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What would cause this..
« on: July 21, 2019, 06:17:16 PM »
What's up guys, was out shooting my widow in the yard today and about 20 shots in i draw back and my string literally pops off the bow i believe off the top limb nock. Scared the hell out of me but the bow looks fine. At first i thought maybe the limb was twisted but they both look fine and i strung it back up and it looked like both limbs were tracking straight. I've shot traditional bows for 15 years and I've never had this happen. Nor heard of it happening. Does anyone have a clue as to what could have caused this and how to keep it from happening. I can't imagine having this happen when drawing on a deer lol. Bythe way the bow is only a few months old. Thanks! 

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2019, 06:31:43 PM »
Possible that the string was not seated well in both string grooves.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2019, 06:56:09 PM »
Thanks for the reply Roy. Im not questioning your expertise but i find it odd that it wasn't seated, I was actually shooting the bow yesterday with no problems and just left it strung over night. Do you think it's possible to torque the bow so much that it would pull the string off the grooves? 

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2019, 07:03:37 PM »
I thought you just strung it up.

Take a lot of torque to do that.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2019, 07:13:51 PM »
No i had it strung from the day before. 

And i was thinking the same thing on the torque. Puzzles me and makes me scared to shoot it.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2019, 08:56:10 PM »
Have someone watch as you draw it to see what is happening at the tips.  Wear safety glasses.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2019, 09:28:32 PM »
Two things I know that can cause that. The string not on right or something is happening when you draw. As mentioned have someone watch when you draw. If it happens again I would be calling BW they may want to check it out for you.
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2019, 10:32:19 PM »
Wonder if the wrong brace height would cause that.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2019, 10:52:45 PM »
Possibilities:
 Partial string break
 string not seated in groves
 limb twisted
 twisting string hand on draw (only seen it with very low poundage bows)
ultra low/high brace height (way outside recommendations)
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2019, 11:44:06 PM »
I've seen this before.  It's usually caused by torquing the string and/or the bow enough that the limbs twist at full draw and dump the string.  If the limbs are not twisted at brace height now, they soon will be if this is continued.  To avoid this, consciously rotate your string hand in a clockwise direction (RH shooter) before you start your draw until you can feel pressure against your ring finger from the string, and try to maintain this orientation during the draw.  Hold the bow very loosely in your bow hand, gripping only with your thumb and index finger.  Sight down the bow every time you string it from each end.  If either end is twisted, twist it back in the opposite direction until it is straight.  It will probably stay straight as long as it's not torqued or strung incorrectly.
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2019, 08:36:15 AM »
What Mcdave said
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2019, 08:40:46 AM »
Also check the string grooves and make sure they are all cut in deep enough.

A too low of brace height could cause it also.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2019, 08:49:20 AM »
I have had this happen on a Widow no less. It was a Demo bow I had got in to try out. Put it together, strung her up, looked her over, all looked good.

Went out back started shooting and maybe a couple dozen shots in drew back and at release felts  the most awful handshock and weird sound.

Without moving my bow arm, (not sure if it was from fear of seeing a shatter bow or bodily harm) I surveyed the situation.

No noticeable bow damage or bodily injury 😊 just a newer faster heart rate.

Had to do a grid search of the yard to find the string, and I also caught it on video as I was filming my shooting for form improvements.

When strung back up the upper limb had a noticeable twist that I don’t remember being there when putting it together.

After reviewing the film it appeared I was torquing and pulling the string away from my face at release instead of straight back. An issue I still battle today. The bow was a 50#@28” draw.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2019, 09:42:16 AM »
That is a real coincidence. I was warming up for a 3D at a local club yesterday, when I heard a loud whack next to me.
There a guy stood with his longbow in his hand, and the string hanging from the bot. limb. It came off when he released his arrow. I had never seen that before. He said that he didn't either. I did notice that the string loops looked pretty big on both ends. He strung it back up, and checked fistmele, and proceeded to shoot again with no further problem.
The only thing that seemed odd, was that he had very little twist in his string.
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2019, 09:59:20 AM »
Many archers do not realize what the string does when it is released. If you watch one on high speed film, you will see the oscillations the string goes through. Wouldn't surprise me if there was some problem with the string (length, not twisted enough etc.) and it just simply jumped out of the groove or some such.
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2019, 11:31:39 AM »
It's just weird boys, i haven't had the string long enough for it to be worn and it was furnished with the bow when i got it from black widow. The limbs are 48#@28. Which is the lightest limbs i own. The only thing i can think is that maybe not being used to the light limbs i might have induced too much torque.

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2019, 01:21:25 PM »
I would consider all the things that everybody has suggested, but I would still consult with BW.
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2019, 07:48:14 PM »
Get a different string and make sure your limbs are not twisting when you draw.
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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2019, 04:37:29 AM »
Did it come off as you shot, or as you were drawing back?

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Re: What would cause this..
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2019, 04:41:17 AM »
As he was drawing back.

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