My last fresh roadkill, still steaming when I cut it up.


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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 09:59:24 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on February 25, 2021, 10:42:53 AM
All that meat going to waste, at least 100lbs worth.

I understand your sentiment on that, but the scavengers that will strip that carcass clean don't think the meat is going to waste.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on February 25, 2021, 10:59:33 AM
Good on you Eric! We can scavenge road kill here, just have to call FWP and leave a message.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on February 25, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
I have friends in Nebraska who are on lists to be called to salvage road kill.  Colorado seems to prohibit it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 11:57:09 AM
In Pa we need to notify game warden.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2021, 12:32:58 PM
I picked up a new tool today from HF I think will work for tip shaping and corner rounding and sight window work. 1/2x18 p-newmatic  :biglaugh: operated belt sander.
(https://i.imgur.com/NGWprT4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NEampBH.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 01:00:31 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Longcruise on February 25, 2021, 01:09:01 PM
Looks like it could double for fishing.   :)
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Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2021, 01:11:23 PM
Adjustable for different limb widths.

3Rivers sells them
Ya got a PM .

Ouch, shipping is more than half the cost of the item.
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Post by: Longcruise on February 25, 2021, 01:48:36 PM
Me, a power tool and limb tips.  Not a good combo.  :)
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2021, 07:38:03 PM
I always rough my tips on a spindle sander and have a lot of hand shaping afterwards . I think this tool will be more controllable  but will practice on some scrap first.  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: buddyb on February 25, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Mike, be sure to let us know how it works I thought about buying one before but passed.
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Post by: Walt Francis on February 25, 2021, 08:21:26 PM
I bought the electric HF 1x18 several years back, it has performed decent.  The HF belts don’t stay together, order some from TruGrit or Red Label and the increase in performance and durability is significant.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2021, 08:23:23 PM
I picked up a new tool today from HF I think will work for tip shaping and corner rounding and sight window work. 1/2x18 p-newmatic  :biglaugh: operated belt sander.
(https://i.imgur.com/NGWprT4.jpg)


I have one of those stic for metal work.
what grit sand paper are you going to use??

That thing is loud on full power
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2021, 08:41:45 PM
Don't know what grit yet. I played with it briefly today 60 may be too coarse.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2021, 08:46:26 PM
I would think 120 to 180
Mine has a platen bar behind the belt, maybe should take that out :dunno:
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Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2021, 11:22:13 PM
Stic, I have one of those. I tried it for roughing out shelves and I didn't care for it, I used 40 grit. I decided a farriers rasp was faster. They seem to go thru belts quickly.
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Post by: Buemaker on February 26, 2021, 05:10:29 AM
Coming along, some fine adjustment and I will shape handle.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
Nice job Bue on bow and picture:)
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2021, 07:33:03 AM
Stic, I have one of those. I tried it for roughing out shelves and I didn't care for it, I used 40 grit. I decided a farriers rasp was faster. They seem to go thru belts quickly.

And eat up air Quickly

Nice picture Bue :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 26, 2021, 07:50:34 AM
Actually the belly side of the tips was what I am hoping to shape with it. We will see.
Nice Bue and 4 point
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Post by: Shredd on February 26, 2021, 09:54:50 AM
Nice job Bue on bow and picture:)
 :thumbsup:

   Actually the bow looks crooked in the pic...   :goldtooth:

   Nice looking lines Bue...  How about one at full draw...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 09:56:43 AM
I think Ole Bue was standing lopsided when he took the picher:)
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Post by: Shredd on February 26, 2021, 10:50:42 AM
 :biglaugh:   What kinda hooch yah drink up there, Bue??
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
I think he uses a "special" sweetener in his coffee in the morning:)
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Post by: Buemaker on February 26, 2021, 04:43:05 PM
Full draw pic coming when I’m satisfied with it.
At least I must have my morning coffee with «special» sweetener first.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 05:30:12 PM
Well today I got the 8" round sander backing plate glued together and tapped.

Have a new motor under the bench and decided to make my own sander, got the arbor adapter the other day.

Made the wood adapter for under the bandsaw table to collect the dust, got to wait for the magnet glue up to dry..

Made a bow stringer for my victims swap bow.

And my manual miter saw was delivered, got a good one, purty nice.

Sent the miniature electric one back, it wasn't gonna do what I needed.

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Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2021, 06:15:53 PM
did not happen wif out pictures
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 06:28:11 PM
Waiting on Amazon to deliver the batteries.
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Post by: mmattockx on February 26, 2021, 07:58:56 PM
I think he uses a "special" sweetener in his coffee in the morning:)

Doesn't everyone use some whisky in their coffee to get the day started right?  :coffee: :bigsmyl:


did not happen wif out pictures

+1. Sounds like at least one or two build threads are required from that laundry list.


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on February 26, 2021, 10:22:37 PM
Roy...  Looks like you are gettin a lot of stuff done...  What's your bow stringer look like / how you making it??
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Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2021, 11:34:10 PM
Roy...  Looks like you are gettin a lot of stuff done...  What's your bow stringer look like / how you making it??

He did nt do none of dat stuff :tongue:
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Post by: flyonline on February 27, 2021, 03:25:36 AM
Ahhh schnitzel!

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Cause? I'm a bit surprised by the complete delam (so to speak) on the belly. There is a hint of a dark line running through the limb, kinda wondering if there was some weakness in the area that let it split parallel to the back/belly and then fold. I thought I heard a tink just before, but running my hands and eye over it completely I couldn't find anything.
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Post by: flyonline on February 27, 2021, 03:27:47 AM
This is the last draw pic I have of it @ 24", this folded at 25" on the bottom limb (left in pic).



Anyhoo, onwards and upwards  :laughing:  :banghead:
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Post by: williwaw on February 27, 2021, 04:42:51 AM
what is that dark spot above the cursor?  The break looks like a tension break, across the crown




was looking nice, is it osage? Stained on the back?, Almost looks toasted?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 05:50:07 AM
Damn that sucks.

Seems odd it broke at that dark spot, so I'm guessing there was a problem with the wood in that area.
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Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
Bummer, you had it bending good too
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Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2021, 09:27:25 AM
Yeah, that's too bad. The full draw pic looks good, especially the left limb.
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Post by: Flem on February 27, 2021, 09:45:54 AM
Fly, what did you do to make that Osage so dark? Looks toasted, especially where it exploded.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 10:49:44 AM
Pictures for Maxi-Boy and Shreddy...

Stringer made with deer hide and paracord.

There are several ways to make a stringer, this is only one of them.

I cut a piece of deer hide or any leather into a 3 inch diameter circle, then cut it in half. Then fold one piece over and punch 4 holes into the bottom flat edge. Then I weave the paracord through the holes and bring out about a 6 inch tag end. I tie both sections of the paracord into an overhand knot leaving about an inch space from the leather part. Then I punch 4 holes at the top and stitch that with sinew, that gives ya a little edge to grasp onto.







This is for the bandsaw, seen this on YouTube a while back.

Magnets counter sunk into the wood with glue, might not need the glue cause I had to tap them in with a hammer and block of wood. Slots cutout for the blade clearance. Cut down an end for my shop vac hose. There is a 1/2" deep void under the saw table that will leave a channel into the shop vac hose.



This last picture they look to be a different size, but they are identical in size. Looks different cause the piece with the hose attachment has it raised up 3 inches off the table.





Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 10:59:26 AM
Sander backing plate I made, bought the arbor for the motor.

Have a good new motor so decided to try a project.

It's not completed yet.

When done the bolt sticking out the right side is going to be counter sunk a 1/16th of an inch then ea40 to make the depression smooth.





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Post by: Flem on February 27, 2021, 11:06:52 AM
Boy oh boy, I thought I made a bunch of weird crap. Looks like I got company :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 11:09:04 AM
LOL yer not dah only mad scientist in here:)

Ya otta see some of Stickypops contraptions:)

And Kenny, just watch your fingers boy, don't wanna see comments from the peanut gallery:)

 :wavey: :laughing:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2021, 04:19:11 PM
you did not make that stringer :tongue:
nice work on the other stuff :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 05:18:53 PM
Sanding disc doesn't turn smooth enough, and they shorted me a set screw for the arbor and it's a sloppy fit. Dammit..

Might just buy me a new belt/disc sander, mine is 30 years old and no disc, but not sure if I wanna drop $300.00
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Post by: kennym on February 27, 2021, 05:36:28 PM
$300  ??  Why doncha get a nice one?   :biglaugh:

I'm looking at em too. My 30 year old 6" skil is about done.  Hate it too because the tables on newer ones don't seem to be super sturdy
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 05:38:22 PM
LOL, ya only get what ya pay for...
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 05:51:37 PM
LOL, ya only get what ya pay for...
Not necessarily, I once paid good money for a German made bandsaw. What junk. I can’t believe it was made in Germany. My Grizzly saw is 100 times better.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
True in a way.

I can get the shop fox 42" x 1" belt and 8" disc for $215.00 delivered...

Tempting....

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Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
Wow.. That does not sound right... The Germans are supposed to be the engineers...
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Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 06:45:37 PM
Thanks for the pics on the stringer, Roy...
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 06:47:18 PM
That’s what I thought. The table was made from an aluminum extrusion and had a twist. The guides were crap and the bottom guide support was made from a thin little pot metal casting that broke easily, and it would not cut a straight line.
I learned a lot from that saw. No matter what the maker’s reputation, always look closely at it.
Dave.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 06:48:33 PM
I have worked with some really nice Italian made woodworking machines.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 06:58:03 PM
Welcome Rich..
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Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 06:58:29 PM
  But I thought the Italians were known for their mason work, glass, pizza and make one hell of a wine...
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Post by: Longcruise on February 27, 2021, 07:03:08 PM
  But I thought the Italians were known for their mason work, glass, pizza and make one hell of a wine...

They combined the wine and pizza on a construction job and the building is about ready to fall over!  :scared:
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 07:04:01 PM
Good food, great cars, and they have some very good engineers.
Have you ever seen some of the boats they build?
Dave.
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Post by: Stagmitis on February 27, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
So today a dreamed about my new garage and visiting Shredd so I can shred... :laughing:
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Post by: Buemaker on February 27, 2021, 07:26:28 PM
Some very good widebelt thickness sanders and jointer planers are made in Italy. Do not forget Ferrari.
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Post by: kennym on February 27, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
Finished a bow











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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 07:30:14 PM
I have an ancient jointer/ mortiser/ tablesaw combination that was built in Italy. There’s no name plate on it and i removed the saw. What a solid machine.
Dave.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 07:31:30 PM
Nice bow! I like the woods.
Dave.
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Post by: kennym on February 27, 2021, 07:32:16 PM


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Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 07:35:54 PM
 Stag-mon, Bring It!!  :thumbsup:   8 minutes to the beach...
 
 But my shredding days are over...   :tongue:  Now I pour my passion into making bows and playing pool...
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Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Looks nice Kenny...
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Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2021, 08:23:32 PM
Nice kenny :thumbsup:
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Post by: flyonline on February 28, 2021, 01:57:38 AM
what is that dark spot above the cursor?  The break looks like a tension break, across the crown

was looking nice, is it osage? Stained on the back?, Almost looks toasted?

That's just a tiny piece of missing wood causing a shadow, the wood is not blemished in that spot as far as I can see, at least on the back. No stain or toasting done.

Flem

although I'm not 100% sure, I don't remember that I heated it at all and a quick check again makes me think that's still right. I believe I split the sister billets from a larger piece that had been sitting around for a few years, then roughed it out before another pause, which may(?) account for the darkened areas.

Gives me confidence going forward to do some more splicing though, as I have plenty of billets stashed away in pairs.

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Post by: Buemaker on February 28, 2021, 08:02:46 AM
Now I am satisfied. Even tiller at brace and mapping at 20 inches draw at end of fades and 17 and 22 inches from center the distance from string to limb is exactly the same on both limbs.
Full draw is at 28 inches.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2021, 08:04:12 AM
Bue, good job on the pictures:)

 :thumbsup: :laughing:

Very nice bend...

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Post by: kennym on February 28, 2021, 10:59:34 AM
Lookin good Mr Bue
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Post by: Shredd on February 28, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
  My kinda bow mr. Buemaker...   :thumbsup:  Always appreciated your limb lines...
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 28, 2021, 06:10:27 PM
So Bue do you take measurements at different pull in inches to check limb mapping.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 06:06:21 AM
Well I ordered this Shop Fox a few minutes ago, $260.00.

My belt sander is 30 years old and I removed the 6" disc years ago because it made the machine vibrate like crazy.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 06:10:33 AM
Anyone ever make up your own sanding belts?

I seen they sell the sanding belts in 50 foot rolls and you need something like a special tape to adhere the ends together?

May be cheaper in the long run if they hold together!

Or it could make ya tear your hair out?

But they gotta tape them together wherever they make them.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 01, 2021, 07:26:41 AM
Stic, I usually lay the bow on a long sheet of papers and draw lines along limbs at brace and at 20 inch draw and then flip the bow over to see if the lines corresponds. Also use a bowyers square like in the picture. Sometimes I do it at 28 inch draw also. But if measure are fine at brace and 20 inches I stop there.
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Post by: flntknp17 on March 01, 2021, 09:41:48 AM
I finished a bow that has been left in various states of work for over a year.  This one presented a number of troubles and was pretty finicky, but it shoots hard and is stable now.  Osage and bamboo, 62" and 53#@27".

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on March 01, 2021, 09:46:16 AM
Nice bow mr. 17, those limbs seem to bend perfect.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 09:50:28 AM
Very nice, Matt
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Post by: Shredd on March 01, 2021, 10:21:15 AM
Cool looking bow flnt...  Bet she has some zip to her...
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Post by: Flem on March 01, 2021, 10:46:40 AM
Anyone ever make up your own sanding belts?

I seen they sell the sanding belts in 50 foot rolls and you need something like a special tape to adhere the ends together?

May be cheaper in the long run if they hold together!

Or it could make ya tear your hair out?

But they gotta tape them together wherever they make them.

I thought about making my own, till I found out how inexpensive 2X72 belts are. I know you need a polyester or PTFE fiber reinforced tape with a thermosetting adhesive to splice.
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Post by: Shredd on March 01, 2021, 11:42:33 AM
Flem...  Do you have a link on where to get that tape??  I would like to repair belts that break on me...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 11:45:18 AM
Rich ya have a PM
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Post by: Mad Max on March 01, 2021, 03:54:58 PM
KennyM always comes threw :thumbsup:

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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 04:07:45 PM
WOW awesome stuff...
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Post by: Stagmitis on March 01, 2021, 06:02:32 PM
Bokotay!
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Post by: Buemaker on March 01, 2021, 06:06:20 PM
Holy smackers,that is some wood.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 01, 2021, 08:58:22 PM
Bokotay!

Yah us :bigsmyl:
Yes
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Post by: Flem on March 02, 2021, 12:04:07 PM
Flem...  Do you have a link on where to get that tape??  I would like to repair belts that break on me...
Rich ya have a PM

I'm guessing Roy hooked you up. Which would be good because I never bought the splicing tape.
I recall it was expensive, had a shelf life and you had to buy a lot of it. It might have needed to be stored in the freezer?? I think there were only a couple of manufactures, 3M and the other "I cant remember". Seemed to be a lot of folks selling the rebranded "I cant remember" tape.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 02, 2021, 12:19:59 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: 4 point on March 03, 2021, 08:31:59 PM
Got to try to scrub skunk out of my dog for the second time this week. This time it got both of us. Good times!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 03, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
Oh boy, had a bird dog that got it a few times..

Nothing worse than washing skunk piss off a dog.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 03, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Cleaned up the barn, couldn't  get to the bow room :tongue:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 04, 2021, 07:40:47 AM
I'm going to get that 2nd shot this morning  :o
I will keep you updated on how I feel :scared:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 07:47:04 AM
Wife and I had our first shot of Pfizer yesterday, zero side effects.

Get the second shot in 2 weeks.
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Post by: Pat B on March 04, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Getting my first tomorrow  :archer2:, wife got hers last Friday. She is scheduled for the second the end of March.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 04, 2021, 09:33:21 AM
I had a bad day after my second shot with fever and chills
. felt like the flu. The next day much better.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 04, 2021, 09:38:33 AM
I got the second shot Wednesday last week.   The first had zero effect.  The second had a little pain and swelling at the injection site that went away in three days.   Weird thing was on the second day after I was so tired I barely got off the sofa all day. Went to sleep at 7:30 pm and slept for 11 1/2 hours.  Been feeling normal ever since.   Go figger. :)
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 04, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
My second shot gave me a bit of a rough time the day after.  Got a little feverish, sensitive skin and slightly achy joints.  Those symptoms started off very light, built throughout the day, and were completely gone by the next morning when I woke up.  Of all of us that got it at work, only a few had the reaction to the second shot.  Guess I'm just lucky lol.
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Post by: buddyb on March 04, 2021, 10:18:15 AM
Wife and I got our first shots of Moderna, 2nd one March 31. My wife had a slight headache, I didn't have any side effects.
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Post by: kennym on March 04, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
Helped bro burn some more tall grass CRP , don't know how to post video tho...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
Helped bro burn some more tall grass CRP , don't know how to post video tho...

Send it to you tube, then copy URL and paste in text box.
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Post by: kennym on March 04, 2021, 05:16:04 PM
LOL I don’t have a utube account.

I did get the target my bro ordered for me put in the yard today.

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Post by: Buemaker on March 04, 2021, 05:23:48 PM
Shaping handle, doing a little each day.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 05:25:52 PM
Email the video to me then pork chop:)
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Post by: kennym on March 04, 2021, 05:32:26 PM
Text work , Possum poppa?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 05:47:51 PM
No on text.  check yer PM
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Post by: Mad Max on March 04, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
 :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:Possum :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: poppa
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Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 06:40:16 AM
I'm going to get that 2nd shot this morning  :o
I will keep you updated on how I feel :scared:

Feeling good this morning  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 06:53:35 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:05:41 AM
Yesterday in the shop..

Cut off the bad section of an Osage split, check out those growth rings:)



Sealed her back up.



Made a bandsaw blade guide cover out of oak.





Removed old sander and attached bigger table top for the new sander coming, it's a bit larger than my old sander.



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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:08:09 AM
And had company yesterday, they are 20 feet from the shop door.

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Also put 3rd coat of tung oil on swap bow, think one more coat should do it.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 05, 2021, 07:20:30 AM
You are real busy Roy, is it spring fever?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:25:59 AM
You are real busy Roy, is it spring fever?

It sure is, Bue.

23 degrees here right now, but going to be in the 60's this coming Tuesday and Wednesday:)
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Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 07:26:48 AM
Ifin you pore the corn 5' from the door they can watch you build them gwass bows :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:35:47 AM
They have been 5 feet from the door more than once.
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Post by: flntknp17 on March 05, 2021, 09:38:05 AM
Finished this 68" hickory and bamboo longbow earlier this week.  I don't typically make bows this long, but I needed something that my taller friends could shoot.  It is 55#@30" and tapers from 1.5" to 5/16" and has maintained 2" of reflex after tillering and breaking in.  Bamboo is dyed with leather dye.

Matt

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Very nice, Matt..
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Post by: Shredd on March 05, 2021, 10:37:10 AM
Nice looking bow...
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Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2021, 11:51:40 AM
Nice bow, nice bend, Matt.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2021, 12:29:45 PM
I did get my CoVid shot today. :archer2:    Get #2 on 4/6
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Post by: kennym on March 05, 2021, 08:12:19 PM
A guy called me and has some osage staves split and wanting to sell some. Construction near his home and they were taking them down so he asked if he could have them.  If anybody is interested, I'll get his fone number from shop and put it here...
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Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 08:33:39 PM
Waiting  :thumbsup:

Need some pictures of the rings :bigsmyl:
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Post by: kennym on March 05, 2021, 08:49:33 PM
I got no pics but will get his number for ya tomorrow

He said there are some really nice and some knarly
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Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 10:11:15 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 06, 2021, 04:14:16 PM
This guy is in Michigan if any of ya up there are looking for Osage...
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Post by: Shredd on March 07, 2021, 01:53:09 AM
Just wanna post a little treat for you guys and give you an idea how purty Sheoak can be... Sheoak is one of the main woods that I use in my bows and I harvest it here in Florida...  I posted one of his bows before... His name is Rob Nicoll of Flatline Bows from down-under...

   This to me looks like a select piece of Sheoak with a nice red color... I think there are about five different species... The deep red color could be coming from one of the species or possibly minerals in the ground... The grain can get very interesting depending on how you slice the wood... And it also has chatoyance where the grain can almost disappear when the piece of wood is shifted in the light...

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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2021, 04:04:00 AM
Rich that is awesome..
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Post by: Mad Max on March 07, 2021, 07:41:43 AM
Nice shredd , I had a osage stave from Pine Hollow bows , when you get a stave the sides and back are dark and when you chase a ring it's yellow , not this one, it stayed the same color (seasoned Osage color), I called Mike at PH bows and he said it's the minerals in the water where it grew .
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2021, 08:09:41 AM
Big Bob from Australia made me a bow in a bow swap a few years ago that has that Sheoak in the riser.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2021, 08:35:09 AM


Yes, installed a photo resize app into my cell phone.

Simple and easy to resize pictures.
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Post by: Stagmitis on March 07, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
Rich a while ago when I saw you were using Sheoak I googled it. Dang tree looks like a conifer from the outside but dang if it isnt a hardwood! I remember seeing those trees when I was in Fla but would have never thought it was what it is. I brought back some 6`logs of Loquat last year and when its dry I am going to incorporate it into a bow.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on March 07, 2021, 07:02:27 PM
  Down here we call it Australian Pine... Some call it iron wood because it is heavy...  It is a hardy tree and was bought here for wind breaks for the harsh nw to n cold winds, I guess to protect the crops such as orange trees... I like the term Aus. pine over Sheoak but I use Sheoak because I don't want people confusing it with conifer pine which is a lot softer wood...  If you look close at the needles they are segmented and not at all like real pine needles...
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Post by: Pat B on March 07, 2021, 10:37:30 PM
Australian pine makes good selfbows too.
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Post by: bow loving man on March 07, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
Took one off the form, first try with topless...and cleaned it up

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Post by: flyonline on March 08, 2021, 03:49:30 AM
At a guess that looks like Hairy Oak (from the related family Allocasuarina). Between the Casuarina and Allocasuarina families there's quite a few species - Wikipedia <cough> lists 77 species.

(http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/hairy%20oak/hairy%20oak%201%20end%20grain%20s25%20plh.jpg)

I believe the cones are also great for smoking food, and it makes good firewood. Never tried it myself, I've heard it mentioned but haven't seen a selfbow made of it either. Another one to add to the list.....
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 06:58:15 AM
Steve is that also called blood wood?
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Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 09:43:31 AM
Hey Roy, did you try out your new bandsaw dust port?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 10:11:09 AM
Yes the magnets were not strong enough to hold it in place very well, so back to the drawing board...

But it did keep way less dust out of the saw bottom.

Thinking about a 1.5 inch plastic pipe with a slot cut out just wide enough for the saw blade and say cut a hole on top just around the blade path, then hook the vac hose to the end of it.

My wheels are turning, LOL...
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Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 10:14:54 AM
Did you use rare earth magnets? Those suckers are strong as hell!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 10:16:08 AM
I don't know what they were, had 4 on each board, must not have been very strong ones.

I'll see if I can find those types.
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Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 10:19:06 AM
Neodymium magnets.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 10:19:20 AM
 :thumbsup: Thanks

Prolly otta use duct tape, LOL
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Post by: Shredd on March 08, 2021, 11:18:50 AM
At a guess that looks like Hairy Oak (from the related family Allocasuarina). Between the Casuarina and Allocasuarina families there's quite a few species - Wikipedia <cough> lists 77 species.

(http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/hairy%20oak/hairy%20oak%201%20end%20grain%20s25%20plh.jpg)

I believe the cones are also great for smoking food, and it makes good firewood. Never tried it myself, I've heard it mentioned but haven't seen a selfbow made of it either. Another one to add to the list.....


   Good guess... I asked and he said it was Hairy Oak... Yes, another species of Sheoak... 
I don't know about the seed pods but the wood is supposed to be the best cooking wood...  I researched it years ago and a couple of people said it is too brittle for a self bow...  But I might not go by that... You never know unless you try and one of those species might be good for a self bow...  You will have to let us know...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on March 08, 2021, 11:20:18 AM
Took one off the form, first try with topless...and cleaned it up



How'd you like the topless?
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Post by: bow loving man on March 08, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
Long, I liked it, I need to revise a few things if I am going to do it again. It worked well with the airhose. (note to self, make sure you have plenty of rope to tie it down before you start.) I will probably try it again after I modify the process some...For those wondering, I used 50# of air with paracord holding the airhose on and then cooked it for 4 hours. It was fine....
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
Topless otta be interesting?:)

Just sayen.......
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 04:25:30 PM
AM I A HERO? :saywhat:
This morning I had a key that needed to be put back on a nail on a tree next to the gate at the hunting club.
So I stopped by the gate on my way to the coffee shop and there was a cardboard box about 20' away from the gate with the top closed, so I went over there to collect my Million dollars found on the side of the road. When I was opening the box my mind said watch out, but I pulled back the top and 2 White Puppies in there (eye's still closed), so I grab them up in the box, Frost was on my windshield this morning but I don't know how cold it was.
I called a friend girl I know and took them to here. She was happy to help. They started moving around after 5 minutes in my truck on the way to her house.
Makes you feel good and P Oed at the same time.
Feeling good today :thumbsup:
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Post by: wood carver 2 on March 08, 2021, 04:36:52 PM
You’re a hero. 👍🏻
There’s a bunch of ways to get rid of unwanted pups. Abandoning isn’t one of them.
Dave.
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Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2021, 04:54:14 PM
Was there an address on the box?  Good for you, Mark. I don't understand people that abuse animals, and puppies no less.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 05:01:49 PM
Was there an address on the box?  Good for you, Mark. I don't understand people that abuse animals, and puppies no less.

Thanks pat I will find out if there is a address  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 05:34:14 PM
My friend found someone with a Momma dog with 1 week old pups to take care of the one's I found. :jumper:
The day keeps getting better.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on March 08, 2021, 05:36:55 PM
Good man, Mark...  Maybe the Man upstairs sees you with two dogs in your life...   :)

   Post some pics of them when if you can...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 05:39:46 PM
That pisses me off to no end.

I like to put who ever did it in a box out in the cold.

Yer a good man, Mark..

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on March 08, 2021, 05:41:21 PM
Very good Max, you are a HERO in my eyes. Makes me real angry when I hear of people who treat animals like that.
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Post by: Stagmitis on March 08, 2021, 06:02:06 PM
No question....HERO! :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 06:45:44 PM
Thanks guy's
My friend is doing all the work.
 :thumbsup:to her.

Now I'm going to want to look in every box I see on the roads.
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Post by: Bvas on March 08, 2021, 08:20:44 PM
Nicely done maxi.
You just moved up a spot on the pecking order as far as I am concerned.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 08:31:52 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: 4 point on March 08, 2021, 08:59:35 PM
You’re a good man Max! I’d like to have a discussion with the person that did that!
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 09:21:10 PM
You’re a good man Max! I’d like to have a discussion with the person that did that!

Me too.
No address on the box.
The Mama dog fell threw.

The pups are in the hands of a lady that bottle feeds lots of puppies until weaned.
And then they will go to a Society that's takes abandoned dogs and will place them to responsible homeowners.

My friend really came threw today and the dogs are in good hands. :thumbsup:

I know this is off topic for the forum, Hope Terry don't mind to much.
Thanks everybody ;)
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Post by: kennym on March 08, 2021, 09:25:57 PM
Excellent!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 09:28:24 PM
Terry would love what you did, Mark....
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 09:29:17 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 09:33:31 PM
Nothing like having dogs:)

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Post by: 4 point on March 08, 2021, 10:17:18 PM
For sure Roy!
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Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2021, 10:29:25 PM
This is the day we brought Rosie home from the shelter in Greenville. SC. She was 5 1/2 months old. Maggie was also a rescue. She's 2 1/2 here. And my wife Marcia. Rosie is now almost 3 and Maggie is 5. I won't say how old Marcia is.  :bigsmyl:   How does anyone live without dogs.  :dunno:
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 08, 2021, 10:52:34 PM
Great work Max! I hope whoever did that gets what's coming to them. 

Gotta love the best friends! This is Betty, our 1 year old French Bulldog.

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Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 11:15:34 PM
Thanks Max for being a good human :notworthy:  I always think I must be the nuttiest person around because of how much I love my furry friends, but I see I am in good company.

Shotgun Bert. Thats his seat and he knows it!
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 11:17:15 PM
Flem--Thats his seat and he knows it! :laughing:

I had a Doberman in the 80's from 6 weeks until 7 years, she had lymphoma and I had to put her down.
It liked to have killed me loosing her.
I can't do that again.

Meet Hilda
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Toped out at 65#
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Post by: mmattockx on March 08, 2021, 11:23:16 PM
I’d like to have a discussion with the person that did that!

+1. Anyone that would do that needs an attitude adjustment.


How does anyone live without dogs.  :dunno:

Indeed, they are some of the finest creatures on this planet. I had to put my last one down in December (that never gets any easier), will be getting a new one later this year or early next after our new house is built.


Mark
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Post by: zhangkeyang on March 09, 2021, 01:19:45 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: flyonline on March 09, 2021, 04:02:17 AM
Steve is that also called blood wood?

Not that I know of, but Hairy Oak grows in a different part of the country to me.

Go Max!

We lost our two dogs within a year a while ago, must admit I'm not missing the vet bills, finding them somewhere to stay when we go away, the dead chooks/snakes/birds, the 'landmines' and bat breath.

Do miss the licks and snuggles on a cold morning though. Our GSD turned a 3 dog night into a 1 dog night too!
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Post by: Flem on March 09, 2021, 08:32:16 AM
Hilda has a sweet face. I bet she was a real lover!  Dogs are like family and your best friend all in one
Looks like us goofy N. Americans aren't the only critter lovers :)
Thats one fine looking friend you have there Zhang.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2021, 09:30:58 AM
Thought I'd make Kenny a nice BBO bow since he just sent me an awesome longbow...

Found a nice piece of wood for the riser.

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Post by: kennym on March 09, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
That will be a sweet one buddy!  Will take some CA to seal the grain tho... :biglaugh:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 09, 2021, 09:56:43 AM
She was flem
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
Heck it ain't gonna be my bow so the heck wif sealing the grain:)
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Post by: kennym on March 09, 2021, 10:15:55 AM
Can hold her like a bowlin ball!!  :laughing:
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Post by: Longcruise on March 09, 2021, 10:26:14 AM
Yesterday was 13 days after our second shots.  The wife has been extremely careful for the past year.  We got our first haircuts since March 4th 2020. :)  I know,  could've home cut it but I was having too much fun with it.

Went to the gym for the first time in a year.  The wife went into a department store first time in a year.  Went to Costco first time in a year.

I'll say that the wife has not done well over this pandemic.   It has had a lot of negative impact on her.   Me, not so much.  I keep busy with hobbies,  hunting and just hitting the woods. 

Before and after.   :)

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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2021, 10:33:54 AM
Good deal with you and wife getting out.

Our second shot is this coming Sunday.

Looking forward to it, hope the reaction doesn't hit us too hard.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 09, 2021, 11:53:15 AM
We had hardly any reaction first shot but I had extreme fatigue with the second.   That was with Moderna.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 09, 2021, 11:58:25 AM
Had to change my avatar.   Folks were getting me and Skeater mixed up.  Besides,  this one looks more like me.  :)
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Post by: Mad Max on March 10, 2021, 08:15:51 AM
It does look more like you :laughing:
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Post by: Buemaker on March 10, 2021, 08:43:37 AM
I think Longcruise looks much younger in the blue T shirt, kind of hippie style.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 10, 2021, 08:47:44 AM
I think Longcruise looks much younger in the blue T shirt, kind of hippie style.

He has those dingle balls on his lamp shade in the back ground :bigsmyl:

Where is your Keep on Trucking poster
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Post by: Flem on March 10, 2021, 08:52:38 AM
Very distinguished, if disheveled look Longcruise, you look like a professor :saywhat:
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Post by: Longcruise on March 10, 2021, 09:14:16 AM
Very distinguished, if disheveled look Longcruise, you look like a professor :saywhat:

Yeah, yeah, that's it, like a professor........ yeah,  that's it! :)

Quote
poster
   ???‽‽‽   :dunno:
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Post by: Flem on March 10, 2021, 05:04:32 PM
Holy flashback ;). I used to have all those R. Crumb comics.
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Post by: onetone on March 10, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
Mr. Natural lives on!
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Post by: 4 point on March 10, 2021, 10:28:14 PM
Went from 70 Monday to dealing with this tonight. Only had 4 inches at my shop 10 miles from my house. When I got home I discovered I had a foot to deal with and it drifted.
(https://i.imgur.com/H5zEPcV.jpg)
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Post by: Buemaker on March 11, 2021, 02:12:40 AM
Yesterday we had no snow on the ground and today puh. Had to get the snow machine out 6 o’clock this morning so my wife could get to work. It is still coming down. I think I will fire up the wood stove and take a nap.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 04:12:42 AM
So much for springtime, LOL.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 05:15:07 PM
Have the new sander all ready to go, even got it dusty.

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Started another bow too.

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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 11, 2021, 06:19:30 PM
I would like that sander but don't need the disc.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 11, 2021, 07:08:20 PM
Roy the Machine, spitting them out :thumbsup:

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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 07:56:56 PM
Been a while and getting back into it..
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Post by: kennym on March 11, 2021, 08:41:21 PM
Nice Roy!!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 08:46:52 PM
Thanks Mr. McKenzie.
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 11, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Got 24" of snow last night.  Woke up to find a roof leak from this ridiculous ice dam above my deck.  Spent 3 hours digging the house out and then started cutting back drywall and  getting some heat trace up on that ice.  Been a fun day...
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Post by: Flem on March 11, 2021, 11:14:17 PM
Got 24" of snow last night.  Woke up to find a roof leak from this ridiculous ice dam above my deck.  Spent 3 hours digging the house out and then started cutting back drywall and  getting some heat trace up on that ice.  Been a fun day...

Powder day!


Nice sander Roy :thumbsup: Look to have a decent size motor.
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Post by: hunting badger on March 12, 2021, 02:07:04 AM
I like it Roy! Glad you're get back after it! I'm working on an ASL, it came out heavy so I'm dealing with that and finally got the sight window and handle roughed in, more work on it tomorrow!
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Post by: Stagmitis on March 12, 2021, 07:31:58 AM
Hey Roy whatcha specifically gonna use that belt sander for?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 07:46:52 AM
Risers and buffalo horn tip overlays.

Flem it's only 1/3 hp motor.
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Post by: kennym on March 12, 2021, 08:11:51 AM
Risers and buffalo horn tip overlays.

Flem it's only 1/3 hp motor.

Same motor as in your Yoter?  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
Hey lamb chop, don't make me come out there.....

 :laughing: :wavey:
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Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 09:25:10 AM
Doubt you will bog it down. Whats a Yoter?
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Post by: Pat B on March 12, 2021, 09:46:20 AM
Roy's toy yoter.  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: skeaterbait on March 12, 2021, 10:21:49 AM
Toy Yoda

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Post by: kennym on March 12, 2021, 10:46:29 AM
Lonnie, that's Rody, I was talkin bout his widdle truck... :laughing:
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Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 10:58:24 AM
Hell I should have known that, I have two Yota's
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 11:18:03 AM
Heh, we gots a Jeep too:)
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Post by: Longcruise on March 12, 2021, 12:20:51 PM
Heh, we gots a Jeep too:)

She gots a jeep. :biglaugh:
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Post by: Longcruise on March 12, 2021, 12:25:25 PM
We're supposed to get some snow so I stocked up at the grocery store.   The news has hyped it so much people are buying like it's a pandemic!    :)

Got fert on the lawn so the snow should soak it in.

Won't be doing much in the shop so I'm stitching leather.
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Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 12:29:20 PM
My "she" has a Jeep also. Just spend parts of 3 days chasing electrical gremlins on that #@$  &%#$ Jeep!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 12:57:32 PM
Ah ya had a short?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
Sho nuf. There is not much about that electrical system that I don't know now. :banghead:
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Post by: 4 point on March 12, 2021, 01:28:45 PM
Was it ground issue Flem?
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Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 02:34:52 PM
No the grounds were good, but I did add an extra to the alt. It was a bad connection coming out of the TIPM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 03:29:44 PM
Damn that controls the power to the whole vehicle...
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Post by: Flem on March 13, 2021, 09:25:02 AM
Damn that controls the power to the whole vehicle...

Dont I know it!


I actually purchased something I probably could have made. Hope I'm not getting too lazy to be cheap!
These little G10 rods are for handle pins, but I was thinking it might look cool doing some kind of mosaic  pattern for an arrow pass. I like inlays and such instead of leather. The colors don't not come thru well in pics, but it they look great sanded and moistened.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2021, 04:34:17 AM
Be cool with an inlay rest.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 14, 2021, 03:38:00 PM
What do you mean by "handle pins"?

It's a cold day in the shop.  Maybe make some bow stringers later.  Electricity just went out again for the 5th time.

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Oops electricity just came on and went out again!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2021, 06:13:57 PM
Mike how about a few pictures of how you make your stringers?
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Post by: Mad Max on March 14, 2021, 06:48:02 PM
Mike how about a few pictures of how you make your stringers?

x2
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
Mike how about a few pictures of how you make your stringers?

x2

X3
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Post by: Longcruise on March 14, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
Will do.  Sat down at the work table and two unfinished projects put the guilt on me so I worked on those instead.   Tomorrow when the snow is dealt with I'll make some and take some pictures also.

Snow is still coming down!  :o

Probably more than my anemic little snow blower can handle.  :)
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Post by: Flem on March 14, 2021, 11:18:34 PM
60deg here in the northern Rockies :cheesy:

Knife handle pins.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 06:29:30 AM
I am using the Bjorn glassfiber and had a strip that I peeled off a bowlimb. Thought I would see how much bend it could take without any damage. The diameter on this bend is about 2 inches. After it springs back to completely straight.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 06:31:22 AM
Looks like ya have a hinge there, Bue:)
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Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 06:45:48 AM
 :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 09:36:29 AM
Was 26 degrees here this morning...

Growing weary of cold temps...
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Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 09:40:46 AM
How thick is that Bue?
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Post by: Flem on March 15, 2021, 10:41:51 AM
I would like to examine that glass under my microscope. Curious if the resin has distorted?
Did you check it out for damage Bue?
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Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Max, the glass is .035 thick.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 11:24:50 AM
.035
.oo35 is a hair bue :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 12:33:29 PM
Put yer specs on Maxi-Boy:)
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Post by: mmattockx on March 15, 2021, 12:45:24 PM
I am using the Bjorn glassfiber and had a strip that I peeled off a bowlimb. Thought I would see how much bend it could take without any damage. The diameter on this bend is about 2 inches. After it springs back to completely straight.

Max, the glass is .035 thick.

As severe as that looks, that only works out to 1.75% strain which is well below the limits for glass lams.


Mark
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Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 02:14:34 PM
Put yer specs on Maxi-Boy:)

You can change text and Pictures Roy
But I got your number  :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
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Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 04:21:57 PM
Flem, I do not have a microscope, but looking at it through a magnifying glass I cannot se any damage.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 05:38:16 PM
I never gave you my number....

 :jumper: :tongue:
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Post by: Buemaker on March 16, 2021, 04:45:43 AM
Testing by turning IPad around, got some wood organized. I tend to spread it all over and saving all kinds of small cut offs. Got some kindlings now.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 06:39:20 AM
Good job, Bue:)
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Post by: Flem on March 16, 2021, 08:25:21 AM
Good to be organized :thumbsup: I understand the concept, not so much the execution.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 08:30:49 AM
LOL Flem

I let the shop go for so long till it starts bothering me, then clean up a bit...
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Post by: Mad Max on March 16, 2021, 08:48:53 AM
The end of the bow prosses
(https://i.imgur.com/6JwJFO3.jpg)

Before starting a new bow
(https://i.imgur.com/pst2pjL.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 08:51:41 AM
LOL

Yupper:)

 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on March 16, 2021, 09:20:14 AM
It is not my fault things get messy, I suspect that during night some small « helpers» enjoy themselves messing things up.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 04:31:32 PM
Today..

Tried out the new bow stringer, works fantastic.....

Shot the swap bow.

Cut out a bow pattern from a piece of boo.

Did preventive maintenance on the drum sander.

Got the dust collector modification for the bandsaw up and running, works pretty darn well sucking up the dust....

Workbench looks like Maxi-Boys...

Time for dinner:)
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Post by: Mad Max on March 16, 2021, 04:37:27 PM
 :laughing:
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Post by: Flem on March 16, 2021, 05:01:55 PM
Roy, you got to lower the bar or start lying. I beginning to feel like a slacker :coffee:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 05:59:43 PM
Flem, I was lying up there:)
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Post by: Flem on March 17, 2021, 11:29:22 AM
Ya sure. Damn septuagenarian overachievers :bigsmyl:
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Post by: kennym on March 17, 2021, 12:59:27 PM
Umm , either punched wrong number on keypad or my sander messed up ...

Made me remake my .002 sled ...   :knothead:








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Post by: knuklhed on March 17, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
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Got the dust collector modification for the bandsaw up and running, works pretty darn well sucking up the dust....

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Pichers????? I'd like to see what you came up with.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 17, 2021, 01:40:12 PM
Some fletching tonite. Using a color I have not used before.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 17, 2021, 02:20:34 PM
Bue has all the cool toys :thumbsup:

KennyM did you mess up your sanding belt?
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Post by: Shredd on March 17, 2021, 03:01:24 PM
  Ohhhhh Chit....   Sorry there buddy....  I am sure you have a master sled...
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Post by: Mad Max on March 17, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
  Ohhhhh Chit....   Sorry there buddy....  I am sure you have a master sled...

He don't have no master sled, he IS the master sled maker :goldtooth:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 06:15:19 PM
Knuklhed











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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 06:23:04 PM
Do a search on YouTube for bandsaw dust collection, there are a lot of them there.

I seen one that used a 6 inch long piece of 1.5" plastic pipe that should really work well.

I might try that later on but this works so good it's fine now.
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Post by: kennym on March 17, 2021, 06:39:48 PM
No, didn't hurt the belt, it was brand new and didn't burn, just hogged the lams off then the sled.

That .002 sled was pretty thick anyway and just cleaned it back up with the CNCed  aluminum master sled.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 07:47:55 PM
Nice arrows Bue.
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Post by: Shredd on March 17, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
Told yah he had a master sled...  He's no dummy...     :)

  WoW Roy...  Aint you Mr. Tricky??   :thumbsup:
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Post by: kennym on March 17, 2021, 08:00:59 PM
Told yah he had a master sled...  He's no dummy...     :)

  WoW Roy...  Aint you Mr. Tricky??   :thumbsup:

gOT A MASTER SLED ANYWAYS...  :laughing:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 17, 2021, 09:57:23 PM
Told yah he had a master sled...  He's no dummy...     :)

  WoW Roy...  Aint you Mr. Tricky??   :thumbsup:

 :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 04:00:17 AM
 :biglaugh:
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Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 08:52:47 AM
 :wavey: Kenny when you kick-off can I have you master sleds??   :laughing:
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Post by: Flem on March 18, 2021, 09:30:32 AM
I get my vaccine today! Hope they give me a lolly-pop :bigsmyl:
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Post by: kennym on March 18, 2021, 09:54:46 AM
:wavey: Kenny when you kick-off can I have you master sleds??   :laughing:

When that happens , they may be up for sale...  :biglaugh:  :wavey:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 10:02:17 AM
If you sell that spalted hackberry, all yer stuff may be up for sale sooner than ya thunk:)

 :laughing:
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Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2021, 10:08:59 AM
Finally warmed up so much that I can use this dust making devil outdoors.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
That thing work pretty well, Bue?

Is that a sand paper tube and it's replaceable I assume?
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Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2021, 11:21:08 AM
Roy, it works very well. It is a pneumatic drum with replaceable sandpaper tube. I have this small one in the pic and a larger one. They makes a lot of dust though so I like to use them outdoors. I bought them from Grizzly.
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Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 11:36:36 AM
I got one...  Works great...  Used it yesterday... Yes you can replace the tubes...

  Kenny...  Whatcha gonna do with all that money??  Take it with you??    :laughing:

   Quick story...
         I probably mentioned my buddy passed on about 9 months ago...  I go and visit him a day or two before he passed...  6 months before he said that he had some calipers that I can have...  Mine were acting up...  He used to be a machinist...  I asked him if I can have those calipers?? He said yes, go out in the tool box and get them...  I came back with the calipers and a 2 inch micrometer...  I said can I have this too??  He said, are you kidding me?? That cost me $300...  I was like, ok...  :dunno: I am not gonna argue with a dying man...   I knew he wasn't right in the head...  I still laugh at that to this day...  I know wherever he is he is probably laughing at it too...   :laughing:   

    Love Yah, Gary....  Hope you are in a good place....
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 18, 2021, 12:14:02 PM
Flem you get a lolipop I am complaining. Been twice and did not get any.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 02:27:27 PM
Sorry Rich...

I lost my best friend John, about 6 years ago, we were brothers in the truest meaning of the word.

The sander Bue, I did see that on Grizzly site, might have to order one....

Looks like the sanding drums are $8.00 each, damn,,,
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Post by: wood carver 2 on March 18, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Roy, look around at different sandpaper suppliers and you might find the replacement sanding drums at a better price. I doubt that the ones Grizzly sells are a unique size.
Dave.
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Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 05:04:30 PM
 Thanks Roy...  Sorry about your friend also... Here is a link to some sanding sleeves...

  https://www.amazon.com/Woodstock-D4623-Sanding-Sleeve-Grit/dp/B01K4JSZQC/ref=pd_bxgy_2/144-6103160-0798620?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01K4JSZ8K&pd_rd_r=b35fe609-e9a5-47c2-a0aa-1b0c19072cdb&pd_rd_w=53xLT&pd_rd_wg=HnqQF&pf_rd_p=f325d01c-4658-4593-be83-3e12ca663f0e&pf_rd_r=95E2KZJ7KA4NJ51CCETN&refRID=95E2KZJ7KA4NJ51CCETN&th=1
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Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Shop-Fox-D4595-Hand-Held-Pneumatic/dp/B017ZE6DMW/ref=asc_df_B017ZE6DM2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312003160272&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5635072890778561577&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9013332&hvtargid=pla-571685204537&th=1
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 05:31:53 PM
That price looks a lot better, thanks.

Supergrit sells them even cheaper.

$10.00 for 5 of them.
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Post by: kennym on March 18, 2021, 07:38:33 PM
Shreddy ... I measure wealth in arrows . Right now I’m pretty poor...  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 18, 2021, 08:17:23 PM
I got one too shredd
Roy, I remember now that you said it, I got my sleeves at super grit.
I try to get all my belts from them :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
I get all my sandpaper there.
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Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 09:09:42 PM
Shreddy ... I measure wealth in arrows . Right now I’m pretty poor...  :biglaugh:

  Damn Bro...  I had no idea...  You should have said something...  I got a bunch of broken and bent ones I can send you...    :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on March 18, 2021, 09:56:03 PM
Heck I got lots of those !  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 08:13:47 AM
What's the problem, can't ya hit the target?:)

 :wavey:
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Post by: Longcruise on March 19, 2021, 10:09:29 AM
Shreddy ... I measure wealth in arrows . Right now I’m pretty poor...  :biglaugh:

Does that mean I can pay for my next order with arrows?¿?   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 11:55:39 AM
Someone is getting a bow today:)
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Post by: williwaw on March 19, 2021, 12:51:09 PM
Finally warmed up so much that I can use this dust making devil outdoors.

Nice setup for taking the sanding outside.  Is the snow melting at your place? off the target yet? 
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Post by: Buemaker on March 19, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
Snow is melting and it is warming up. A bit early to set up the target outside though. :)
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 19, 2021, 01:17:30 PM
Ain't here yet Roy  :archer2:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 01:28:29 PM
Sorry Mike, maybe they got the wrong addy..
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 02:22:00 PM
Hey Mike, check your front porch:)
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Post by: kennym on March 19, 2021, 04:58:13 PM
Hey, its from hitting other arrows and bending or robining them... :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 05:44:18 PM
Didn't happen wifout pichers:)
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Post by: kennym on March 19, 2021, 09:00:44 PM
I’d hafta video the shot cuz it dizentragetez them ... :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:38:09 AM
I'sah gonna hafta to look that word up:)
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Post by: Flem on March 20, 2021, 08:41:38 AM
I think that word is Polish for one who flings dog poo with a leaf rake.
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Post by: Shredd on March 20, 2021, 11:53:32 AM
Ok Boys...  Time for a new adventure...  I was thinking about making a heavy wood, long riser, take down bow for for target shooting and 3D competitions...  Any advice or tips on the matter will be greatly appreciated...  Might even wonder over to the other side of this forum, something which I hardly ever do, to get advice from some of the shooters over there...  Can any of you suggest which category of the forum that I should go to...  Also will probably do a thread on it also....
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Post by: Mad Max on March 20, 2021, 01:26:28 PM
I THINK this one is a little slow but good Info.
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?board=5.0

Pow Wow
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?board=2.0
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 04:08:24 PM
Glued up another trilam today, put a tad more deflex into this one than I did Sticky-pops swap bow.

Added a little more reflex also.

Not sure if that was a good idea or not, yet:)

Was looking at it and a thought crossed my mind, be careful Mr. Kennedy:)

Was thinking about you guys making those forward handle bows and thought if this extra deflex accomplishes the same concept?

Can't wait to pull this one out of the form.....

Anyways here she is:











https://youtu.be/9-ajdJgU7Oo

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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 04:18:51 PM
Hey Shreddy, go for it son.

Speaking of forward handles, anyone seen "Forward Handle", AKA Rich I think is his name?

He has not posted in a long time, hope all is ok with him.
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 20, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Was looking at it and a thought crossed my mind, be careful Mr. Kennedy:)

I thought I saw smoke rising from the East!   :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 05:04:13 PM
Smarty pants.

LOL
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 20, 2021, 05:15:59 PM
Hey, you never said I had to watch out haha
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Post by: Flem on March 20, 2021, 06:15:55 PM
How the hell do you lift that thing Roy? It looks like it weighs 50#!! and its awkward :dunno:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:18:04 PM
More like 80# and the wife helps me put it in the drying box.
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Post by: Flem on March 20, 2021, 06:21:53 PM
I figured 50# was conservative looking at the beast.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:28:34 PM
I have done it myself, maybe that's why my back hurts:)

 :knothead:
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Post by: kennym on March 20, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
How the hell do you lift that thing Roy? It looks like it weighs 50#!! and its awkward :dunno:


Chris one hands it for him, right Rody?  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:45:02 PM
She gotta use both hands.
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Post by: OldRawhide42 on March 20, 2021, 06:50:40 PM
Shredd I have been thinking about the same thing. I will most likely not get to it before the end of summer. If I do I will let you know what I did.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 20, 2021, 08:03:55 PM
Both hands    :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: 4 point on March 20, 2021, 09:56:51 PM
Built a new form for a new bow design I started working on last winter. Hopefully gonna be a static tip recurve that I plan on making work with longbow limbs as well. I'm hoping the hook isn't to sharp for the lams to bend into.
 (https://i.imgur.com/FajCvrj.jpg)
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Post by: Mad Max on March 20, 2021, 10:15:47 PM
what is the radius 4 point?

4-1/2" radius :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/E1f34iz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SpJL3cD.jpg)
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Post by: 4 point on March 20, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
Max, I didn't calculate out the radius. It looks a little sharper than yours. Could be that mine has more reflex to them. I'll find out tomorrow, gonna try gluing one up. How much lam taper are you using in yours? Do you profile taper your limbs much?
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Post by: Shredd on March 20, 2021, 10:59:09 PM
4Point...  Good luck on your bow build...

 Sounds good Ol' Rawhide... We'll compare notes... 

Tanks Max...
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Post by: Buemaker on March 21, 2021, 08:11:39 AM
Getting ready for some speed testing. Lining up square head shooting machine and two chronographs set up in a tandem confuguration. Hope nobody comes through the door.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 08:17:08 AM
Nice setup, Bue.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 21, 2021, 08:25:24 AM
Indoor lightning on.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 21, 2021, 08:54:05 AM
4 point .002-----just a normal width taper for recurves.
I use a 2" radius for static's but it will open up a tiny bit.

Nice setup Bue
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:00:58 PM
Took the bow out of the form today.

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Post by: Buemaker on March 21, 2021, 06:23:43 PM
Looking good Roy. Did you place the blocks who make deflex closer to the riser on this one?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:30:44 PM
Yes I did, on the swap bow they were 11.5" from bow center on this one they are 11" from bow center.
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Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 06:32:45 PM
I got some glass when yer ready, grasshopper... :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:36:39 PM
How much ya got there lamb chop?
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Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 06:40:43 PM
More than you want ... :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
Ya gots any pink left?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
No , an unnamed feller bought the last of it for next years swap ...
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Post by: 4 point on March 21, 2021, 08:30:30 PM
First limb off the new form. She's got some hooks! My plan was for it to be almost straight thru the mid limb at brace. We'll see  how close I get.
(https://i.imgur.com/nsWH2Hb.jpg)
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Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 08:41:10 PM
Damn... You got all kinds of hook there...  Looking forward to see what she looks like...

   My buddy is just getting into archery...  He found some big ol fields with those big ol round hay bales on it...  Recipe for fun....  I tried my hand at some flight shooting today and got then arrows to go about 280 yds...  I was like damn, holy chit, what the hell...  I had no idea that they were gonna go that far... And I still can't believe it...
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Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 08:51:50 PM
Here is something that some of you might find interesting...  Pic is right after release...  Taken at the field today...  Click on pic and you get a better view...
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Post by: Longcruise on March 21, 2021, 09:11:03 PM
Did it break all the way?  Looks like it let go at the nock point.
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Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 09:13:54 PM
Did it break all the way?  Looks like it let go at the nock point.

  It did not break... It's kind of a double exposure...
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Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 09:19:27 PM
I was wondering how it did that! That’s the string after the shot up front ?
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Post by: Mad Max on March 21, 2021, 09:21:17 PM
He told you guy's he made fast bows :o
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Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 09:41:03 PM
I was wondering how it did that! That’s the string after the shot up front ?

   I guess...   lol...   Would love to see a slow-mo of the whole shot cycle...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 05:42:32 AM
Looks like a Foster Grant sunglass poster:)

That is weird for sure, the string I mean:)

My old 42# Bear takedown launches a light flight arrow at least 300 yards...
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Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 07:31:12 AM
My Ifone has a slo mo vid option, but don't know if it's slow enuff to catch that!
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Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 08:00:40 AM
Looks like a Foster Grant sunglass poster:)

That is weird for sure, the string I mean:)

My old 42# Bear takedown launches a light flight arrow at least 300 yards...

   I have seen a slow-mo video before... The string definitely does some oscillating...

 It's amazing, isn't it??  Never thought about how far they can shoot...  :o This bow is 39# to 40# shooting a 410 gr. arrow... Next time I am gonna mark it off and get an accurate measurement...
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Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 08:03:09 AM
Check this out... There are some better ones out there also...

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwbc7yBwDBs
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Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 08:18:02 AM
I’ve seen some of those too, but never in a still photo!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 08:23:53 AM
We have trad archery golf shoots up here and a some of the targets are 600 to 800 yards away.

The first shot to a target, the bow has to be held at a 45 degree angle, the rest of the shots are however you want.

I made up some flight arrows with only two 2 inch long feathers on it to guide it.

I tried aluminum, carbon, and wood to get the lightest arrow and put a 50 grain little target tip on them.

The wood arrow weighed the least, I'd have bet on aluminum to be the lightest.

The total arrow weight was about 300 grains for the wooden arrow.

My 42# bear takedown was hanging right in there with 60 to 65 pound bows, I never would have thought that?

Brings me back to what I said a few weeks ago about a longer riser and shorter limbs is a pretty fast combination...
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Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 08:41:42 AM
  600 to 800 yards!!  WoW..!!  And I Thought 280 was far...

  Kenny... I think I read about this before... I believe the digital camera does some kind of sweeping motion to take the pic and if you can beat it to the punch you can get multiple images in one photo...
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Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 08:48:12 AM
What gets me is the shot is clear and the string part is fuzzy .  I can see the string being fuzzy but the other part should be too.  Back to my cave now... :biglaugh:
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Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 09:13:43 AM
  Don't overthink it....    :laughing:   Is what it is...   :dunno:   Kinda cool though... :saywhat:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2021, 09:14:32 AM
AVCase posted this from last years shoot
In contrast to the failure with the Field bow limbs, the footbow limbs I built this year turned out to be the best performing and most durable that I have made up to this point.  Of the arrows found, every cleanly shot arrow exceeded a mile. The biggest issue was finding the arrows.  At the Smith Creek dry lake, the longest drawn arrows disappeared into an area of hummocks covered with vegetation that we didn’t realize was there. At the Bonneville Salt Flats, the longest drawn shots just couldn’t be found.  I lost so many arrows. The longest verified shot was just over 1,986 yards plus 1-foot.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 09:20:11 AM
WOW..............
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Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 09:46:24 AM
 :o   :o   Double WoW..!!!
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Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 10:29:17 AM
Now if we can get someone to dry fire one on slo mo....  :biglaugh:
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Post by: mmattockx on March 22, 2021, 10:30:19 AM
I still find shooting an arrow well over a mile to be a mind boggling achievement. The arrows Alan uses for that are ~10" long, made with skinny solid carbon fibre shafts, use razor blades for fletching and have a machined stainless steel nock. They look much more like darts than arrows. The bow draws something like 250# and they use a big shelf to overdraw the arrow to somewhere over a 20" draw length.


Mark
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Post by: Flem on March 22, 2021, 11:06:38 AM
Well thats definitely impressive, but can he hit anything with that set-up? What does the target they shoot at look like? :campfire:

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Post by: B-JS on March 22, 2021, 03:04:33 PM
I got backpain today.
Had to string a 60" hybrid longbow with 105# without a Stringer.
10mm (0.4") Stack with 1,3mm (0.05") Glass.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 22, 2021, 04:08:17 PM
I'd have trouble with that using a stringer.   :o
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Post by: Buemaker on March 22, 2021, 04:09:52 PM
 :scared:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
No target Flem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRWvY8PUPwk
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 04:54:02 PM
Man that could hurt:)

Converted my 4" metal bench vice over to a 6" x 3" wooden block vice padded with rubber....

Glued the riser on the bow today.



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Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2021, 06:33:19 PM
Where is the vice :dunno:

Lookin good roy
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 06:36:34 PM
On the work bench...
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Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 08:40:15 PM
Rody, you put jast a little more hook on there and she will be a Corvette !   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 09:01:22 PM
Its gonna do 175 fps now wif a 10gpi arrah.

I had to slow them down cause the feathers were burning off b4 the arrow got to the target
and I was missing high...

And its a longbow not one of dem recurve thingahmajigs....

But I'll try more hook on next one just cause I wanna smoke the pants off ole Shreddys bows.

Plus this one is headed out west for a guy who never shot a stickbow, yet.

So he doesn't need the speed demon rody special,  yet...
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Post by: mmattockx on March 22, 2021, 09:42:37 PM
I'd have trouble with that using a stringer.   :o

+1, that is a stout bow.


Mark
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Post by: Flem on March 22, 2021, 10:32:34 PM
I think that could be called a bionic crossbow :saywhat:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 23, 2021, 12:25:19 PM
Here ya go Maxi..

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Post by: Shredd on March 23, 2021, 02:34:41 PM
  175...  Thats faster than a lot of glass bows out there...  Just goes to show you what a good design can do...  Good job Royster... :thumbsup:  But she aint done yet...   :)

   If your gonna catch me you better be shootin that bow out of that corvette that Kenny mentioned doing a buck 20...  :laughing:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 23, 2021, 04:20:22 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 23, 2021, 05:19:37 PM
Got the bow cut out today.

Needs cleaned up yet.





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Post by: Bvas on March 23, 2021, 07:49:16 PM
Dang Roy. Glad to see you get a fire lit under your buttocks.

Or did Chris just get tired of your grumpy butt and vanquish you to the shop.

Either way, nice job.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 23, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
Thanks Brad

Been a long time since I was serious about making bows.

Chris with her cancer, then my back, then the virus and riots, then the depression all that crap sent me into.

Then the guys talked me into the swap and I knew I had to do better for the swap bow.

And it turned out so nice and a month ago, a buddy with 60 acres in Ohio who supplies me with Osage logs, asked me to make one for a friend of his out west. What could I say to my Osage supplier? LOL

And seeing all the awesome risers the glass bow guys in here make, got me thinking about making nicer risers, and the light came on:)

So been spending more time in the shop the past 2 months, thinking how I can do better.

And icing on the cake, I decided it was time to get rid of the belly fat, so I've lost 19 pounds the past 2 months.....
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Post by: 4 point on March 23, 2021, 09:30:05 PM
That is gonna be sharp Roy!
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Post by: 4 point on March 23, 2021, 09:35:33 PM
Got the limbs bolted on and they look straight. I'm curious what it'll look like strung.
(https://i.imgur.com/AlXKn33.jpg)
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Post by: kennym on March 23, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: hunting badger on March 23, 2021, 11:51:25 PM
Roy, Great Job on the weight loss!! It's a battle my hats off to you!! I cut lams for my grandkids bows I"m building them, got the risers done yesterday! I built a !" form so I could build 1" longbows for them, I can't get too fancy or I can't keep up, they grow way to fast and out grow bows quickly!! When you have 17 grandkids and one on the way its hard to keep up!!
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Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 03:58:39 AM
Roy, good job on the belly fat and bow looks good,
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Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 04:01:03 AM
4 point, get a string on that baby, looks good so far.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 04:40:44 AM
Thanks guys.

Wholly crap Ken, got 13 here.

Travis that is wild..
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Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
Glued up a riser section. Australien Jarrah with a Lignostone I beam. Jarrah has a nice blue-red color.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 11:12:26 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Flem on March 24, 2021, 11:47:25 AM
I've been trying to figure out how to use different fruit woods for risers. We don't have much in the way of hardwoods around here and I really like the challenge of using collected/harvested/salvaged materials.
Anyone who has done woodworking with fruitwood knows they can be brittle, have irregular/bad grain and a lot of them check like crazy!
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I have a bunch of this Apricot wood. The color and grain are really beautiful, but getting a usable uncracked
piece is impossible. So I decided to see if I could fill the cracks enough to have a usable chunk.
The usual process is like stabilizing wood, but I did want to soak the piece in epoxy. I poured a low viscosity epoxy (System Three Clearcoat) over the cracked area and threw it into a vacuum bag and lowered the vac pressure to 10Hg, which is less than half of what I am able to pull at my elevation.

I was really amazed at the amount of penetration in this Apple test piece. The tiny radial cracks at the bottom of the the V are almost imperceptible without magnification, but they filled with epoxy!
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Now I just have to figure out the color of the fill so it does not look like crap!
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Post by: skeaterbait on March 24, 2021, 12:39:06 PM
But they sure make for nice pulled pork and brisket.
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Post by: williwaw on March 24, 2021, 01:03:58 PM

The usual process is like stabilizing wood, but I did want to soak the piece in epoxy. I poured a low viscosity epoxy (System Three Clearcoat) over the cracked area and threw it into a vacuum bag and lowered the vac pressure to 10Hg, which is less than half of what I am able to pull at my elevation.

I was really amazed at the amount of penetration in this Apple test piece. The tiny radial cracks at the bottom of the the V are almost imperceptible without magnification, but they filled with epoxy!


cool experimemt.  how much did it penetrate and how long was the piece?
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Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 03:26:23 PM
I am going camping.
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Post by: Flem on March 24, 2021, 04:07:49 PM


"cool experimemt.  how much did it penetrate and how long was the piece?"


It's a 1 1/2" dia. Maybe 6" of crack. The piece was a natural fork and after the epoxy it was stout enough to become a slingshot.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 04:21:06 PM
Just got back from getting our second vaccine shots.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 24, 2021, 05:18:57 PM
What are you doing bue?
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Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 06:12:10 PM
Max, I did not want to warm up the large heatbox just to cure one riser, so I made a small tent from a wool blanket.
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Post by: Mad Max on March 24, 2021, 07:52:16 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on March 24, 2021, 07:55:37 PM
Be prepared to take tomorrow off, Roy. I've heard a few folks say the day after the 2nd was bad but it was gone by the next day. I also heard the worse the reaction the stronger your immune system is.
 My wife gets her 2nd on Friday, mine on the 6th of April, the next Friday.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 08:10:17 PM
Well my immune system is a wreck after the IPE reaction.

But yes I've heard about the 2nd shot difficulty.

But I'm fine with that.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 25, 2021, 05:27:27 AM
Jarrah riser block with Lignostone I beam. Should be a stiff one.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 25, 2021, 05:36:08 AM
I am getting my first shot on March 30. I’m ready. The people above 75 and people in nursing homes came first.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 06:44:43 AM
One heck of an I beam there, Bue.

Been 16 hours since our shots and no reaction yet for the wife and I..

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Post by: Pat B on March 25, 2021, 09:10:03 AM
That's great to hear, Roy.  Was it the Medrena or Pfizer?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 09:17:04 AM
Pfizer
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 25, 2021, 09:19:40 AM
Nice riser Bue. Are you sure that is your real shop aint a spec of dust nowhere there.  :bigsmyl:
Roy hope all you get is a sore arm.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 09:23:46 AM
Arm is a little sore but not bad.
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Post by: Flem on March 25, 2021, 09:26:11 AM
My arm was sore for 2 days after my first shot. Felt like it got smacked with a lead pipe. That was Moderna.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 25, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
Nice riser Bue. Are you sure that is your real shop aint a spec of dust nowhere there.  :bigsmyl:
Roy hope all you get is a sore arm.

I gotta get me one of those CGI shops! :)
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Post by: Buemaker on March 25, 2021, 10:24:46 AM
CGI ??
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Post by: onetone on March 25, 2021, 10:37:43 AM
CGI = computer generated imagery   Nice shop you have there Bue!
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Post by: Pat B on March 25, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
We got the the Moderna too and had a pretty sore arm for a few days. A few years ago I got a pneumonia vaccine and that was as bad as my Moderna shot as far as sore arm. I wonder if that foot long needle had anything to do with it. I never felt the actual shot though.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 25, 2021, 11:12:42 AM
 Foot long needle hah. Just had my shoulder injected last week. That needle looked two foot. About 3 in. Tho. That hurt for sure.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 25, 2021, 12:58:36 PM
Yeah, can't figure out why they have such long needles. 
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Post by: Pat B on March 25, 2021, 01:07:43 PM
You'll notice they squeeze where the injection is going in. I guess it's to get the vaccine way down into the muscle. Maybe that mass of vaccine along with the long needle is where the soreness comes from.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 02:20:56 PM
Been 24 hours now and all we got was a little sore arm...

Before my shoulder surgery, they injected my shoulder, that didn't feel real good...
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Post by: kennym on March 25, 2021, 08:07:11 PM
Finished a bow blank today, some purty nice curly maple...


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Post by: Longcruise on March 25, 2021, 08:34:50 PM
Very nice.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: 4 point on March 25, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
Thats some good lookn maple Kenny.

Got a string on her. Its to heavy for me so its going to one of my short armed friends. The draw cycle feels nice, the tips are still forward a bit at 28"s.

 
(https://i.imgur.com/6AYZhAl.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 09:38:24 PM
Purty nice Kenny

Travis that's a good looking bow.
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Post by: kennym on March 26, 2021, 07:32:33 AM
That's sweet Travis! :thumbsup:
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Post by: Flem on March 26, 2021, 10:41:34 AM
Thats a nice looking riser travis :thumbsup: Nice symmetry and flow. Keeps your eyes moving looking at it.
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Post by: Shredd on March 26, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Well it looks like somebody came out smelling like roses...  Great job buddy... Hope you are happy with it...

Where's the 28" draw pic?? 

If the tips are forward at full draw are you gonna cut it back a half inch or so or tweak the limb in some way??
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Post by: 4 point on March 26, 2021, 11:56:41 AM
Shredd, I’ll post a 28” draw pic tonight. I’m fairly happy with it the way it’s so far. If I moved the nocks out a half inch or so it would let them open up a little more but I’m my experience it wouldn’t gain much other than extra tip weight. Think it’s gonna have to be a couple inches long for my draw length. Probably goto a 18” riser and leave the limbs alone
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Post by: 4 point on March 26, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
Here you go shredd. I might profile taper the limbs a bit more so the tips open up more.
(https://i.imgur.com/ac4Pq87.jpg)
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Post by: Mad Max on March 26, 2021, 08:56:31 PM
 :thumbsup: 4 point
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Post by: kennym on March 26, 2021, 08:56:57 PM
Good string angle!!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 26, 2021, 09:11:14 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mad Max on March 27, 2021, 08:52:02 AM
3 to 5* less on pad angle
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Post by: kennym on March 27, 2021, 08:42:01 PM
Tried the crappie, but too much rain last few days, so did some scouting for next fall...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 28, 2021, 04:53:02 AM
Guess those crappies didn't wanna get wet?

Just sayen.
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Post by: kennym on March 28, 2021, 07:32:42 AM
They sure didn't wanna eat nuthin...
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Post by: Flem on March 28, 2021, 09:58:59 AM
You guy's eat things called "crappie"?? I wouldn't touch that with my left hand!
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Post by: B-JS on March 28, 2021, 12:16:58 PM
Finished tillering the 100# Thing.
Came out exactly 100@28".
One step to the customers Goal of 125-150 in the Future.
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Post by: Robertfishes on March 28, 2021, 03:24:41 PM
 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]  Kenny, we call them Speckled Perch here but they are Black Crappie. These were in 5 ft of water between the lily pads and the cypress swamp lake edge..  Missouri minnows 30 inches under a slip cork. 
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 28, 2021, 04:52:42 PM
Nice catch Robert...

Put buffalo horn overlays on a bow.







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Post by: Longcruise on March 28, 2021, 06:42:50 PM
Nice stuff going on!  I love those crappies but it's hard to find big ones here. 

Couple days ago I tripped on a chair leg in the dining room and hit the wall.   Made a pretty good hole.  The wife is antsy cause we are throwing a birthday party on Thursday and it has to be fixed NOW.    :)

Wouldn't be so bad except when I sawed out around the break I sawed through the wiring of a wall outlet on the other side of the wall.  :o  I didn't realize it until the wife complained that the toaster wouldn't work.  So that's what I worked at today and not done yet. 

Please tell me I'm not the only one who breaks things every time I fix them!!??  :bigsmyl:

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Post by: onetone on March 28, 2021, 07:37:13 PM
Oh yeah been there, done that! Then I’d watch an episode of Tool Time with Tim the Tool Man Talyor to make myself feel better. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 28, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
LOL Mike.

Last week I replaced a 50 year old toilet that had new 3/4" flooring laid around it 6 years ago....

What a trip.
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Post by: Longcruise on March 28, 2021, 09:31:22 PM
Nice to know I'm not alone! 

Brakes are dragging on the car.  :(
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Post by: 4 point on March 28, 2021, 10:56:32 PM
Got this roughed out this weekend and put a few arrows thru it. I'm very surprised for the first try of this design. Not sure i'm gonna change a thing. She's a shooter as well as being a sexy little thing!
(https://i.imgur.com/j8ddwNq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yHzGhaI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0YpvVqY.jpg)
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Post by: Flem on March 28, 2021, 11:13:40 PM
Really nice looking riser Travis :thumbsup: Thats some interesting wood, looks like marble in the pictures.
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Post by: 4 point on March 28, 2021, 11:26:08 PM
Flem, it’s maple crotch wood that I stabilized. I’m fairly sure it is a soft maple but it sucked in a bunch of resin and has a lot of mass weight. I also stabilized the walnut but it didn’t take that much resin. I’m still a little worried about the strength of it. It seems kinda flexy. I didn’t radius the site window as much as normal because I’m worried about strength
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 29, 2021, 04:07:13 AM
Very sharp, Travis...

What did the weight end up at?
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Post by: Mad Max on March 29, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Nice 4 point
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Post by: 4 point on March 29, 2021, 08:17:04 AM
Roy it’s 54 @ 28 and a 61” bow
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 29, 2021, 08:25:06 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shredd on March 29, 2021, 10:06:46 AM
Nice...  Looks great... Did you cut the tips back a little... The curves don't look as rounded as in the other pic?? Could just be the angle of the pic also...
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Post by: Longcruise on March 29, 2021, 10:19:38 AM
That's a very attractive riser.  Are the wedges matching walnut?
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Post by: 4 point on March 29, 2021, 10:51:23 AM
Shredd, only changes I made was narrowing up the tips at the center of the hook and raised the brace a half inch. I think it’s just the pic angle
The wedges are walnut
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Post by: skeaterbait on March 29, 2021, 12:42:01 PM
That is a beauty.
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Post by: onetone on March 29, 2021, 04:35:20 PM
So fine! Is the sight window cut past center?
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Post by: Shredd on March 29, 2021, 05:43:18 PM
 :thumbsup:  Good luck with her...  I am glad she worked out for you... 
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Post by: 4 point on March 29, 2021, 08:23:27 PM
Onetone, I cut it rite at center but I’m sure I cut it in a little while I radiused the sight window. I tried to leave as much mass in it as possible because I’m not sold on the strength of the wood I used
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Post by: onetone on March 30, 2021, 12:03:06 AM
Thanks, sometimes it is hard to tell from a pic. That bow sure is a looker.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 30, 2021, 01:31:04 PM
Very nice bow there.
Here is an alternate to Osage that prolly wont change color. Hard maple dyed and stable with Aztec gold. and the weight is there to.
(https://i.imgur.com/0ZrxXXY.jpg)
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Post by: Buemaker on March 30, 2021, 02:13:11 PM
Got stung today by mrs. Pfizer. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 30, 2021, 02:47:33 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Had our second shot last Wednesday...
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Post by: Pat B on March 30, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
I'll get my second Moderna shot on the 6th. My wife got her's last Friday.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 30, 2021, 06:45:06 PM
A buddy brought me some mulberry. Still got the bark on it. Prolly ought get off right. It is yellow but not bright like Osage
(https://i.imgur.com/Tn1zdNx.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 30, 2021, 08:28:00 PM
Have used mulberry here to make bows, nice stuff, almost as good as Osage..

Have several half logs in the barn...
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Post by: Pat B on March 30, 2021, 10:20:54 PM
Mulberry can stand toe to toe with osage...almost. It being lighter in physical weight gives it a leg up with osage.
And, in a few years it darkens and looks very similar to aged osage. It makes a good selfbow for sure.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 31, 2021, 08:07:56 AM
This needs to dry for quite awhile. With some careful cutting and gluing probably some risers in these pieces.
And some veneers.
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Post by: Flem on March 31, 2021, 09:39:04 AM
I had to look up Mulberry, never seen a tree or the wood. Which species of Mulberry is it?
I have had dried Mulberries, they were delicious.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 31, 2021, 05:26:41 PM
I have no idea of species. So.In. growen.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on April 01, 2021, 05:28:07 AM
I've used it in selfbows, trilams, and glass bows. I have a bunch of rough sawn mulberry boards. I bought them because the guy said they were osage. They had been in a barn for over 20 years, so they were really dark and dirty. Sort of looked like osage from the outside, hard to tell in a dusty old barn... but as soon as I started moving them, I noticed they felt too light weight for osage. I scraped down into a few with my knife. I told him I didn't think it was osage, maybe mulberry or black locust. He still insisted it was osage. Then I wasn't sure, but the price was good either way and figured I'd use it no matter which of the three it was, so I brought it home. It was obvious it wasn't osage once it was standing next to some equally old osage boards I had... and as soon as I cut into it. Osage? No friggin way.

Now, was it mulberry or locust? Seemed a little bit light weight for locust too, and it failed the black light test. Black locust glows like it's radioactive under a black light, mulberry doesn't at all, and there was none of that, so I'm confident it's mulberry.

No, mulberry isn't 'bad', but it isn't osage either. I sure wish it was osage. It was about half a pickup load of boards about 10' long. Oh well, live and learn.

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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 01, 2021, 07:01:08 AM
LOL, remember the time Kevin and I cut down a locust tree and thought it was Osage?

LOL
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Post by: Flem on April 01, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
Apparently Red Mulberry is our only native. White Mulberry is more common, but introduced.
The Mulberry berries I have had were white, interlopers!
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Post by: Pat B on April 06, 2021, 09:32:41 AM
Heading out in a few minutes for my second Moderna vaccine.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 06, 2021, 09:48:58 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Flem on April 06, 2021, 09:52:15 AM
Good on you Pat :thumbsup:  Hope it does not kick your a$$, like it did on my wife!
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Post by: Pat B on April 06, 2021, 12:29:52 PM
Flem, I'm taking tomorrow off just in case. My wife got her second two weeks ago and my daughter a few days later. Both had somewhat bad reactions. The good thing is it normally only last 24 hours so I can deal with that. Gives me a good excuse to take a nap.  :goldtooth:
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Post by: bigbob2 on April 07, 2021, 01:58:24 AM
I had my first Astro Zenica Shot yesterday and absolutely zero reactions. Get the second shot in 12 weeks time.Cant do much bow wise here, been raining non stop for about 10 days.Sick of the sight and sound of it!.
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Post by: Pat B on April 07, 2021, 09:04:13 AM
Basically I feel like I was in a brawl yesterday, sore muscles all over. No problem sleeping as long as I didn't roll over on my left arm. Taking it easy today.
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 07, 2021, 11:13:01 AM
this is my first attempt to make an oak bow, It has a set of 1-inch, and the draw weight is a bit lower than my expectation. I'll try to temper it (heat treatment) to add a little reflex.
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Post by: Longcruise on April 07, 2021, 01:36:41 PM
Looks good.   All my oak boards came in a little light.   Not the wood though.  Just need to go slower.
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Post by: mmattockx on April 07, 2021, 05:19:36 PM
this is my first attempt to make an oak bow, It has a set of 1-inch, and the draw weight is a bit lower than my expectation.

No surprise, it is tough to do a board bow without at least a bit of set. Looks like a nice bend and handle details. How wide is it?


Mark
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 08, 2021, 02:09:15 AM
2" wide at the fade start to 1/2" at the tips, with 8" rigid handle :)
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Post by: Flem on April 08, 2021, 08:47:34 AM
Thats a nice looking bow Keyang! What species of Oak do you have where you live?
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Post by: skeaterbait on April 08, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
Looks good, I have always liked the look of a pyramid bow.
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Post by: mmattockx on April 08, 2021, 09:56:13 AM
2" wide at the fade start to 1/2" at the tips, with 8" rigid handle :)

That's very reasonable for oak. How long is it and what was your target draw weight?


Mark
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 08, 2021, 12:45:35 PM
Thx guys.
 
To Flem: I got those oak from building materials store,it should be North America white oak which is just from the place I you are I guess? We have some laws forbidding cutting trees.  :bigsmyl:

To Mark: I want to make it up to 50 pounds but it only got 40
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Post by: mmattockx on April 08, 2021, 03:10:48 PM
To Mark: I want to make it up to 50 pounds but it only got 40

50lb is asking quite a bit of oak, depending on how dense it is.


Mark
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 08, 2021, 05:47:54 PM
Got the word an hour ago my great nephew enlisted in the Navy.

I've been mentoring him in hunting and stickbows for 7 years, he's 21 now.

Made me so proud of him, brought tears to my eyes.
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Post by: Pat B on April 08, 2021, 10:36:19 PM
That's cool, Roy. Does he have a specialty?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 09, 2021, 03:52:29 AM
He's an active fireman and he's decided to enter the medical field in the Navy.
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Post by: Pat B on April 09, 2021, 07:18:36 AM
That's brave these days.
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Post by: kennym on April 09, 2021, 07:46:15 AM
Roy, that's great, thank him for serving !!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 09, 2021, 07:48:22 AM
Will do Kenny, thanks.
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Post by: 4 point on April 09, 2021, 08:37:56 AM
Good for him! If he decides to turn it into a career he can retire at a young age.
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Post by: Flem on April 09, 2021, 09:16:55 AM
Congratulations to him and you  :clapper:
I hope he has a long, rewarding career and nothing but smooth sailing!
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Post by: Shredd on April 09, 2021, 09:55:23 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Stagmitis on April 09, 2021, 01:44:48 PM
I feel the proudness Roy! A big pat on the back  :shaka:
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Post by: Mad Max on April 09, 2021, 03:13:59 PM
 :thumbsup: :jumper:
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Post by: 4 point on April 10, 2021, 10:30:25 PM
Glued up this mess up today. A lot of hassle for a accent strip.

(https://i.imgur.com/gox1WLt.jpg)



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Post by: Buemaker on April 11, 2021, 09:41:17 AM
Made another after the old recipe. So we shall see, overlays and tip reinforcements today.

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Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 10:05:39 AM
Wibs on the rotisserie



Rotate Roy  :goldtooth:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 11, 2021, 10:11:26 AM
Look awesome...

 :campfire:
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Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 10:42:09 AM
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Post by: Flem on April 11, 2021, 10:48:24 AM
You live in a hardwood forest and grill/smoke with propane?
Thats sacrilegious  :o
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Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 11:19:17 AM
My dad likes propane
I’m using kings Ford charcoal
Peach and Cherry
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Post by: Buemaker on April 11, 2021, 11:49:30 AM
That looks good Max. Nam Nam
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 11, 2021, 12:17:30 PM
That's what I call a smoker.....
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Post by: Flem on April 11, 2021, 01:07:36 PM
Peach and Cherry, very nice :thumbsup: 
I have not had the pleasure of using Peach, mostly Apricot, Cherry and Apple is what I can get here.
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 11, 2021, 01:24:37 PM
 :bigsmyl: +5lb
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 11, 2021, 01:47:51 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 11, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
Looking good Mr. Z
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 11, 2021, 06:06:39 PM
Just got home from KY. Tradfest. For a duck it would have been fun.
I did move a bow or two tho.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
Nice bend Z

I made that Rotisserie back in 2005 for my Dad :bigsmyl:


4 Point ---Need to see that stripe block :thumbsup:
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Post by: kennym on April 11, 2021, 08:03:20 PM
I camo sprayed the turkey meds bow from a couple years ago and tuned arrows to it , shot broadheads and sharpened them up. Starts on the 19 th...
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Post by: 4 point on April 11, 2021, 08:46:37 PM
Traded a buddy this bow for a beautiful live edge ash coffee table he made me. Life would be a lot simpler if we could barter our way thru life!
(https://i.imgur.com/JHb16q2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QCGFMAj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WOHbpQC.jpg)
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 11, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Beautiful work! The bow and the table. I think that was a good trade.
Dave.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 10:13:47 PM
X2
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Post by: Shredd on April 11, 2021, 11:22:20 PM
That's a looker... Nice table too...
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Post by: mmattockx on April 11, 2021, 11:56:08 PM
Went out and picked up a free project car, a 1997 Jetta. Has a dead engine, but came with another complete engine to rebuild and swap out. Aftermarket suspension, fancy brakes and more. Should be a great driver once it is all back together. :jumper:

(https://i.imgur.com/BSCOcLx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nf7S2yP.jpg)


Mark
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Post by: Flem on April 12, 2021, 10:24:20 AM
Which motor does your Jetta have? Some of those Jetta's were pretty zippy.

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Post by: mmattockx on April 12, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
Which motor does your Jetta have? Some of those Jetta's were pretty zippy.

Both are the 2.0L naturally aspirated version. Nice torque and fun to drive, but not super powerhouses. They do well with a turbo, though. Current plan is to check out the spare and rebuild whatever is needed then use it to get the car running. The motor in the car has a big cam in it and a chipped ECU, so I will put that head on the spare to add some snappiness but it still won't be a monster.

Long term I will rebuild the damaged motor and decide if I want a lot more power from a turbo or not.


Mark
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Post by: Buemaker on April 13, 2021, 08:04:36 AM
Fine adjusting side profile.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 13, 2021, 08:14:53 AM
 :thumbsup:  Bue
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 13, 2021, 08:46:46 AM
Very nice, Bue..
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Post by: Stagmitis on April 13, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
Bue you got the best floors!!!! :shaka:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 14, 2021, 08:12:20 AM
First time on the tiller. Back to the old recipe so we shall se how it works out
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 14, 2021, 08:29:33 AM
Sweet....
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Post by: B-JS on April 14, 2021, 02:30:42 PM
Finished the Twins for clear coat.





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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 14, 2021, 02:33:55 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 14, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
Looking good and interesting riser design.
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Post by: B-JS on April 14, 2021, 04:17:11 PM
Thanks.
I wanted a Design, that leaves me all possibilities.
With the flat Belly, i can build everything from a very slim Longbow grip Up to a very bulky and heavy pistol grip, with one Form.
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Post by: Flem on April 14, 2021, 07:24:01 PM
That pair is almost too pretty :thumbsup:
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Post by: onetone on April 14, 2021, 11:14:36 PM
Nice work x 2! Looks they are meant to be shot high wrist?
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 15, 2021, 04:59:12 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Flem on April 15, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
Going for my 2nd Moderna shot this morning :scared:. A little trepidation, everybody I have talked to feels crappy afterwards. Hate to loose a day or two this time of year. Oh well
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 15, 2021, 12:39:49 PM
Hope ya don't have a reaction, Flem..

 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 15, 2021, 02:39:18 PM
Getting there. It is a very slight positive tiller on upper limb.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 15, 2021, 03:20:07 PM
I had a reaction with my second Moderna.
Looking good Bue.
I been busy this morning. One limb out and one in.
Then a whole LB glued up also. And a riser partly shaped and some quarter sawen Sycamore veneers.

(https://i.imgur.com/svjiMQe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pswT4up.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PYFIuwa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aVPdBoE.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 15, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
Very nice, Mike.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 15, 2021, 04:48:50 PM
Nice bend Bue

Looking good stic---Osage in a can :thumbsup: :laughing:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 15, 2021, 05:34:31 PM
Cactus juice with Aztec gold dye.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 15, 2021, 05:39:19 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: kennym on April 15, 2021, 08:23:27 PM
Since I retired I've become a free agent I guess.  Water and sewer lines, flooring , sheetrock, poured bridge deck today for my previous employer... :laughing:

And the bow shop...

Somethin gonna give next week tho, turkey season starts Monday... :goldtooth:
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Post by: Bob D on April 16, 2021, 10:13:41 AM
Going for my 2nd Moderna shot this morning :scared:. A little trepidation, everybody I have talked to feels crappy afterwards. Hate to loose a day or two this time of year. Oh well

Flem, How do you feel today?
The wife and I get our 2nd Moderna on the 27th. and we are trying to get an idea of what to expect. The RN who gave the shot warned that the 2nd would be “worse than the first”. Keep us posted if you would.
The first shot only made me feel like I got a blunt hit to the shoulder for a few days. I couldn’t shoot for a bit but that was about all.
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Post by: Flem on April 16, 2021, 10:35:22 AM
Feel OK. Sun seems bright this morning, might have to find a dark place to hang out for a while.
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Joking aside, I feel fine so far except I cant flap my left wing. Damn nurse hit me with a 10lb needle!
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Post by: Bob D on April 16, 2021, 10:48:20 AM
Thanks Flem.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on April 16, 2021, 12:16:05 PM
Myself, my wife and other friends that got the Moderna shot had varying effects the day after the shot from headaches, some have nausea, I or my wife didn't have nausea and basically an overall tiredness, no energy. By the next day all of that has passed and overall everyone felt almost better than before the shot. That part might been the relief of knowing we were inoculated.  ;)
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Post by: Buemaker on April 16, 2021, 02:57:22 PM
Shaping tips
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 16, 2021, 03:18:34 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Stagmitis on April 16, 2021, 05:38:33 PM
Dang Bue! Those tips are sexier than your workshop floors  :clapper:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 12:03:07 PM
Had 3 poles of Makake bamboo delivered today.

A good 12 bow backings in those 3 poles.

Need to split one side of them and wedge it open an inch or so to expedite the drying for next fall..

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Post by: Flem on April 17, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Nice looking grass Roy ;). That one on the right is so much thicker walled and nearly twice the nodes.
Same species?
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Post by: Shredd on April 17, 2021, 12:58:52 PM
Is Makake the best for bows??  What is the diameter of those??

  Flem...  Probably just the base of the boo...  The nodes or culms get further apart as you go up the stalk...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 01:01:17 PM
I think it appears thicker cause there is a node so close to the end.

It does have more nodes though, I'm not real crazy about that one but they are 8 feet long and on the far end the nodes are further apart. If you compare the far ends of all 3 poles, you can see the node spacing is greater at the other end.

They will shrink a tad after drying.

I have found Madake to be very good for bows, I have never had a backing failure since using it, they are 4 inches in diameter.
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Post by: Shredd on April 17, 2021, 01:24:51 PM
I have got a lot of boo on my property...  I guarantee that thickness is not from the node... It's not close enough to the node to influence the thickness that much...  When you crack that open you will see that it will be pretty thick like that and slightly getting thinner for the next 3 to 5 feet up the stalk...

  You may want to take a piece of rebar and break out a hole in each one of the sections for drying...  But I am not sure how it will effect the process as far as splitting and such...  I do know that the thicker the wall is that it is more prone to splitting and that certain sections of boo have more tensile strength than others...  I believe the mid sections are the strongest...  The two on the left should be the most resilient..

   My research was some years back so don't hold me to all this...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 01:33:12 PM
Thanks Rich

I played that game of driving a pipe up through the center, it was a bitch getting it back out.

I'll just drive a machete up the entire length to open up a crack then wedge it open a little.

It will stay in the shop for a couple months then when it's warmer I'll set it outside for a bit during the day.

You are not supposed to dry boo too fast.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 17, 2021, 02:05:16 PM
I node bamboo was nodey but not as nodey as the one on the right.  :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: Shredd on April 17, 2021, 02:08:19 PM
 Yeah...  I hear yah...  It can be a bitch...  But if you use a 1/2" piece of rebar it has a sawing effect...   Attach the boo to a solid surface...  Break out one section and saw the rebar back and forth until it slides smoothly and then go to the next section...  Only go half way and then go from the other side of the boo...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 02:11:28 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 17, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)
You’re such a redneck. Make sure that you get it on video. 😁
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 03:09:34 PM
 :laughing: :thumbsup:
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Post by: B-JS on April 17, 2021, 04:08:37 PM
Sprayed the Twins today.
And about to finish an other one.
A buddy wants a 45# longbow with 180+fps @ 28" and 10gpp.
Should be no rocket science.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 04:11:23 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mad Max on April 17, 2021, 05:07:39 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)
You’re such a redneck. Make sure that you get it on video. 😁
Dave.

WATCH OUT, most of us are rednecks, I want to see it too :laughing:


Nice B-JS
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Post by: Bvas on April 17, 2021, 09:45:48 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)
Let Chris do the shootin. Better chance she’ll put it down the middle.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 04:01:31 AM
You're probably right,  LOL.

And she loves to shoot, especially the AR15.
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Post by: kennym on April 18, 2021, 08:08:23 AM
30 rounds oughta clean up the pith , unless you're holdin the boo for her, then there may be more pith... :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 08:17:17 AM
I'm sure something would run out:)
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Post by: Eric Krewson on April 18, 2021, 09:12:58 AM
I have used a bunch of mandrake, just take a hoe handle and knock the inner nodes out, they bust out very easily with little effort.

The patch I cut out of had trunks with wide nodes, unfortunately the land sold and the patch was bulldozed.

This is what I cut from the patch;

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Post by: Flem on April 18, 2021, 09:17:26 AM
Thats nice looking Bamboo! How long does it take to get that big?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Thanks Eric..
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Post by: Pat B on April 18, 2021, 10:24:07 AM
I Googled "Life cycle of Mandrake timber bamboo" and this was one of the answers...
 
 After the 60 day period of growth, the bamboo cane never grows in height or diameter again. Bamboo doesn't experience secondary growth like trees or most flora. It will put on new foliage every year, and a cane typically lives for 10 years. Bamboo is a member of the grass family.
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Post by: Shredd on April 18, 2021, 10:48:22 AM
Thats nice looking Bamboo! How long does it take to get that big?

It grows fast... Up to a foot a day...  But I believe you got to let it season a year or two before you harvest...

 Roy and Eric... Do you fire or heat treat the boo before you use it??
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Post by: Mad Max on April 18, 2021, 11:03:40 AM
James Parker fire burns the belly Boo only
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Post by: Flem on April 18, 2021, 11:35:58 AM
Thats amazing it grows that big in sixty days!!  Hell, we don't get tomatoes in sixty days around here.
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Post by: Pat B on April 18, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
Mark, have you watched James fire burn boo bellies? I was at his house outside Hickory, NC a few years ago when he was burning some. You would have thought that all that would be left after his rosebud propane torch burning there would be nothing left but ashes. Over the years James has made many, many boo back/belly bows using this technique with great success.
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Post by: mmattockx on April 18, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)

Better living through (more) modern technology! I also want to see video of this.  :bigsmyl:

If Roy won't do it I can give it a try if someone will send me the bamboo.  :cheesy:


Thats amazing it grows that big in sixty days!!  Hell, we don't get tomatoes in sixty days around here.

It's crazy how fast it grows, you can just about sit and watch it get taller. My climate is like yours, nothing grows fast around here.


Mark
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 01:45:58 PM
I've never burnt it but I know woodcarver dave does.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 18, 2021, 01:55:21 PM
Mark, have you watched James fire burn boo bellies? I was at his house outside Hickory, NC a few years ago when he was burning some. You would have thought that all that would be left after his rosebud propane torch burning there would be nothing left but ashes. Over the years James has made many, many boo back/belly bows using this technique with great success.

I have not Pat
Yes he's made plenty, he told me he had 8,000 bows logged( all kinds of bows), and wanted to get to 10,000 before
 he would stop.
We have Kudzu vine in the south planted to stop erosion on ditches, it can grow 1 foot a day in HOT Humid weather
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Post by: Shredd on April 18, 2021, 02:24:55 PM
  Installed this yesterday...  Looking forward to a much cooler shop this summer...  Gonna put a cheapy 20" box fan up in there...   The hatch took me about a week to make being that I fiberglassed it and painted it with a good oil base...  Still gotta put hinges on it, a bar to control the height and maybe a screen to keep out wasps and such...
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Post by: Shredd on April 18, 2021, 02:26:35 PM
Better pic... 
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Post by: Bob D on April 18, 2021, 04:05:44 PM
Looks good. I hope it works out the way you want.
 I envy your heat in January and feel sorry for you in July.
Is that white EPDM you have for a roof?

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Post by: 4 point on April 18, 2021, 09:57:58 PM
Finally building a bow for myself. Got the limbs glued up this weekend.
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Post by: Shredd on April 18, 2021, 11:31:20 PM
  Not sure what EPDM is... The roof is torch down... Did it a few months ago...

 Those look nice 4point...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 19, 2021, 06:08:57 AM
EPDM is rubber roofing.

Very nice Travis..
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Post by: Buemaker on April 19, 2021, 09:35:29 AM
Them limbs look good. What are the veneers on the right side?
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Post by: Flem on April 19, 2021, 09:47:05 AM
EDPM is probably the most common synthetic rubber used. Take all the EDPM off your car and you ain't going nowhere.

That Cedar is really beautiful :thumbsup:

This is what I woke up tp this morning;
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Post by: 4 point on April 19, 2021, 09:55:25 AM
Bue, the let side is spalted hackberry I got from Kenny and the right side is buckthorn I cut from my yard. The camera doesn’t show the beauty of the buckthorn
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Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 11:04:40 AM
EDPM is probably the most common synthetic rubber used. Take all the EDPM off your car and you ain't going nowhere.

That Cedar is really beautiful :thumbsup:

This is what I woke up tp this morning;


That's on the way to my house right now.
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Post by: Shredd on April 19, 2021, 11:37:04 AM
  What I used is called Modified Bitumen for my roof...  You heat it with a torch to weld the seams and to the sublayer...  Lasts 12 to 20 yrs. but I intend to coat it with elastomeric every 4 to 5 years and it will last for a lot lot longer...
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Post by: mmattockx on April 19, 2021, 11:44:31 AM
This is what I woke up tp this morning

That rolled through here saturday night, but it looks like it got angrier on the way down. We had about 4" once it was all done with.


Mark
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Post by: Flem on April 19, 2021, 02:40:53 PM
Bue, the let side is spalted hackberry I got from Kenny and the right side is buckthorn I cut from my yard. The camera doesn’t show the beauty of the buckthorn

No wonder that Juniper looked so exotic, it's Buckthorn :knothead:

Wonder if that grows around here..........
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Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
Face it, Flem,  you and I live in a hardwood desert!.
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Post by: 4 point on April 19, 2021, 03:00:51 PM
Flem.  It does look like cedar in the pic. I would bet you have it over there. It’s kind of a scrub tree. There ain’t much grows for trees in my area
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Post by: Stagmitis on April 19, 2021, 03:17:24 PM
That buckthorn is amazing---Has both Canary and Yew flairs about it-

Yes Flem it grows here-Think ill go cut some :)
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Post by: Flem on April 19, 2021, 03:22:36 PM
I was just reading about it. Don't know if I have seen it here. Nobody seems to like it much, according to google.

Face it, Flem,  you and I live in a hardwood desert!.

I'm happy when I see a big shrub!
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Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 03:32:52 PM
One of my goals for this year is to get into some good sized serviceberry.
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Post by: Stagmitis on April 19, 2021, 03:39:32 PM
Longcruise while your`e at it gorge on the berries..Yum yum !!!
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Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 04:10:17 PM
Unless ma nature has taken a bad turn,  I usually get a pie made for hunting camp.   Yeah,  good stuff.   :)
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Post by: Mad Max on April 19, 2021, 04:41:01 PM
Flem.  It does look like cedar in the pic. I would bet you have it over there. It’s kind of a scrub tree. There ain’t much grows for trees in my area

Look for it in heavy timber (thickets) where it grows taller.
I have some in full sun with limbs to the ground and bushy, and some in thickets that grow tall and less limbs on the lower trunk.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 19, 2021, 10:32:42 PM
This Aztec gold looking kinda like osage. With blonde sycamore.
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Post by: Buemaker on April 20, 2021, 03:05:55 AM
Looking good that yellow
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 03:54:15 AM
Very nice Mike.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 07:18:22 AM
Lookin good stic :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 20, 2021, 07:46:11 AM
Nice spring weather, so I can stay outside making dust
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 08:01:32 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: kennym on April 20, 2021, 08:11:38 AM
Lookin good Bue

Springtime here too allegedly ...  :biglaugh:

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Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 08:24:24 AM
Now I see how you can hit that deer, his antlers are in front of his eyes :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 08:45:20 AM
No cutting grass for you today, Kenny:)
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Post by: Eric Krewson on April 20, 2021, 09:04:31 AM
Just wondering; are most of the glass lam bows posted here for personal consumption or are most of you guys in the bow building business? You all crank out a lot of bows, I did at one time but all of mine were selfbows. I think I am up to 156 made so far but gave away way more than I sold but I didn't have the parts cost like a glass lam builder, looks like lam bows would be an expensive hobby.
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Post by: Flem on April 20, 2021, 09:12:55 AM
In the time it took to make those 156 self bows you could have made 1000 laminate bows and made some money  ;).   
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Post by: Bob D on April 20, 2021, 09:17:50 AM
Bue, Thats a nice bow and its good you have weather to do your sanding out on the porch. We had weather like that a couple weeks ago but now Kenny is sending that white stuff our way tonight. :tongue:
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Post by: Eric Krewson on April 20, 2021, 10:55:52 AM
I made a big mistake years ago and turned my hobby duck carving into a business, it got to where if I took a week of vacation I had to spend it carving ducks to try to catch up with the demand. One day I thought "this sucks" put my tools down and never carved another duck.

When I started making bows I only did it when wanted to, I was in it for the work which I loved, not the money. I had the money angle covered from 30 years of working in a power plant, I worked between 500 and 900 hours of overtime a year and was able to retire at 52 at the same money I made while working, I took saving for retirement VERY seriously.

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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 12:13:37 PM
After I was making bows for a few years, folks started asking me to make them a bow.

Then more and more folks wanted a bow.

Wasn't long till making bows was not as much fun.

It became work instead of a hobby.

End conversation....
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Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 12:34:02 PM
Make them when you want to, then sale what you have.
Then do it again if you want to. :thumbsup:
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Post by: kennym on April 20, 2021, 12:46:48 PM
Now I see how you can hit that deer, his antlers are in front of his eyes :laughing:

They are kinda droopy anyway, then snow on em sags em more... :laughing:

Not gonna shoot im in the eye anyways.  :biglaugh:
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Post by: skeaterbait on April 20, 2021, 01:00:56 PM
After I was making bows for a few years, folks started asking me to make them a bow.

Then more and more folks wanted a bow.

Wasn't long till making bows was not as much fun.

It became work instead of a hobby.

End conversation....

I used to work part time at an archery shop, the guy I worked with, and used to shoot with years before, always said "Never make your hobby your jobby"

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Post by: Longcruise on April 20, 2021, 01:17:46 PM
Make them when you want to, then sale what you have.
Then do it again if you want to. :thumbsup:

That's what I do.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 01:58:14 PM
Hobby NO Jobby :laughing:
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Post by: Shredd on April 20, 2021, 06:19:06 PM
Been selling bows for years now...  I think I'm up to three...    :laughing:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 20, 2021, 07:55:58 PM
Finished today. Feeling like I got this one figured out.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 08:02:30 PM
Nice Mike.

Love the made in USA...

Just love it.....
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Post by: 4 point on April 20, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
Mike, she’s a sexy thing!
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Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 10:16:00 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 21, 2021, 08:06:32 AM
Again I made a new oak bow and this time fortunately it has 50 pounds  :archer:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 21, 2021, 08:07:36 AM
Well it's 36 degrees and the ground has turned white, damn snow:)

Very nice, Keyang..
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Post by: Bowjunkie on April 21, 2021, 08:10:50 AM
Yeah, and about 1/3 of my fruit trees are in full bloom.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 21, 2021, 08:16:00 AM
Ouch that ain't good...
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Post by: Flem on April 21, 2021, 09:00:22 AM
Nice looking bow, Keyang!  Tiller looks spot on :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 21, 2021, 09:24:35 AM
Nice tiller Mr Z.
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Post by: Buemaker on April 21, 2021, 09:26:03 AM
Snow in Pa this time of year? OUCH
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Post by: mmattockx on April 21, 2021, 09:50:58 AM
Again I made a new oak bow and this time fortunately it has 50 pounds  :archer:

That looks really good. I like the tiller on this more than the first one, it is bending really nicely.


Mark
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Post by: Buemaker on April 22, 2021, 09:44:24 AM
Have not shot in some time, nice weather today so I took out Kenny’s beautiful swap bow from two years ago and shot a few arrows.
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Post by: Flem on April 22, 2021, 10:11:44 AM
Like your target Bue. It looks like a slice off a big round hay bale :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bowjunkie on April 22, 2021, 10:30:32 AM
Yeah that's cool. What the heck is that?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 22, 2021, 04:18:34 PM
Yeah Made in USA. No way a kin to dem $150 production Jap bows  :nono:
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Post by: Buemaker on April 22, 2021, 05:26:36 PM
These straw targets are longlasting, it is like a long tightly wrapped sausage that are sewn together in a spiral. Comes in different sizes and are much used over here. Used to be standard in outdoor world championships and the olympics.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 22, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Tightly wrapped sausage  :laughing: Thats a whole nuther subject :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 22, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Ah stickypops, LOL.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 24, 2021, 12:41:26 PM
Split the bamboo today and put small wedges in it to help dry it, took about 5 minutes for all 3 poles.

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Post by: Buemaker on April 24, 2021, 01:03:03 PM
Bamboo looks good. If you split it all the way in halves, will it check?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 24, 2021, 01:06:52 PM
Never tried that and don't want too.

I don't want it drying too fast at first.

Yes this Madake is awesome bamboo.....
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Post by: Mad Max on April 24, 2021, 03:36:59 PM
You da man roy
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Post by: 4 point on April 24, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
Got a little further on my personal bow. Riser mostly shaped, recurve limbs fit. My first run on the longbow limbs came in a good bit light but everything else about them I like. Hopefully get some over lays glued on tomorrow. Got some G10 from big jim and put a 1/2 inch I beam in the riser. I was surprised by the mass weight it added!
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Post by: Mad Max on April 24, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
looks nice 4point :thumbsup:
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Post by: skeaterbait on April 24, 2021, 11:44:05 PM
That is a beautiful wood, what is that?
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Post by: 4 point on April 24, 2021, 11:55:33 PM
Lonnie it’s a really nice chunk of ziricote It was to nice to separate and mix with another wood so I did a same wood flair.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2021, 04:11:26 AM
Travis that is very sweet.
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Post by: Buemaker on April 25, 2021, 04:15:34 AM
Nice, I like that riser.
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Post by: skeaterbait on April 25, 2021, 07:42:26 AM
Your spray booth is pretty awesome, if you ever stop building bows I'll bet you could spray a car in there.  :saywhat:
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Post by: Shredd on April 25, 2021, 09:02:08 AM
 Nice sweeping lines on that riser...
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Post by: Flem on April 25, 2021, 09:23:29 AM
Hell with the riser, that spray booth is the poop :thumbsup:
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Post by: 4 point on April 25, 2021, 09:36:09 AM
Thanks guys, it looks like someone needs to paint the booth walls. I didn’t realize how bad they were till I looked at them in the pic
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2021, 09:36:38 AM
Yes it is awesome.
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Post by: JGR1269 on April 25, 2021, 12:19:56 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on April 25, 2021, 02:34:27 PM
A Bow closet  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2021, 03:32:54 PM
Shaped tips, filed in string grooves, roughed in riser.

Couldn't find camera.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 25, 2021, 04:16:36 PM
Working on a bow rack and a turkey pot call.
Dave.
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Post by: kennym on April 25, 2021, 05:32:08 PM
Check yer sock drawer and see if Chris will let you have any batteries .
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Post by: Flem on April 25, 2021, 06:33:12 PM
I built a heat box this morning out of a set of bi-fold doors I removed from the house a while back. I’ll use it for curing the finish and gluing on overlays.


Great idea! Nice repurpose too :thumbsup:
If they are hollow  ;), you could drill some holes and fill it with spray foam.
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Post by: Longcruise on April 25, 2021, 07:31:42 PM
Made a string out of linen.   Very quiet.

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Post by: Flem on April 26, 2021, 10:12:31 AM
Hey thats very cool :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Could you do a French twist or is the thread too thick?
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Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 11:29:27 AM
Not sure how to do a French twist but I'm going to make one for a recurve in flemish twist.   More to come.
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Post by: Flem on April 26, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
How about a French braid :tongue:
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Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 12:25:08 PM
How about a French braid :tongue:

Don't know how to do that either!  :)
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Post by: williwaw on April 26, 2021, 12:57:14 PM
Made a string out of linen.   Very quiet.


Nice, I have a similar one for a ELB.  Keeping it a bit damp when shooting makes it hold up better (of so I have read)
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Post by: Buemaker on April 26, 2021, 03:36:23 PM
If out of line, Roy, just remove.

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Post by: Mad Max on April 26, 2021, 04:11:47 PM
 :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2021, 04:19:43 PM
It looks ok to me:)
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Post by: Pat B on April 26, 2021, 06:19:49 PM
...been there, done that.
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Post by: kennym on April 26, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
Looks like bow stuff to me ...
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Post by: Shredd on April 26, 2021, 08:20:33 PM
  Old Chinese Proverb...

           "In beginning, short on arrow by losing...  In end, short on arrow by breaking"...
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Post by: Flem on April 27, 2021, 10:42:28 AM
Looks like you have been wandering a long time Bue, since you were a young man :biglaugh:
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 27, 2021, 06:37:21 PM
I hung my new bow rack this afternoon. It’s made from a nice piece of yew with cherry pegs that I turned.





It can hold up to 27 bows. Plenty of room to grow. 😁
Dave.
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Post by: Pat B on April 27, 2021, 07:51:43 PM
From the top pic I was wondering how the bows stayed horizontal.  :o    :dunno:    :laughing:
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 27, 2021, 07:52:33 PM
It took some doing...
Dave.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 27, 2021, 07:53:50 PM
For the life of me, I can’t turn the pics.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 28, 2021, 05:40:08 AM
All fixed, Dave

Very nice..
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Post by: Buemaker on April 28, 2021, 06:50:22 AM
Looking very good. I am curious about the recurve with the Bloodwood riser, is the finish holding up well?
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Post by: wood carver 2 on April 28, 2021, 04:34:08 PM
Bue, the recurve that you built for me is still looking great. I took it turkey hunting last time I was out but they stayed out of range. I only managed to get one on the last day with a gun at max range. My friends who have been bowhunters all their lives liked it and how it shoots.
Dave.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 28, 2021, 06:04:36 PM
I got behinder today.  :knothead: Am doing a two piece. the first wrap did not com all the way apart. So I ground it all off and redone it. everything looking good I put it on the bench dowell to check the limbs for pulling straight and heard a little tick.  :o. The wrap opened up near the shelf. So I put it on the scale and left it for awhile then it really opened up. Ground the sleeve back off and the carbon layer seem mushy. But the glass was solid . Gonna lay it back and re wrap later and make a one piece out of it. Now need to layup another for two piece.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 28, 2021, 08:19:54 PM
That sucks, what ya think caused it Mike?
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Post by: kennym on April 28, 2021, 09:33:45 PM
Hate that!  The one I built for Bue in a swap did same thing. Had it totally finished and drew it and heard the tic.  Cracked around the top of the sleeve.  So I put it in the shooter and dry fired it at 32" . :biglaugh:

Hmmm, didn't blow up so I set it back and finally redid it.  Haven't ground the handle back yet.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 29, 2021, 07:40:15 AM
Roy I noticed the carbon layer seemed mushy. That could be I did not get it fully wetted out but then there was all the other wrap over it and resin should have squeezed down in it okay. The regular glass  was solid.
So can't really say for sure. I really think just the glass is plenty strong with no carbon. So on the next one I think a colored thread is what I will use as an indicator so not to shape too deep in the throat area.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on April 29, 2021, 10:52:29 AM
Not today but yesterday, I got my first official haircut at the barber shop after over a year. My wife did give me a trim a few months ago but it's just not the same as a professional haircut. Anyway here is a before and after shot. When I asked our daughter what she thought she said I don't look as crazy.  :dunno:  :saywhat:
Before...
(https://i.imgur.com/nR9UaFj.jpg)

...and after...
(https://i.imgur.com/khhyBYY.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on April 29, 2021, 11:51:41 AM
I wanna say ya look great but....................
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Post by: Pat B on April 29, 2021, 12:01:02 PM
kinda like your avatar?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on April 29, 2021, 12:50:57 PM
OMG I'm cleaning up in back room , I have the worlds biggest supply of junk osage I'm sure.  :laughing:

A few decent pieces mixed in.  Have a pile  2.25" thick that has been stickered for 3 years in barn, says it is 7%  but I'm not sure of that.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: OldRawhide42 on April 29, 2021, 02:16:40 PM
One mans junk. Another mans gold.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 29, 2021, 02:50:23 PM
Pat ya look 20 years younger...

Kenny good find...

Tillered out a BBO today, easiest bow I've tillered yet cause the arrow shelf is 1.25" above bow center instead of the 2" I used to do.

Don't worry stickypops, your bow was 1.25" above center too, but this bow was tillered for 3 under so it was even easier than the split finger your bow is.









https://youtu.be/lXf3d24GsYA
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on April 29, 2021, 03:58:44 PM
Now, that's how a r/d is supposed to bend.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on April 29, 2021, 06:03:21 PM
Bow looks great, but the bowyer needs a haircut!  :thumbsup: :biglaugh:

What was that song? Get a haircut and get a real job!!!   That's what I need!! :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on April 29, 2021, 06:05:20 PM
I did find a few pcs of decent osage, and a pile of black locust...

Anybody but BVAS use black locust?   I musta had an impulse buy and it got covered up!!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 29, 2021, 06:23:14 PM
Don't need ah job, I's retard...
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Post by: Longcruise on April 29, 2021, 06:24:42 PM
kinda like your avatar?  :thumbsup:

LMAO.  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 29, 2021, 06:25:54 PM
His avatar is an improvement.

 :biglaugh:
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Post by: Longcruise on April 29, 2021, 06:32:34 PM


Never claimed to be good lookin.  Neither did my Mom!   :tongue:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on April 30, 2021, 03:18:31 AM
Is that really you Pat? I thought it was one of them ZZ Top fellas. I need a haircut myself.
Bow looks good Roy.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on April 30, 2021, 06:48:11 PM
  She looks like she's bending a bit too much at the fades...

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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 30, 2021, 06:58:58 PM
Then don't look at it.
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Post by: Shredd on April 30, 2021, 07:17:03 PM
 :o    :bigsmyl:  You get the creepy laugh for that one...   :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 30, 2021, 09:15:51 PM
Your swap bow looked like a one legged duck, out of water...

 :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Ken Sorg on May 01, 2021, 06:26:22 PM
Worked in the garden, but have a few cool video’s that I hope to load up tonight! Not garden related :biglaugh:
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Post by: Ken Sorg on May 01, 2021, 07:42:50 PM
Red elm staves! They both have pin knots that are intact and the bark peeled off like a banana!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 01, 2021, 07:53:48 PM
Nice...
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 01, 2021, 08:57:16 PM
Got some goodies today. 25 ft. of string silencer. Les than 9 bucks. About what you would pay for three sets of whiskers.
Sent a feller some scale wood and he sent me a nice small knife.
And some 700 carbons
Life is good
(https://i.imgur.com/ILpLWzS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NSG55lF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SidFKLi.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 01, 2021, 09:01:05 PM
All I did is watch...and got a sore neck from it. This past winter we had 2 large oak trees come down near our house. Fortunately they both fell away from the house. Well we had this big white oak just off out kitchen deck and ir was showing signs of rot at the base so we decided to take it out. here are a few pics of the process...oh yeah, white oak makes good bow wood.  :bigsmyl:
(https://i.imgur.com/lG7kDeG.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/SPGRLMv.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/7m9kKuo.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/clu3yup.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/HqVio1l.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/l58AKTc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/2C0x2RS.jpg?1)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 02, 2021, 05:15:36 AM
Good trade Mike.

Pat that's the only way to get trees down.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 02, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Roy, over the last 50 years I've cut many trees and can usually put them right where I want them to fall. In this case it wasn't worth the risk. It was fun to watch though.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 02, 2021, 10:51:05 AM
Thats a lot of nice wood :thumbsup: For me that would be 2 winters worth of firewood!   or some nice timbers  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 02, 2021, 10:57:21 AM
That and the 24" red oak that fell last winter in my front yard will be next year's firewood with maybe a stave or 2 for the shop. If it lasts 2 years that would be better but I can't count on that.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 02, 2021, 11:03:46 AM
I burn about 2 cords of Ponderosa every winter. That Oak probably has twice the BTU's of my Pine and I'm sure its easier to split!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 02, 2021, 11:47:30 AM
Some of those rounds of oak I could beat on all day with a splitting maul and not split them. I have a friend with a hydrolic splitter and that makes short(relatively) work of the matter. I'm only good for one gas tank at a sitting or I'd never get up.  :bigsmyl:  We go through about 5 cords a year, from October until April with January, February and March being the heaviest use.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bob D on May 03, 2021, 04:53:52 PM
I also have been playing with trees.
A lot of wind this spring has blown down 4 old white spruce. I got 2 of them cleaned up this past week. Today the wife and I got all the limbs run thru the chipper just before it started to rain (again)
One more big tree down out in the pasture and the smaller one in the center of the picture to go. (Unless the wind comes up again). :banghead:
Im 64 and the wife is 62. We are not sure how many more years we will be able to keep up this lumberjack stuff, but we both agree it’s better than being back in the office trying to keep customers happy.

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 03, 2021, 06:27:10 PM
Bob, I'm almost 71 and my wife is 73 so you have plenty of time left. At least you have a tractor and chipper.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 03, 2021, 08:50:21 PM
Unloaded a trailer load of hard maple and thick walnut I went after Saturday.  Got an order of Gordon glass in, end of one box was ripped off about 16" but it was all there and looked ok.

Dumb sparrows want to build in the door track of my back shop room.  They never figure it out, they drag crap in there and it falls in the shop but they keep trying...   May have to break out the Red Ryder... :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bob D on May 04, 2021, 11:03:16 AM
Bob, I'm almost 71 and my wife is 73 so you have plenty of time left. At least you have a tractor and chipper.  :thumbsup:

Thanks Pat, Maybe there is hope. Today I’m a bit shaken and stirred from that chipper, but we got two rainy days ahead so I should be all recovered by Friday  :thumbsup: Maybe even able to shoot my bow a few times. :archer2:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 04, 2021, 09:46:50 PM
Kenny is that Red Ryder a new model  bet its quick   :laughing:

I ran across a set of red stag burrs I have had for years. Was a trade. I think. anyhow they kinda yellowish looking and need dolled up a bit. What can I use for that. Think they will make good conversation limb bolt burrs.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZodV3sC.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 05:49:49 AM
Quote
May have to break out the Red Ryder...

You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie:)
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Post by: Flem on May 05, 2021, 09:03:36 AM
Stic, thats called patina. Some folks pay extra for that look. Personally I like when antlers, bone or Ivory get that character.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 03:58:48 PM
Today??

Another minor incident.   :banghead:

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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 04:02:58 PM
Damn Mike, how bad is it?
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Post by: Flem on May 05, 2021, 04:06:22 PM
Ouch! At least you had a cute little bonnet to put on it. :cheesy:

Looks like you ground away part of your thumb print.
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Post by: Buemaker on May 05, 2021, 05:00:55 PM
To bad, painfull stuff.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 06:15:20 PM
Not as bad as my bandaging makes it look.  I have had grinding incidents but this one was all new.  I went to the standing toolbox for a tool and without thinking I opened a drawer with two other drawers open (I know, why does anybody leave tool drawers open?) The whole box tipped over on me and I grabbed whatever I could of it and managed to tip it back on it's wheels.  Somehow The thumb got sliced in the process.

Oh well, another day, another learning experience.  :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 06:24:25 PM
Oh boy I've played that game too with the tool boxing tipping over towards me.

Now it has a board wedged under the front.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 05, 2021, 07:54:24 PM
Ouch !!

I cut lams, worked on a TD LB form , worked on my planter, hunted up parts for it to plant milo for bro ( gotta keep me a place to hunt) And found the corn units for his corn patch .

Sprayed my clover patch with a half dose of gly , buddy says that will kill the grass that’s takin over but not the clover. If it kills it I’ll plant beans on it...  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 08:11:20 PM
I use a herbicide called Arrow on my clover.

Doesn't hurt the clover at all.

Only kills grass but I use another herbicide for broadleaf weeds.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 05, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
If you don't move them tool boxes around put them against the wall and secure them to a stud.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 05, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
I use a herbicide called Arrow on my clover.

Doesn't hurt the clover at all.

Only kills grass but I use another herbicide for broadleaf weeds.

This is cheap and he said it works great.  I don't have much for broadleaf weeds in there so figgered I'd try it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 08:29:36 PM
I think your clover plot may be gone.. The half dose may help though.
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Post by: kennym on May 05, 2021, 08:46:49 PM
It'll get soybeans then when I plant the bigger one.  That patch never did take off like it shoulda.  Reseeded a couple times to try to help it but just ain't like the other ones...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 08:54:26 PM
Understand that, I had to put on 1000 pounds of lime on this year.

I'll hafta give soybeans a shot...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 09:22:13 PM
Understand that, I had to put on 1000 pounds of lime on this year.

I'll hafta give soybeans a shot...

You guys are such farmers.   :)

If I ever get into growing a crop it's going to be wheat.  500 elk can't be wrong!

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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 06, 2021, 10:10:41 AM
Roy you should eat some of that lime to sweeten you up  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 06, 2021, 10:20:02 AM
Thanks Mike...
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Post by: Eric Krewson on May 07, 2021, 09:28:12 AM
I spent a bundle on a herbicide to kill my clover called "tenacity", I have a mostly Zoysia grass yard. I mixed the poison with a surfactant and dye an sprayed 1/3 of the yard. I went back in the house to look at youtube videos on the stuff and found out that it kills zoysia. I instantly got out the water hose and tried to wash as much of it off the grass as I could, I ended up with a few bare patches but most of my grass was OK.

I found out I needed a product called SpeedZone for zoysia, I bought some an may use if if we get the sun to shine for a few days.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 07, 2021, 11:00:23 AM
Eric after 4 days of rain and cold weather a little sunshine would be nice:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 07, 2021, 11:45:37 AM
I plant white clover in my lawn. Clover is a legume and takes in nitrogen from the air and releases it into the soil and it is welcomed by many different pollinators.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bob D on May 07, 2021, 02:03:23 PM
What Pat said...
We used clover to restore our land when we bought it in 1982. It was very depleted as a former hill farm and clover worked like magic.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 07, 2021, 03:09:05 PM
Wild in my front yard

(https://i.imgur.com/NLJNXyn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gemGtTU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Dkdz114.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on May 07, 2021, 06:34:48 PM
I plant white clover in my lawn.

I've never found a need to plant it, simply not trying to kill it off has always been sufficient to have plenty of clover around.


Mark
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Post by: Shredd on May 09, 2021, 01:44:54 PM
I snatched the Gold...  Thanks for the tips guys...

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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 09, 2021, 02:13:46 PM
Congrats Rich..

 :thumbsup: :archer:
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Post by: kennym on May 09, 2021, 03:36:26 PM
Good job dude!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on May 09, 2021, 04:06:49 PM
Nice, Rich, congratulations.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 09, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
Got my 64" TD longbow out and shot a few times. Man, I love that bow!!

Had to quit, target is too close to the bluebird house and they felt threatened.  I don't know what their problem is, I never miss by ten feet, only four or five... :dunno:   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 09, 2021, 06:03:33 PM
Scored some 100yr old Doug Fir barn wood from a friend who was dismantling the structure. 100yrs is old for around here. I know for a lot of you who live in parts of the country with more history, thats a drop in the bucket. I like this old wood for arrows. After its aged for a long time it seems to act and it weighs like POC. Most of it is decorative, but some has nice grain and should make some fine shafts.
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Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 09, 2021, 07:04:34 PM


Nice job shredd  :notworthy:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 09, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
Flem that's nice..
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:08:54 AM
I make carpenter bee traps to give away, Home Depot has Doug Fir 4x4x8 post for around $20, I buy them for bee traps but as a former user of a router arrow shaft machine I often see a post with perfect grain that I can't stop thinking about making shafts out of. I have more arrows than I will ever shoot, dozens of store bought shafts as well but I still drool over such great wood. I have seen some posts with very tight grain as well, the one I just bought has tighter grain than the grain in the bee trap picture.

You have to look through the pile but the good posts are there, I bought this one a couple of days ago, clear straight grain end to end with only one knot that wouldn't affect any normal length shaft up to 32".

You can see the grain in the trap.



Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 09:26:26 AM
Eric, how does that trap work?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:43:03 AM


I made three for my neighbor yesterday and sent them a picture of one weeks catch in the trap the bees like the best. I have 6 traps on my deck, all with bees in them but they go in the trap above the stairs more than any other. I have caught over 50 bees so far, I will catch hundreds before the bee season is over. I used to have a dozen of so drilling on my deck at any given time, so far this year I have had one.

The curious bee goes in the hole but can only see light from the bottle because of the 45 degree entrance hole angle. The bee "goes to the light" and spends the rest of its life walking in circles trying to find a way out through the clear glass.

I just found out Spectracide foaming carpenter bee spray in their hole kills the offending bee in short order.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:49:52 AM

To make the traps I drill a 1" hole up the center of the 6" long piece of post then drill 1/2" holes at a 45 degree angle to meet the center hole. I use an arch punch to cut the the center out of what ever metal lid you have for the trap jar and nail it over the center hole with small brads.

I nail a sawtooth picture hanger on one side to hang the trap on a small nail. Trap placemen on a covered deck is the best up under the eves facing out



Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:58:20 AM
I know this bee trap stuff isn't bow related, Roy, give it a couple of days for people to have a look see, then delete it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bob D on May 10, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
Thanks Eric for the carpenter bee trap info. I thought it very interesting. We don’t have have any such vermin here in the frozen north.
And although Im no lawyer, I would think potential arrow wood diverted into bee traps is bow related. :dunno:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 12:31:59 PM
Thanks Eric! And they break my concentration when shooting off my deck so bow related as all get out!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
I'm fine with it Eric, been meaning to make a few of those myself.

Kenny sends me scraps from his broken bow riser projects and I'll use those to make the traps.

I'll release the bees one at a time and shoot them out of the air with a BBO bow and cane arrows:)
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Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 12:47:24 PM
Rody- you de man(iac) :laughing:
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Post by: Shredd on May 10, 2021, 01:21:23 PM
Might have to make one of those...  Thanks Buddy...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 10, 2021, 06:28:37 PM
You definitely want tighter grain for arrows then the 4X4 Fir in those pictures.
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Post by: Pat B on May 10, 2021, 07:42:47 PM
I got these in the mail today from my friend, Patrick. He goes by "Jackcrafty" on PA and on YouTube. I send Patrick hardwood shoots for his arrow making and he usually surprises me with gifts like these perfect hunting points. (https://i.imgur.com/MqNMPUc.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2021, 07:56:35 PM
Those are nice Pat.
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Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 08:14:56 PM
COOL points!!
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Post by: Mad Max on May 10, 2021, 08:47:18 PM
Nice score Pat
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Post by: Mad Max on May 10, 2021, 08:53:48 PM
I shot some arrows basically for the first time at the classic with my 25#@28" Recurve.
And shot some today too.
No pictures of the arrows in the target Roy, I almost missed the barn :laughing:
Trying to learn to shoot wrong eye dominate.

 (https://i.imgur.com/pIoT5fJ.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on May 10, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
  Great looking points...

 Good to hear that you are shootin again, Mark...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 10, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
 :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 03:47:17 AM
Trying to learn to shoot wrong eye dominate.?

Are you switching from right to left handed looks like?

I'm left eye dominant and shoot right handed.

I've found with both eyes open it really doesn't affect me much, that I know of. LOL

I shoot 3 under and use the tip of the arrow as a front sight so I do close my left eye.

But sometimes I'll keep both eyes open and still use the tip of the arrow and it doesn't seem to matter.

Just have fun Mark.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 11, 2021, 07:41:13 AM
I'm right handed, but I can only shoot left.
 
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 07:46:42 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: B-JS on May 11, 2021, 07:54:55 AM
Made a nice pink String for a bow with missed drawweight.
And about to Finish the one with the right weight.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on May 11, 2021, 10:28:32 AM
Nice bows, Joachim.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Flem on May 11, 2021, 12:20:36 PM
Nice bows :thumbsup: Pink string? Did you make it for Roy :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 12:28:29 PM
 :nono: :laughing:

Keep it up Flem and Flem is gonna change to Ellie May:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on May 11, 2021, 12:33:36 PM
Real man shoot pink!  :biglaugh:
No, it's a 23# bow for a Pinkywinky girly.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on May 11, 2021, 02:01:18 PM
Real man shoot pink!  :biglaugh:
No, it's a 23# bow for a Pinkywinky girly.

Soooo, it is for Roy then.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 11, 2021, 03:13:48 PM
:nono: :laughing:

Keep it up Flem and Flem is gonna change to Ellie May:)

I'm gonna need a new wardrobe to go with my new moniker :scared:
Cross dressing camo anyone?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 04:37:11 PM
LOL

 :laughing: :wavey:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 11, 2021, 05:04:46 PM
Real man shoot pink!  :biglaugh:
No, it's a 23# bow for a Pinkywinky girly.

Soooo, it is for Roy then.

Yup , I'm bettin it is for Pinkywinky !!  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 03:56:49 AM
Nuff outta you ole timer.

 :wavey:
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Post by: Shredd on May 12, 2021, 07:03:50 AM
Cross-dressing Camo??    :laughing: :biglaugh: :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 07:51:06 AM
 :bigsmyl: watch out Ellie May maybe gonna break out that double barrel slingshot to
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 08:40:19 AM
Ya mean like the slingshot Flemmy May made?

 :laughing:
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Post by: Flem on May 12, 2021, 11:33:38 AM
Flemmy May?     :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
Sliced some wood...
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 12:02:29 PM
Drilled some holes...
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 12:03:43 PM
And mounted some limbs..
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Then a couple buds came by and interrupted the progress. (Kenny & Roy?)  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 12:16:17 PM
LOL smart arse..

That gonna be your tree shooten bow?

 :laughing:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 12:38:15 PM
Looks like sycamore you sliced ?

Flemmy May two barrel slingshot  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 01:05:09 PM
LMAO

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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 01:37:39 PM
Crooked stic, I think it’s Walnut, at least that’s what I got a lot of.
Roy;  :laughing:Yep, aiming for some trees.
Did you and Kenny stop by cause you smelled Liver and Onions cooking?
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 03:28:59 PM
Well after some Crooked stic’s comment, then some sawing and  filing, I’m starting to re-think my wood, I may have grabbed a chunk of Cherry. Not sure
What do you all think?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 03:56:09 PM
That piece in the saw pic looks like quartersawen sycamore. The last pic looks kinda like cherry. That the same piece?

Ellie May look like a Ninja in that pic  :laughing:
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
That piece in the saw pic looks like quartersawen sycamore. The last pic looks kinda like cherry. That the same piece?

 I had so many pieces of walnut that I didn’t really look close, just grabbed it. But I think you are correct, probably Cherry. Never made a riser from it, I’m hoping it’s okay or strong enough!
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
Gonna depend on the weight of the bow. A couple of pieces of glass on the back of the riser would be good insurance.
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Post by: Flem on May 12, 2021, 08:37:52 PM
That don't look like Walnut. Cant you intdentify wood by smell? Close your eyes next time you are cutting some on the tablesaw, it will heighten your olfactory senses.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 09:34:02 PM
I would also reinforce walnut in a riser also.
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 09:45:46 PM
Okay definitely Cherry. I didn’t go and pick it out thinking it was Walnut, I had a piece of Walnut standing in a corner for months planning to do this. What I didn’t remember was that a friend had found the piece of wood I used in his late father’s barn. He didn’t know what it was but thought I might could use it. I stood it in the same place and forgot about it. I just grabbed it being in front and went at it! I should have wondered why it was wider, I had measured the Walnut at 1 1/2” wide, forgot! I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer! (Easy Roy). Anywho, it is pretty soft, I thought my bandsaw blade was doing quite well!   :dunno:
Well I found the Walnut I was planning to use, right where the Cherry was!
 My concern is if it is strong enough? I had plenty of phenolic but didn’t use any planning a light riser. Be hard to change now with inserts and pins installed. The bow is about 42# at my draw. Guess time will tell. :knothead:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 09:59:11 PM
Go for it before ya forget where ya laid the riser down:)
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 10:15:51 PM
Well this dummy done waded in too deep to turn back now, mounting hardware installed already. And it’s beginning to look like a bow!
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 10:20:52 PM
 So why not test drive it? Last thing I did tonight was fling some arrows with it.
Where you at Kenny M, aren’t you even going to laugh at me?  :banghead:
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Post by: Longcruise on May 12, 2021, 10:49:34 PM
That don't look like Walnut. Cant you intdentify wood by smell? Close your eyes next time you are cutting some on the tablesaw, it will heighten your olfactory senses.

And trim your fingernails.  :)
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 11:00:31 PM
That don't look like Walnut. Cant you intdentify wood by smell? Close your eyes next time you are cutting some on the tablesaw, it will heighten your olfactory senses.

And trim your fingernails.  :)
Yep. I missed that!  :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 04:46:40 AM
That's looking pretty good Tony.
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Post by: B-JS on May 13, 2021, 06:58:03 AM
Re-mounted the quiver to my man-bow.
Did not shoot it a lot in the past months, because i was testing the 60" Hybrids all the time.
Still a great Shooter.
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Post by: kennym on May 13, 2021, 07:55:11 AM
Sorry Tony, been busy helpin bro plant.  Told him he owes me 2 bucks , (big ones) LOL
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 08:24:58 AM
He already gave ya one big buck:)

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Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 11:31:39 AM
Damn Roy, thats the ugliest blow-up doll ever :laughing:

And it's a cross dresser :scared:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 03:43:32 PM
Yes it is but I didn't have much to work with:)

 :laughing:
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Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 06:38:11 PM
So I have been doing a lot of cleaning and purging in my shop this spring and I keep finding more of these wax cakes.
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Have some Bee keeper friends and they give me one every year. These are the dregs, bottom of the pot and apparently not very desirable. But it is exactly what I want because it has all the good stuff in it that is filtered out of the pretty salable wax. Specifically Propolis. If you don't know what Propolis is, check this out;     https://www.beeculture.com/propolis/

I melt and mix it with mineral oil for string wax, Neatsfoot oil for footwear and a variety of oils for chapped skin.

I currently have many more pounds of this than I will use in my lifetime and thought I would offer some up to whoever might want some. There is on caveat though, I am on a fixed income these days and too cheap to spring for the shipping. So if you are willing to send a 6X2.5" piece of green paper with a picture of Abe on it, I will send you a 6-8oz chunk of dark, dirty beeswax. Just know that you can probably get it much cheaper locally. But unless you know somebody, you might have a hard time finding this wonderful, nasty unfiltered stuff. If thats you, send me a PM and I will hook you up.
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Post by: Mad Max on May 13, 2021, 06:51:16 PM
how big is that cake?
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Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 07:30:06 PM
Its 5lbs
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Post by: Mad Max on May 13, 2021, 08:33:20 PM
I got a clean loaf pan full last year :tongue:
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Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 08:37:01 PM
I think Beekeepers are glad to have someone to take the dregs. Probably kills them to waste it.
 Max, do you have Bee's?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 08:53:33 PM
I think he has fleas...

 :laughing:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 13, 2021, 09:20:35 PM
There ya go get cha bees wax and treat the flea area. Day get stuck in it then you stab with ice pick. :biglaugh:

Anyhow I got two curve limbs glued today the riser drilled insert in and cut to shape and grip overlays one a one piece that's going to be a two piece.
No pics tho.
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Post by: Mad Max on May 13, 2021, 09:44:12 PM
I think Beekeepers are glad to have someone to take the dregs. Probably kills them to waste it.
 Max, do you have Bee's?

No, I took Penicillin to get rid of it :)
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Post by: Shredd on May 14, 2021, 12:47:40 AM
I'll take some... Maybe trade ya somthin for it..
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Post by: Eric Krewson on May 14, 2021, 08:41:43 AM
Melt them into 1# blocks and offer them on the St Jude Auction here, the listing has just opened. You could have the winner send you the shipping costs. I mailed a 1# package ( M/L round ball mold) yesterday, priority mail was $8.46, they don't do first class much anymore as it is often the same as priority. You get free boxes for priority as well, a flat rate box would be good for multiple pounds to one person.

If you do this be forewarned, CONUS only, nothing to Canada. I donated some books to the auction, the winners were in Canada, the books brought $30, seems like shipping to Canada was $45 out of my pocket, no media rate up there.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on May 14, 2021, 10:57:10 AM
I could use bees wax but I need it to be clean food grade. I mix it with mineral oil too for use on cutting boards, rolling pins, and such.

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Post by: Shredd on May 14, 2021, 11:02:35 AM
Nice looking kitchen stuff there, Junkman...   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2021, 11:25:42 AM
Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)

 :wavey: :laughing:
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Post by: Longcruise on May 14, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)

 :wavey: :laughing:

Would probably make his cheeks puffier.  :)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2021, 12:17:12 PM
OH don't tell him that...

Who knows where else he may apply it:)
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Post by: Buemaker on May 14, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
That cutting board looks too nice to be used.
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Post by: onetone on May 14, 2021, 03:50:46 PM
Nice kitchen implements BJ. When I was carving bowls, my finish consisted of organic flaxseed oil mixed 50/50 with beeswax. Makes a food safe finish, but application requires patience because multiple coats are required with curing time in between. Renders a rich deep finish when applied over time - the old European master woodworkers used it. This mix can also be used to waterproof boots and rain slickers!
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Post by: Flem on May 14, 2021, 04:48:38 PM
Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)

 :wavey: :laughing:

I though that was what Preparation H was for? 
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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 14, 2021, 05:52:41 PM
Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)

 :wavey: :laughing:

I though that was what Preparation H was for?
Try some on your tongue. It’s good for bad breath... 😉🤔😁
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2021, 06:28:50 PM
Nice job, Jeff....
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Post by: pditto613 on May 15, 2021, 03:16:08 AM
An old cabinet maker I worked with told me he never used plant/food based oils on cutting boards or butcher blocks because they could go rancid over time. Instead he used pharmaceutical grade mineral oil, the kind you take as a laxative.   Worked for me so far.
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Post by: pditto613 on May 15, 2021, 03:16:43 AM
Beautiful work, by the way.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 15, 2021, 06:52:06 AM
Pditto..

Instead he used pharmaceutical grade mineral oil, the kind you take as a laxative.   Worked for me so far.

I just spit coffee on my keyboard, Thanks..

 :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on May 15, 2021, 08:16:10 AM
Very nice cut board Jeff!!

Calm down Roy !!   :wavey:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 15, 2021, 08:34:44 AM
Morning sunshine:)
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Post by: kennym on May 15, 2021, 09:40:37 AM
Rain here today bro, and forecast for rest of month!  :help:
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Post by: Bowjunkie on May 15, 2021, 11:41:37 AM
Thanks fellas.

Yes, that's the mineral oil I used. Pharmaceutical grade. 1 to 4 ratio of beeswax to oil, melt in double boiler, stir occasionally as it cools into a paste. I haven't had it go rancid, and with the wax added it fills pores.

My wife has a bakery and I made some french rolling pins for her with Hophornbeam. Not fancy looking, but tough. Her and her workers love em.

That cutting board is black walnut, hard curly maple, padauk, and the dark strips are some Brazilian rosewood I've had laying around here for over 20 years.

Good change of pace from making bows and better than burning good wood I wouldn't have used otherwise. Wife wants me to sell them in her bakery. That's all I need. Lol
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Post by: Flem on May 15, 2021, 04:22:21 PM

"Yes, that's the mineral oil I used. Pharmaceutical grade. 1 to 4 ratio of beeswax to oil, melt in double boiler, stir occasionally as it cools into a paste. I haven't had it go rancid, and with the wax added it fills pores."

Thats the recipe and ratio I use for string wax.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 15, 2021, 06:31:49 PM
Got another curve going with more sycamore. The fsde tiller is still off on it but getting close. prolly gonna lose a pound or two. Limbs pretty much pulled straight right out of the box. I have had this string groove maker for awhile. Used it today on the curve
. Seems to work really well.
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(https://i.imgur.com/NlxizxF.jpg)
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Post by: kennym on May 15, 2021, 08:38:38 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 15, 2021, 10:05:34 PM
Forgot to say once you get the gizmo in place and snugged up just use a hacksaw blade to mark the limb. Then when you get it off a three corner file then the rat tail
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Post by: Shredd on May 16, 2021, 12:39:48 AM
Looks good Stic... Did you get the jig idea from me a couple of years back??  Looks similar but I think I might like yours better, marking it with a hack saw...
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Post by: Buemaker on May 16, 2021, 04:08:33 AM
Good idea.
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Post by: B-JS on May 16, 2021, 06:26:11 AM
Made the twins ready for shipping.
The 23# is finished with the rough clearcoat.
The 33# is finished with my smooth clearcoat.
One for mum and one for the daughter.

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Post by: onetone on May 16, 2021, 12:21:36 PM
Stic - I like your gizmo for locating string notches.
B-JS - Fine pair pair of bows.
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Post by: Buemaker on May 16, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
Good looking twins.
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Post by: Flem on May 16, 2021, 08:46:05 PM
I like that there are always so many ways to get to the same destination.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 16, 2021, 09:28:23 PM
Yeah Rich I got the idea from someone. You maybe can't remember. It's easier to use on longbow.
But had to try it on the curve.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 16, 2021, 09:34:34 PM
What you think too much ?
(https://i.imgur.com/liTuZBU.jpg)
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Post by: Shredd on May 16, 2021, 11:30:38 PM
Yeah Rich I got the idea from someone. You maybe can't remember. It's easier to use on longbow.
But had to try it on the curve.

  Yeah... It was back in the day... I remember you saying something like, cool idea, gotta try that... But I like your idea of marking wit a hacksaw vs I use a chainsaw file brazed to some flat stock s.s. ... 
Cool how we came together on the same idea and each learned something new and different...   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 17, 2021, 05:53:47 AM
Does look awful big, Mike.

Maybe a picture from a little farther back?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 17, 2021, 07:12:16 AM
Most of my stuff look bigger closeup  :bigsmyl:.
 But I will backup and take another.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 17, 2021, 07:56:19 AM
Most of my stuff look bigger closeup

Ya that did look to be 2 inches at least:)
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Post by: kennym on May 17, 2021, 08:56:59 AM
Stuff looks bigger held at arms length. Ain't ya never looked at a hunting magazine?

That may or may not work for ya... :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 17, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
LOL
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Post by: ztontonz on May 18, 2021, 03:30:48 PM
Spend the laqt couple weeks stocking up on nice bow and guitar wood. I think I should be good for a while now...
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 18, 2021, 04:03:02 PM
Bravely flung some arrows through the Cherry riser I grabbed by mistake.  :banghead: So far no broken Cherry! Leave that alone Roy!  :laughing:
I am tempted to mention the bare shafts but you would never get past that!
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 18, 2021, 04:05:24 PM
Shooting it before I go through all the trouble of sanding and finishing. Watching for any issues..  :archer2:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 18, 2021, 05:22:36 PM
I have my halo on today but wait till tomorrow.

Plus looks like you have other issues...

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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 18, 2021, 05:26:24 PM
I have my halo on today but wait till tomorrow.

Plus looks like you have other issues...


“I know what your problem is. You’re not getting enough fibre...”
Dave.
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Post by: Buemaker on May 18, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
Was it dark in there? :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 18, 2021, 09:09:15 PM
Bue me thinks Roy in the dark a lot  :biglaugh:

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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 12:49:58 PM
I don't use much EA-40, but I was needing some thick epoxy so I  grabbed it. This stuff is 4yrs old!
It's also still good!  I opened the hardener and after the initial stank evaporated in a minute, it had the normal Corn Nuts smell.
I'm using it in a non stress application, so even if it is compromised, which I doubt it is, it will not matter.
Don't throw the stuff away because its supposed to have gone "bad"
Like Mr.T said; "Rules are for Fools"
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 19, 2021, 04:22:15 PM
Mine is 2 years old and I worry about it...
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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 04:50:18 PM
If it's still good I'll let you know in 3hrs :shaka:
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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 05:59:48 PM
After 1hr @ 120-130deg
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I could barely get a finger print in it
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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 07:06:44 PM
Extra material popped cleanly out of the mixing container @ 2hrs
Already difficult to flex
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 19, 2021, 07:54:49 PM
Great news.
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Post by: Longcruise on May 19, 2021, 08:54:44 PM
Didn't Smooth-on recently modify their shelf life statement?
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Post by: kennym on May 19, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
Didn't Smooth-on recently modify their shelf life statement?

They told me 2 years now. That’s prob unopened but prob has a safety factor for them also.

What I use is never white like Flem tho
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 19, 2021, 09:12:05 PM
Two years on an open can.

A little hard maple some black dye Cactus juice some vacuum and curing heat.
And you can turn plain looking wood to look like something. And here is a further back shot of the big burrs.
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(https://i.imgur.com/YdYpLd4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qGVcaxP.jpg)
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Post by: Mad Max on May 19, 2021, 09:31:06 PM
Nice stic
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Post by: Mad Max on May 19, 2021, 09:35:53 PM
I got fired up @ the Classic looking at some of James Parkers bows.
I've made 1 BBI R/D from roy's setup.
I want to try a Recurve with Boo back and Ipe belly with maybe Boo flooring core with the riser built in.
(https://i.imgur.com/0yJUeJt.jpg)
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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 10:01:51 PM
Last observations on the vintage EA-40. Mine is white because I put 1 drop of colorant in it, which is more than maximum considering the amount of resin and theoretically should weaken the mix. Speaking of mix, I used a 2A/1B ratio.
After cooking @125deg for 3hrs and after cooling down to 76deg, I could not break this disc without more leverage than my thumbs and forefingers provide. It's about 60% of a 2.5"dia disc, maximum thickness of .070".


I would use this "old" glue to build a bow without hesitation
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Post by: Longcruise on May 19, 2021, 10:24:19 PM
I got fired up @ the Classic looking at some of James Parkers bows.
I've made 1 BBI R/D from roy's setup.
I want to try a Recurve with Boo back and Ipe belly with maybe Boo flooring core with the riser built in.
(https://i.imgur.com/0yJUeJt.jpg)

Elegant.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 04:05:45 AM
Mark that is a sweet looking profile..

Thanks Flem makes me feel better about my glue.

I use ea 40 mostly for tip overlays but sometimes to glue a riser on.

Mike they seem a little big to me but maybe not to others.

Sharp looking bow though.
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Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 08:10:06 AM
Stic, is that a farmer's bow?  Looks a little John Deere ish!

Flem that should be plenty strong...

Mark, that's gonna be cool!
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 20, 2021, 08:37:17 AM
Kenny never thought of it as being a farmer bow. Was a farmer growing up. We always said tractors were like watermelons Keep the Red and throw the Green away.

ROY big burrs may make good conversation.
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Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 08:41:51 AM
Mostly green around here. For a long time every red one for sale said good TA. bad TA, or needs TA...  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Flem on May 20, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
Was mostly green around here until this morning..........
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
Orange and green tractors here.

Orange one will pull that green one backwards:)

Looks nice, Flem.

I like the landscape around ya.

Ya have more pictures of your homestead?
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Post by: Flem on May 20, 2021, 11:02:52 AM
Same view from ground level. 10,000ft peaks hidden by trees
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Garden with a pair of hungry visitors
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 11:07:11 AM
Awesome......

I Elk hunted once in Helena Montana.
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Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 11:12:09 AM
Orange one is prob orange due to a stroke from tryin to hook onto  a green one ...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 03:31:51 PM
How's ya know dat Mr.?

See how well that orange tractor mows a clover field?

Ah JD would get stuck on a dandelion stock:)

LOL XO

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Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 04:51:13 PM
My lil lawnmower could mow that  :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 08:01:45 PM
Ifin id start...
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 20, 2021, 09:11:00 PM
Kenny we had 9 tractors when I was growing up. All red. One was a Massey Harris 45 had lots of power. I think the only on then that had a TA was the 560.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 20, 2021, 10:18:04 PM
Got this one done today. 41 @ 28. Wanted 45 but had to do quite a bit on bottom limb to get the tiller down to 1/8 th. That spinner bait rubber I got of hebay really works good. Using tiny zip ties to hold them on. I figure by the time I made it longer for a knot to tie them on and weight of the tie may be a bit less.
(https://i.imgur.com/ImFdfFW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YgyCOAQ.jpg)
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Post by: onetone on May 21, 2021, 12:30:25 AM
Hey Flem - many years ago I drove up thru Billings, MT to look at some land further north near Roundup. Sales agent said it was in the “banana belt” as part of his sales pitch! Turns out they call it the banana belt because it is 10 degrees warmer there in the winter than the rest of Montana! What a hoot!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 21, 2021, 07:41:37 AM
Thats an old, old, sales ploy around these parts. I can think of 5 "Banana Belts" I have heard of in Montana and Idaho.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 21, 2021, 11:16:17 AM
Paradise Valley?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 21, 2021, 11:44:59 AM
Tryin to get a new computer set up so if I don’t answer emails , hang on please....
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 21, 2021, 11:59:48 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on May 21, 2021, 01:15:04 PM
Got a new scale today, because my scale peaks at 110#.
Ordered a 600+# Scale at Amazon.
Aaaaand it's "expensive" cheap China crap.  :dunno:
Does Not start.
Can't measure my current 60" Hybrid 111#+ Project exactly.

What do you Guys use for 100#+?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: OldRawhide42 on May 21, 2021, 03:31:06 PM
One of the tractors the guys are talking about to pull it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 21, 2021, 07:10:45 PM
I got some work done on my swap bow and put two dozen arrows through it for the first time.
I also listed a few goodies on the St. Judes auction site. 😁
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on May 21, 2021, 08:07:42 PM
Geez...  The Bowyer Bench is blowing up...  Look at all those posts...  I can't keep up...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 21, 2021, 09:45:36 PM
Ole Rawhide  Green could not pull it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 21, 2021, 09:47:29 PM
For the first time today I put 2 hand stitched leather quivers on the St. Jude's auction, one a back quiver, the other a side stalker style.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 22, 2021, 04:12:26 AM
Thanks Pat, that's awesome.

I posted 2 different  threads yesterday for one dozen Sitka spruce shafts from True Shafts in British Columbia.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 09:23:19 AM
Sprayed another coat of poly on the the Cherry riser.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 09:24:34 AM
Now to sling arrars and hope....  :archer2:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 22, 2021, 09:29:15 AM
Tony, that is very damn nice..

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Post by: Flem on May 22, 2021, 09:31:59 AM
That Cherry looks awesome! Looks like you have good grain orientation, hope it holds together for you. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 22, 2021, 03:18:15 PM
A couple of layers of glass glued over the front of the riser where the shelf and sight window intersect would be good. Or even that stuff you have on the belly side.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 03:46:50 PM
Thanks guys, and thanks for the advice Stic, I could do that. I just put phenolic on the limb pads, I have several pieces laying around here, may get on that next week. Unfortunately what EA-40 glue I have is older than the feller I bought it from, and that’s old!
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 22, 2021, 06:32:35 PM
 :laughing: you mean Kennym
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Post by: kennym on May 22, 2021, 06:56:23 PM
Man , tough crowd when my computer is down ... :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 22, 2021, 07:58:21 PM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 10:20:07 PM
Well I wasn’t going to mention names, but..... yep.  :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 24, 2021, 06:32:49 PM
Fletched a few arras from Turkey feathers. Came from a friend’s spring Gobbler..
 How you all like my Spongebob table?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 24, 2021, 08:01:36 PM
It's very nice.

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 24, 2021, 10:29:36 PM
I like the table! :thumbsup: Did your Mom save that for when you moved out of the house? :laughing:

What's the hinge/jig looking thingy?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 24, 2021, 11:32:31 PM
Some of this high tech stuff is just above your heads!  :archer2:
That little hingy thingy holds feathers whilst I whittle and sand them.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 07:30:55 AM
That little hingy thingy holds feathers whilst I whittle and sand them.

I use the straight  Bitzenburger  clamp to sand the feathers.

But your red neck thingy works too:)

Like this thing Flem..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsl0LJvjij8

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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 25, 2021, 08:15:15 AM
Yep, that’s the thingy Roy. But I make a lot of things myself. Not as fancy but it works for me. A poor boy can survive!  :campfire:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 09:06:30 AM
Ya did good, I go through a lot of duct tape:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 25, 2021, 09:15:22 AM
I have a thingy also :bigsmyl: Mine is 2 pieces of 1/8" MDF and a spring clamp.
I was thinking C-Daddy might flip his over for a pic of the working side of his thingy
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 25, 2021, 09:20:26 AM
You asking the man to show you his thingy?!?!?   :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 09:30:50 AM
Flem, it's 2 hinges bolted together and prolly springs involved.

Evil, lol
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 25, 2021, 10:41:14 AM
Hell yeah! I want to see both sides of his thingy :laughing:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 25, 2021, 11:12:35 AM
Ain’t lifting my skirt tail no higher round this bunch!  :laughing:
Just couple old cabinet scrapers and door hinge. Little tape to help grip.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 25, 2021, 12:18:28 PM
I'll bet Flem is a lot of fun at parties  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 25, 2021, 04:39:36 PM
Probably a blast with a couple of beers in him...
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on May 25, 2021, 06:03:35 PM
I have never seen a Yew stave with so thin year rings. The outer part close to the back cannot even with s magnifying glass be counted. The sap wood was damaged so had to take it off. It is two billets spliced together with hide glue.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 25, 2021, 06:09:01 PM
That’s the finest grained wood I have ever seen. Are you going to back it?
Dave.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 25, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
I've heard that yew heartwood should be backed. I think rawhide would be enough.
 I bet that stave will make a snappy bow, Bue.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 25, 2021, 06:34:20 PM
Nice bue
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
Yew and Boo make a quick pretty bow.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bowjunkie on May 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PM
I'm guessing you didn't follow one ring for the back  :dunno: I might back it with deer rawhide if the back was clear and ring violations were minimal. Otherwise I'd probably flatten it and use maple, hickory, or bamboo. Hard maple looks similar to yew sapwood.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on May 26, 2021, 05:58:17 PM
Thanks for suggestions, I will back it with something. Perhaps moose sinew. It is at least 25 years since I cut the tree, so no rush. :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on May 26, 2021, 08:59:17 PM
Looking forward to seeing what you can do with moose sinew.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 26, 2021, 09:53:20 PM
25 years was long enough.
get the sinew wet :thumbsup:

Then we can watch Pat's and yours come together :)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 27, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
Got two going now. 52 in. curve and two piece longbow.
(https://i.imgur.com/rack4yg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eLFeHBo.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on May 27, 2021, 11:06:25 PM
I see someone is Kicking Arse...   Good job Sticster...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 28, 2021, 04:13:23 AM
Like the color combination Mike.
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Post by: Flem on May 28, 2021, 08:14:03 AM
Like the color combination Mike.

Ditto that :thumbsup:  What is the yellow wood?      I like bright and/ or shiny things :goldtooth:
Guess that makes me a Pack Rat :o
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on May 28, 2021, 02:50:03 PM
Wanted to try an other Taper at the Rover.....
Did result in slightly to high drawweight.  :banghead:
70#@28" and thats a 50" bow  :biglaugh:
Next days will Show, how much i can shave Off.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 28, 2021, 03:12:04 PM
Damn....
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Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2021, 04:47:08 PM
Waiting to see the full draw :thumbsup:
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Post by: Pat B on May 28, 2021, 04:56:09 PM
Those hooks are almost Duoflex hooks.  :o
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Post by: B-JS on May 28, 2021, 05:12:28 PM
But it's to short to Work "right". They don't really Open Up
Need to build the 2.0 Version that i have one the drawing Board.
Got two Taper Strips in this... They still Not Open Like i want.
Bow and hooks need to be longer.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2021, 05:20:27 PM
cut some off the tips for this one and see what it does.
2/3"? :thumbsup:
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Post by: B-JS on May 28, 2021, 05:31:41 PM
How should shortening IT make it better?
The lever has to be longer.
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Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2021, 05:38:21 PM
OK :thumbsup:
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Post by: Longcruise on May 28, 2021, 07:23:14 PM
'Specialy when it's overweight! 😀
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 28, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
Now that's a hooker for sure..
The yellow is Osage and some yellow dye in the wrap on the longbow and it came apart. With some KY. coffeebean veneers.
(https://i.imgur.com/P8fFbIa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qYdWxVG.jpg)
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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 28, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
It’s a good feeling when a two piece comes apart like it should. My first one gave me a hard time until I cracked it over my knee. 🙂
When it finally let go, there was no indication of what held it together.
Dave.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 28, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
A dead blow hammer and lay the sleeve on the table and womp it on all sides usally works. I did have to sand the sides of the tenon. This one was a bit too tight.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: mmattockx on May 29, 2021, 12:09:18 AM
Did result in slightly to high drawweight.  :banghead:
70#@28" and thats a 50" bow  :biglaugh:

Send it my way, I'll figure out how to draw a 70lb bow... :goldtooth:

Looks great but that is stout.


Damn....

+1


Mark
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on May 29, 2021, 07:56:09 AM
"Now that's a hooker for sure..
The yellow is Osage and some yellow dye in the wrap on the longbow and it came apart. With some KY. coffeebean veneers."

 
That Coffee Bean wood is beautiful :thumbsup: Never seen that before.
I have to admit when I read that post, I was pretty sure something to do with a hooker, came apart with KY
 :biglaugh:
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Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 08:12:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/3qpAo7Y.jpg)

I would not have had that much deflex coming off the fades ;)
So you have 2 tapers and it's still bending too much at the fades.
The lams need to be thicker coming out of the fades so they don't bend so much and help the hooks open up.
Let's say the tapers were .006 or .009 per inch, they would be thicker at the fades and thinner at the tips.
Or a long power wedge. Keep working at it :thumbsup:
Stic has some T/D with LONG butt wedges to help get the hooks opened up. :thumbsup:

50" NTN
(https://i.imgur.com/RaJlckf.jpg)

STIFF hooks with a long TIP wedge will push on mid limb to keep it from bending so much but your hooks want to open up if you get your design working for you.
No deflex at all on this bow
(https://i.imgur.com/34ZGgQn.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on May 29, 2021, 09:05:58 AM
Well.
The 2.0 is planned different.
54"ish way longer hooks and Close to Zero deflex.
This one is like it is.

The bow below is a static, isnt it?
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 09:09:12 AM
Yes
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Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 09:32:58 AM
What stack thickness? On the new one
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Post by: B-JS on May 29, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
It's (sorry for metric)
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
0,8mm Glass
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
0,8mm Glass
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
Riser is 30cm
Total length ttt is 127cm.
45mm wide.

IT was obious, IT will BE to strong, but i wantet to Test the Double Taper.
Have built  20ish of this 38mm wide with Just one Taper before in the range of 30-65#.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 29, 2021, 10:16:00 AM
Kenny made me a sled like the super lam only the wedge is on the butt end. Not sure what the taper is on the wedge part but .001 forward after thebutt wedge. May help your recurve open up.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:29:26 AM
I started a bow blank with a phenolic riser with 1/4” Pao Ferro scales . Will have walnut veneers and cores . Will glue riser up today ...

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:36:28 AM
Put overlays on 3 bow blanks I missed weight on last year , will finish em up I guess ...

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Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:46:11 AM
Roy, you can see I haven't perfected my daily autodumping bench just yet... :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
Same fellow sent a pic of the last one like it he just finished up on . Hope he doesn’t mind me posting it .

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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 29, 2021, 11:45:44 AM
I flipped em for ya..
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Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 11:49:00 AM
Thanks bud, my fone is unpredictable
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 29, 2021, 11:58:13 AM
I's know:)
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Post by: Flem on May 29, 2021, 11:59:57 AM
Thats some eye candy for sure :thumbsup:
Those joints are real tight, was that CNC'd?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 29, 2021, 01:06:16 PM
What type of phenolic is that. Cant see any of the fibers thru the finish
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Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 01:55:17 PM
Flem, if talkin about the bow, no CNC, just eyeballed it here and I think he finished by hand, said his shop wasn't heated so had to wait for spring. He did a fine job I think !

Mike, it is linen , you can see some lines in the sight window...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on May 29, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
Did some modifications.
Scraped a bit more of and reduced the brace from 7 to 6¼.
Hooks open up quite ok now.
Yesterday, it Hit the Wall at 27" and gained 5# to 28.
Now it's a bit under 3#.

https://youtu.be/6lsJIqK-BV8

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 02:17:37 PM
It's (sorry for metric)
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
0,8mm Glass
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
0,8mm Glass
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
Riser is 30cm
Total length ttt is 127cm.
45mm wide.

IT was obious, IT will BE to strong, but i wantet to Test the Double Taper.
Have built  20ish of this 38mm wide with Just one Taper before in the range of 30-65#.

 :thumbsup: Following
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bvas on May 30, 2021, 03:23:05 PM
Started cutting into some walnut crotch that I pulled out of the neighbors firewood pile.  :shaka:

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Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 30, 2021, 04:06:24 PM
Someone give this man a medal for saving that piece!
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Post by: onetone on May 30, 2021, 04:29:26 PM
B-JS Congrats! I think that is a fine looking shortie!

BVAS That is beautiful grain in that billet of walnut. Good find!
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on May 30, 2021, 05:16:42 PM
Nice Bvas
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 30, 2021, 05:54:43 PM
That middle piece looks good.
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Post by: Longcruise on May 30, 2021, 07:14:01 PM
What a great save! 👍

Raining and cold  🥶  an indoor day.

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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 30, 2021, 07:24:17 PM
That’s some pretty firewood.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 30, 2021, 08:32:53 PM
Nice looking crotch ya grabbed there Brad..

 :thumbsup:

Nice arrows Mike.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 02, 2021, 07:48:40 PM
Geesh I aint grabbin nothing round here.  :o
I finished the two piece today with leather grip and all. I really dont like doing leather grips. This one turned out pretty decent tho. The secret is about four coats of contact cement. Let them dry. then another coat on the bow and the leather and when that gets tacky apply to bow. Works pretty good on pliable leather.

(https://i.imgur.com/a9B8FqG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NPno5Bh.jpg)
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Post by: Longcruise on June 02, 2021, 08:36:56 PM
Nicely fitted. 
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Post by: wood carver 2 on June 02, 2021, 08:57:02 PM
Looks good.
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 03, 2021, 06:48:37 AM
Mike is that cow hide or deer hide?

Tanned Deer hide stretches real nice.

I spray the hide with 3M adhesive and put the hide on right away and get it positioned, let it sit for 10 minutes and stitch it up.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 03, 2021, 08:17:55 AM
Roy I got a bag of upholstery cutoffs off of the bay.
So cow hide. Yeah I got deer but wrong color.  Think sheep hide is about like deer to.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on June 03, 2021, 08:29:39 AM
Nice wrap job Stic :thumbsup:

Anybody that does leather wraps should consider burnishing the edges. Really finishes off the job, makes it look professional. Easy to do with a little wax.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on June 03, 2021, 09:04:35 AM
  Nice wrap Stic...

 How do you burnish ends, Flem?  Speaking of wax, weren't you giving some away?? I said was into it if you are still into it...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on June 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM
Its simple to burnish the edges of leather. First make sure you have a clean cut on soft leather, stiff leather can be cut smooth or lightly sanded. Then you can warm up your leather and/or wax and rub it into the edges. Then take a tool, most use a wood dowel looking thingy with a groove in it and rub the crap out of the edge until it looks, well.... Burnished!

I do still have some raw beeswax to give away to anybody who wants some for the cost of shipping.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on June 03, 2021, 09:49:46 AM
You can also wet it slightly and burnish with that dip part of a screw driver handle.   Then, before it dries burnish a little bit of school glue in. Do all this after you dye it if you are going to dye it.  The glue will block some dyes.  Except vinegaroon.  That goes around it.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on June 03, 2021, 01:33:00 PM


I do still have some raw beeswax to give away to anybody who wants some for the cost of shipping.

  Thanks Flem...  I did not think about shipping and I know 2 bee keepers...  I might just ask them for some wax...   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Flem on June 03, 2021, 01:55:08 PM
Ask them for the dregs. The bottom of the pot has the best stuff in it, but it's not real pretty. The beekeepers I know don't mind parting with the ugly stuff.

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 05, 2021, 10:13:14 AM
Thought I'd clean this up a tad:)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on June 05, 2021, 01:04:39 PM
DFC'ed my little 50" Recurve.
Up to 28" it's OK.
But above this, IT hits the wall.
But need to build a 45-50# Version with even more Taper to see If IT has real Potential.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on June 05, 2021, 01:25:51 PM
  Nice Curve...  Looks like you squeezed everything you could out of a 50" bow....   I wonder what it would look like at 52 or 54"...  Do you have pics of the bow??  Unstrung, Brace and 28" draw??
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on June 05, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
I want to Test even more Taper.

Pics Not optimal, but i think IT Shows the Essence.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on June 05, 2021, 01:46:16 PM
Wow, Bro...  That is some extreme engineering going on there...  How fast you spitting them arrows out at 10 gpp??
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 05, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: B-JS on June 05, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
Not really measured, yet.
Last try, i almost Killed my crony and ripped of the fletching of my heavy Arrow.
Need to eat my breakfast cereals to have Enough omph to pull the 65# Clean enough for propper chrony results.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 05:28:40 PM
Leather grips... I usually use deer leather and skive the top and bottom edges of the leather on the glue side, so it fades in thickness to almost nothing at the edge. When installed, it appears to roll or fade into the wood.

I spray the back of the leather with 3M spray adhesive, except for the last 3/8" or so where the stitching will be, then lay it on the bow. It never budges. Easier and more neat than the regular contact cement.

For the leather on the arrow shelf and side plate, I use 3M ATG transfer tape. Stays put through all weather but easily removed if ya want. Love that stuff.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 05:45:45 PM
Like this
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 05, 2021, 05:51:09 PM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 06:03:50 PM
Hi buddy  :wavey:

Picked up a few bowmaking tools at yard sales and antique stores yesterday. Got the drawknives fixed, cleaned, and just need sharpened now, then they'll be ready to go to work.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 05, 2021, 06:34:02 PM
Leather grips... I usually use deer leather and skive the top and bottom edges of the leather on the glue side, so it fades in thickness to almost nothing at the edge. When installed, it appears to roll or fade into the wood.



How do you do it ? I have tried but Not good
Can you show is what tool you use and how to? :pray:
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Post by: Flem on June 05, 2021, 07:54:18 PM
Like this

Very nice. Skiving Deer leather is an impressive skill :thumbsup:
I have only done it with a knife and on much heavier cow leather!

There are lots of good videos on leather working, this guy makes good ones.

https://youtu.be/ZKwoGWddOro
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 08:13:05 PM
I could Max. I could take some pics, but I'll try to explain it first. It only takes an additional 3-4 minutes. I use a razor sharp knife. Did it for years with a fillet knife, but that's kind of big. Now I use a little old Kutmaster muskrat knife, better control... carbon steel blade, gets sharp... whatever knife you use, it has to be very sharp. I like to strop them scary. And sometimes stop to strop it a few strokes as I'm working when I feel it needs it.... on a 3-4 minute job.

Lay the leather glue side up, on a hard smooth surface, like a piece of planed hardwood or cabinet grade plywood. I then lay that on my bandsaw table... good working height, shop light, and good access. With deer leather, which is thin, I start 1/8 to 3/16 back from the edge, and with the edge of the blade parallel to the edge of the leather, slice down at an angle in strokes, shaving the leather so that ultimately it looks sort of like the cutting edge of a single bevel broadhead.

It should be done so that if you look directly at the edge of the leather, there is virtually no flat edge left... it's 'sharp'... you've skived it to nothing, like a perfect fadeout.

Trick/tip: if in bringing it to the finest 'fadeout', the edge becomes uneven or has a tiny ragged spot or two, you can usually straighten the edge up with judicious use of a pair of very sharp scissors.

If you still think it'll help, I'll take some pics. No problem.



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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 08:23:20 PM
By the way, I also skive the arrow rest and side plate. Takes about a minute... and adds one more tiny touch of refinement. They add up.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 05, 2021, 08:28:47 PM
By the way, I also skive the arrow rest and side plate. Takes about a minute... and adds one more tiny touch of refinement. They add up.

When I tried it I got the scalloped edge, I do have some sharp knives and will strop them like you said and see.
I have Pig and deer leather.  Thanks
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 09:11:35 PM
By the way, I also skive the arrow rest and side plate. Takes about a minute... and adds one more tiny touch of refinement. They add up.

When I tried it I got the scalloped edge, I do have some sharp knives and will strop them like you said and see.
I have Pig and deer leather.  Thanks

Scalloped edge... hmmm, maybe the knife edge, or trying to get too close too quickly in too small an area, or using too curved a blade? I notice my 'scallops' tend to come when I use too much of the curved portion of the blade. My slices into the leather are as much longitudinal as they are downward. Like thinning a thick area of a hide if you're familiar with that.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 05, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
I'm sure the really sharp knife will help :thumbsup:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
Well I made it to 73 today...

And all the parts still work...

 :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on June 06, 2021, 09:02:22 AM
Happy birthday kiddo !
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 09:09:10 AM
Thanks Kenny
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Post by: Flem on June 06, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
Hey, Happy Birthday Roy! 

 And keep those parts to yourself :scared:
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Post by: Shredd on June 06, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
Good on yah... Happy Birthday...
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Post by: Mad Max on June 06, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
Happy birthday Roy
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Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 09:56:02 AM
Gratulerer med dagen. Pretty soon you will be as old as I.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 10:00:29 AM
Thanks guys.

I'm creeping up on 74, Bue:)
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Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
Tested a light weight recurve today. 37 lbs at 28» 185 feet. 9.7 gpp. That is okay.




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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
That's pretty decent, Bue..
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Post by: wood carver 2 on June 06, 2021, 10:20:24 AM
Happy birthday Pappy!
Dave.
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Post by: Shredd on June 06, 2021, 10:22:41 AM
That's purty good for a light weight bow... Did you change the design because of the light weight??  I have put tighter radius in the reflex to help the performance and since the limb is thinner I know it can handle the tighter curve...  I will be testing my target bow soon... it is also around 37#...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 10:25:52 AM
Thanks Dave
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Post by: Pat B on June 06, 2021, 10:59:49 AM
Happy Birthday, Roy.  :thumbsup:  You aren't getting older, you are getting better.(?)....maybe.  :laughing:
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Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 12:15:37 PM
I did not change design on this one. .002 taper.
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Post by: Longcruise on June 06, 2021, 12:45:38 PM
Happy birthday Roy.  Take it easy on the light. :)
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Post by: Crooked Stic on June 06, 2021, 12:59:38 PM
Happy birthday ole Roy.
You bout 3 mos. Older  :biglaugh:
Dem parts working prolly slower now days tho.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 01:13:07 PM
Thanks guys, yup things work a little slower.
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Post by: Pat B on June 06, 2021, 01:51:20 PM
...but at least they still work!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
Happy Birthday Roy!
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 05:24:42 PM
I had to cut up an apple tree today over at mom's that had fallen down. This is where I grew up and this was my grandfathers orchard. I couldn't count the number of deer I've seen under these trees over the last half century. Trees are almost a hundred years old and have been dying off. I'm trying to salvage some of this apple trunk for risers or something. Very heavy, and kind of pretty. Anybody ever use apple wood in a bow riser?

I'd like to get a big enough piece from one of the other trees to make lams for a glass bow, and maybe selfbow billets.

By the way, I've been grafting pieces of these apple trees to semidwarf rootstock and planting them here at my place. Kinda keeping grandpa's orchard alive.
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Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 05:39:43 PM
Apple wood is a beautiful hard wood, but tend to check badly. I would seal it with glue or wax and dry very carefully.
I once boiled it in water and that made it stable, but took away some of the beautiful color. But to answer your question, I have not used it in a riser, only to make nice knife handles. Polishes like glass.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 05:56:06 PM
Thanks for the heads up Bue. I sealed the ends with shellac and left it in my shop with the air conditioner and dehumidifier running! Yikes! I'm going to go back out there right now, seal the entire things, and move them to the garage. Thank you sir.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 05:56:22 PM
Thanks Jeff.

I have my eye on a pear tree here in the yard.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 08:28:21 PM
The color of this stuff is really cool, every piece is different, but it'll fade as it loses moisture. There's even some curl in a couple pieces.
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Post by: Shredd on June 06, 2021, 09:04:31 PM
  WoW...  Nice stuff...  If what Bue said is true...  If that stuff was live and wet would keep that stuff out side, sheltered from the rain or in your garage with no air control for at least 6 months or down to 20% MC before you start dropping humidity levels...  Maybe just seal the ends instead of whole piece...
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Post by: Bvas on June 06, 2021, 09:55:51 PM
Apple can vary drastically from one tree to the next.  But most Ive encountered is tougher than s**t. I’ve only used small pieces as ascents, but bet it would make a nice tough riser.

Just remember to save your scraps for the smoker. Adds excellent flavor to almost all meats  :goldtooth:
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Post by: bigbob2 on June 07, 2021, 01:44:09 AM
From my very limited experience, I believe most fruitwoods will make a good self bow too.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 07, 2021, 05:47:35 AM
Yes, it's very hard and heavy. Ripping it lengthwise with my saw was a bugger.

You know it Bvas, initially, that was my goal, remove the down tree for mom, and save as much as I could for the smoker. But I started thinking about its use for bows when I saw the color and density of the trunk.

There's part of another apple tree there that I've been eyeing up for a while. It's about 8 or 10" diameter and at least billet length, maybe full length staves. I'll probably cut it soon.
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Post by: Flem on June 07, 2021, 07:55:43 AM
Thats some beautiful Apple wood :thumbsup: It's one of the few hardwoods that I can harvest locally and I use it quite a bit. Mostly like Bvas stated, because my experience with it mirrors Bue's.
I know Jim Kneaves used to make bows with it. Might be a good candidate for stabilization.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 07, 2021, 08:01:46 AM
Welp, looks like an apple tree down in the field is gonna get a trimming:)

Jeff, main trunk and or thicker limbs ok?
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Post by: Mad Max on June 07, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
I got some walnut 24" long logs and sealed  the ends, cut into riser blanks and stacked with sticks in between and used bar clamps to keep the for warping.
something like this.

(https://i.imgur.com/1iE5fNN.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 07, 2021, 08:13:02 AM
That's awesome, Mark..
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Post by: Mad Max on June 07, 2021, 08:40:44 AM
That's awesome, Mark..

We use to make a lot of hard wood flooring down here in the south, they would stack it like that, but 4 or 5 high.
For a year I guess, then it was kiln dried and milled into tongue and groove floor.
Now days it's just the top layer on a filler. Many hard wood flooring yards went under

(https://i.imgur.com/iHHn24z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/S22Z5aP.jpg)
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Post by: mmattockx on June 07, 2021, 09:35:20 AM
Anybody ever use apple wood in a bow riser?

Nope, but my experience mirrors the others here about fruit woods making decent self bows and generally being very dense and hard. I had some pieces off an apple tree from a backyard and made chisel handles out of them. The 3 on the right are apple, the other 3 are cherry:

(https://i.imgur.com/rwWYL67.jpg)

If there is some nice grain in the wood you harvested I would use it for risers with no worries at all. I will also echo the comments about fruit wood checking easily.


Mark
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Post by: Longcruise on June 07, 2021, 10:12:33 AM
Plum is another good one.  I had one that winter killed and salvages some knife scales out of the larger trunk.  It wasn't big enough for riser or lams.  Has real pretty color and this one also had some curl.
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 07, 2021, 04:03:14 PM
Nice chisel handles Mark.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on June 07, 2021, 09:25:22 PM
Fixin to put this under clear glass.
(https://i.imgur.com/tG9m4uO.jpg)
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Post by: Mad Max on June 07, 2021, 10:07:11 PM
Is that vertical boo stic?
Always wanted to see it under clear glass
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 08, 2021, 05:37:49 AM
I'm guessing he was talking about the burl??
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 08, 2021, 05:38:38 AM
Mike that will look sharp as heck.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 08, 2021, 07:08:04 AM
Mike that will look sharp as heck.

The burl or the boo?  :laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 08, 2021, 07:25:03 AM
Dah boo....
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Post by: Crooked Stic on June 08, 2021, 12:23:03 PM
Max ya got to stain the boo or ya could leave it plain Jane
Never give this a lot of thought before. But rainy a damp here. And everything is 12 percent. MC glue or not.
Am thinking put it in the hot box for awhile first.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 08, 2021, 01:08:21 PM
Yep stic
It's been raining here 3 day and going to get at least 3 more days  :thumbsup:
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Post by: 4 point on June 08, 2021, 01:27:58 PM
Send some rain up north, we’ll take all we can get!
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Post by: Crooked Stic on June 08, 2021, 02:50:15 PM
Went ahead and heated everything up and glued. Gotwalnut burl degassing right now








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Post by: Crooked Stic on June 08, 2021, 08:17:16 PM
Somewhere we was talking about fragile veneers. This burl I got is .022 and wiggly like a wet noodle.
Seemed pretty tuff tho. Anyhow I buttered it up on top of a thicker lam and used that lam to flip it on to the buttered glass.Just make sure it don't slip around when you glue the other side and smear the glue in one direction.
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Post by: 4 point on June 09, 2021, 10:01:16 PM
Working on moving over to the dark side with a little coaching from Roy. Where is the best place to position the nodes? If I put one in the center I end up with nodes about 6 inches from the tips. If I center between nodes they end up on my fades.
(https://i.imgur.com/c4Uh7hx.jpg)
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Post by: Pat B on June 09, 2021, 10:13:56 PM
Nodes 6" from the tips wouldn't be bad.
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Post by: 4 point on June 09, 2021, 10:46:11 PM
Thanks Pat, I was thinking that would be better than on the fades.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 10, 2021, 04:33:58 AM
I try for equal spacing of the nodes in the limbs, so I'll move the center node up or down or the spacing between 2 nodes up or down within the riser area.

If a node falls within 2 inches of the tip, it gets cut off anyway when I cut the back of the boo off to put my tip overlays on.

Most times I'll have an equal number of nodes on each limb. All depends on the piece of boo and it's node spacing. If you look at your boo, the nodes on one end will be a little closer together than the other  end, not much though, maybe an inch different.

Most times I center the nodes an equal distance from the fades and see how things go, it's always different..

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Post by: OldRawhide42 on June 10, 2021, 08:15:08 AM
Crooked stic  that is a good tip . Thanks
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Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 08:44:26 AM
I try for equal spacing of the nodes in the limbs, so I'll move the center node up or down or the spacing between 2 nodes up or down within the riser area.

If a node falls within 2 inches of the tip, it gets cut off anyway when I cut the back of the boo off to put my tip overlays on.

Most times I'll have an equal number of nodes on each limb. All depends on the piece of boo and it's node spacing. If you look at your boo, the nodes on one end will be a little closer together than the other  end, not much though, maybe an inch different.

Most times I center the nodes an equal distance from the fades and see how things go, it's always different..

When you get a uncooperative boo slat have you ever cut and splice it back together in the handle area Roy?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 10, 2021, 08:55:09 AM
Yes more than once.
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Post by: kennym on June 10, 2021, 08:59:36 AM
So if ya turn one end for end, it makes the node spacing better too?
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Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 09:00:45 AM
Working on moving over to the dark side with a little coaching from Roy. Where is the best place to position the nodes? If I put one in the center I end up with nodes about 6 inches from the tips. If I center between nodes they end up on my fades.
(https://i.imgur.com/c4Uh7hx.jpg)

What kind of belly and core 4point and how long?
I've mad 3, they shoot fast too :thumbsup:
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Post by: 4 point on June 10, 2021, 09:20:27 AM
Thanks Roy, this piece spaces them out nice with one node in the center.

Max, I’m trying a walnut core and a mulberry belly just because I had some laying around. I’m gonna get some Osage and use a maple core in the next one. This one is a learning tool. It’s gonna be 65 inches nock to nock.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 10:15:27 AM
If your going to the dark side you may as well do a odd NTN :laughing:
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Post by: 4 point on June 10, 2021, 11:04:16 AM
Odd fits me. I wanted to go 66 but I had a couple knots I had to work around and couldn’t go that long
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Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 11:27:26 AM
 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bowjunkie on June 10, 2021, 12:37:39 PM
Isn't it odd how bow lengths are always even?
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Post by: Longcruise on June 10, 2021, 01:59:34 PM
Isn't it odd how bow lengths are always even?

Some of mine aren't,  but it wasn't intentional! 😀
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 06:29:49 AM
Some of mine aren't,  but it wasn't intentional!

I can relate to that, Mike:)
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Post by: Shredd on June 11, 2021, 06:46:02 AM
When I make a bow it usually starts out even inches... Then I adjust the size to fit the string to the nearest inch...  Some of my bows take a 61" string while others take a 62" string...  It's more important to me to let the bow be the bow... That's why I don't like to make custom bows...  I like the bow to come out the poundage it's supposed to be and not make it a little thicker or thinner to make weight....
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Post by: Longcruise on June 11, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
Quote
I like the bow to come out the poundage it's supposed to be and not make it a little thicker or thinner to make weight.... 

I'm the same way except I fit the string to the bow.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 09:40:37 AM
Rich that doesn't make any sense to me.

You want the bow to be the bow, yet you shorten the bow to fit a particular string length?

So are you making the bow shorter to attain the weight you want?
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Post by: Flem on June 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Isn't it odd how bow lengths are always even?

You think thats odd, I use Phi (golden ratio) to determine as many measurements as possible :campfire:
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Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 09:54:36 AM
If you want to go AMO on your bows, Yes roy
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 10:20:49 AM
AMO does what?

Some fancy word for bow length?

 :laughing:
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Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2021, 11:42:50 AM
Use a bowyers knot on your string, make your bow and adjust the string to fit. Easy peezy!  ;)
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Post by: Flem on June 11, 2021, 11:54:45 AM
Use a bowyers knot on your string, make your bow and adjust the string to fit. Easy peezy!  ;)
:thumbsup:

Even if you don't use a timber hitch as a primary string knot, it's definitely the way to go for a backup string out in the woods.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
Well, how should you measure a bow's length? Is it the un-strung length as the crow flies, do you follow the curve of the limbs, should it be strung?

AMO stands for the Archery Manufacturers Organization. It created a set of standards for things such as defining bow length. When people give a length of a bow in inches they almost always mean AMO bow length. AMO bow length is the length of the string plus 3 inches. So a 66 inch AMO bow is supposed to take a 63 inch string. But, some people sell strings by "AMO" length rather than actual length, so your AMO 66 inch bow takes an AMO 66 inch string (actual length 63 inches). And, not all bows take a string exactly 3 inches less than the printed bow length. And some bows, especially English Longbows, are measured at their un-strung length.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 12:59:53 PM
Been bow hunting for 50 years, making bows for 20 years.

Never had to worry about amo.

I use a tape measure and a string jig.

And the bowyers knot works too.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 01:05:11 PM
I don’t either
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Post by: wood carver 2 on June 11, 2021, 02:46:12 PM
I just keep making strings until one fits... 😜🤔
Dave.
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Post by: Buemaker on June 11, 2021, 04:12:02 PM
Steaming Yew tonite.
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Post by: Longcruise on June 11, 2021, 04:25:17 PM
I just keep making strings until one fits... 😜🤔
Dave.

Been there,  done that.  :)
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Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
Nice, Bue. Is it gonna be an ELB?
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Post by: Buemaker on June 11, 2021, 06:24:21 PM
Pat. A bit more shallow crosssection than an ELB and no horns. That is what the fellow wants.
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Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 06:31:49 PM
watching bue :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
Looking forward to your progress.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buemaker on June 12, 2021, 11:11:03 AM
Small experiment. Yew staves sometimes have some black porous knots that have to me taken out. If the knot goes in at 90 degrees it kan be drilled out and plugged with a Yew plug. But if it goes in at an angle it is not suitable to drill a hole. I have then filled the hole with sinew thread plug saturated in hide glue. When plug is cured I figure it will be harder than the wood it self.(have not been a problem though) So today I made a sinew plug and a strip of hide glue and then I added 5% by dry glue weight glycerin and did the same. When it has cured we shall see if the glyserin mix is a bit softer and flexible. Well, I have to fill my day with something important. :biglaugh:
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Post by: Shredd on June 12, 2021, 03:31:44 PM
  Learning chit and stuff...
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 12, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I cut grass and weed whacked.
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Post by: Buemaker on June 12, 2021, 05:54:19 PM
Midnight behind our house. I just love the long summer evenings.Two deer was just 50 yards into the field, but went into the trees before I was able to take the picture
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Post by: Mad Max on June 12, 2021, 06:50:21 PM
What kind of deer do you have bue? and how much do they weight?
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Post by: Longcruise on June 12, 2021, 07:10:54 PM
Took a grandson to a kids fishing contest.  He's 14 and this is his last year he can participate.   HOT 🔥 Fish are uncooperative.  A bald eagle circled overhead.  He had no luck either.   The pelican seemed to be doing alright.

One of my dad's quotes from when I was a kid:  "A very strange bird is the pelican,  it's beak holds more than it's bellycan"

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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 12, 2021, 09:37:41 PM
Nice Mike.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Shredd on June 12, 2021, 11:26:35 PM
You got pelicans in Colorado??  I thought they were a coastal bird...
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: onetone on June 13, 2021, 05:05:10 AM
Is that lake in the Laramie River drainage? I’ve white fresh water pelicans there,
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Mad Max on June 13, 2021, 07:13:33 AM
we have costal water in Mississippi, 4 reservoir and the Mississippi river.
Pelicans in all 5, Bald Eagles too

(https://i.imgur.com/mwsjV1b.jpg)
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Buemaker on June 13, 2021, 07:34:39 AM
Max. Besides moose and reindeer(karibou) we have two deer species. Capreolus capreolus weight 25-45 kg and Cervus elaphus large male 250-300 kg, female 120-180 kg. The two I saw last night was the small ones.
Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Longcruise on June 13, 2021, 10:40:28 AM
The lake is a few miles west of my home in Arvada in the Denver metro area.   It’s fed by a smallish creek and is part of the Arvada water supply.

These white pelicans are pretty common in Colorado.   They are larger than the brown coastal pelicans.   The journals of Lewis & Clark note that one of the hunters killed a pelican on the Missouri River.  They ate it.  :)

Title: Re: 2021 what did you do today?
Post by: Pat B on June 13, 2021, 11:49:05 AM
They also ate 15# of lean meat each every day and almost starved to death. They would have been better eating fish like the locals did for the fat content.