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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2019, 01:26:27 PM »
I had to laugh at that one Dave.  I couldn't keep track either.   :)     I had to take a pencil and write it down as I went along. 
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2019, 02:34:54 PM »
Yep, me too.   :biglaugh: Gettin' old may have something to do with it for me.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2019, 07:07:28 PM »
Jim,
First of all, thank you for your generosity. It seems like you are helping a whole bunch of archers out of the goodness of your heart.
I have a question, though. I will not be able to go out past 15 yards until the spring, and want to begin as soon as possible. Should I wait, or can I just alter the drills for my available inside distances?


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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2019, 09:14:03 PM »
Yeah, I don’t think there's a problem at all starting at that distance.  I believe when the weather breaks, just continue the drills at the longer distances.  You’ll know how your confidence and progress is by that time and have to tools to keep the demon at bay.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2019, 04:55:29 PM »
I hope to go through this program after my Florida hog hunt in February. Sounds like a GREAT program.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2019, 07:02:56 PM »
Just bit the bullet (or arrow to be more relevant) and did the first day of the program. Was holding off because I just got a brand-new custom recurve from Black Ram Traditions and am seriously smitten with this bow. Any hoo, it feels odd to be able to not have the string release without my permission. It has felt as if someone is inside of my head making my fingers release the string. This evening that person was absent. I like this.  :thumbsup:
Thanks, again, Jim.
For the record, After finishing the program for the night, I did come upstairs and hug my new bow.

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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2019, 10:14:42 AM »
I know the feeling of being able to just hold and relax...I am now at day 51 of Jim's program.  I hope you haven't started with too much bow weight.  Going with a light draw weight has helped me substantially and now I have moved up some more.  Take your time, be patient, and you'll be surprised. :goldtooth:
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2019, 04:45:59 PM »
Jim is away this week on a hog hunt in Florida and asked me to forward the program info along to anyone who wants to start it.  I am a satisfied client myself.  :jumper: Just drop me an email if I may be of assistance--dmitchell43@suddenlink.net.  Good shooting  :archer2: and I wish Jim the best of hunting.
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2019, 01:31:42 PM »
I’m on day 10 now, and enjoying the program.  My only question is that up to this point, the instructions say to make my first draws at 3 yards.  If I literally draw at 3 yards, I have to move my arrow out of the way of the target when I start my draw, so I have been standing back far enough to get sufficient clearance to draw the arrow normally, which is about 4 yards.  Is that okay or is there something magic about3 yards?
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2019, 02:35:42 PM »
Dave, nothing magic about three yards, but if you go back and check it starts at three feet.  No I'm sure Jim would tell you that no harm will be done if you start at enough distance to give you room to draw. But I am shooting full length arrows and drawing 30 1/2" and still managed to do the three feet distance.  It's a fail-safe distance I guess is what Jim has in mind.  Proceed. :wavey:
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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2019, 03:16:00 PM »
Sorry, you’re right.  I meant feet, not yards.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2019, 08:06:24 PM »
 :thumbsup: :archer:
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2019, 10:05:58 PM »
I emailed you David.  Looking forward to hearing from you.  This is a very interesting concept.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2019, 11:03:13 AM »
Blaine, start as prescribed and stick with it.  You may be tempted to take a few short cuts and feel that some of it is not all that necessary, but avoid the temptation.  Relax, enjoy the process, and I honestly believe you will be very happy.  I know I am and I have struggled with "the demon" as Jim calls it for years, did the Joel Turner seminar, read Jay Kidwell's book, etc.  Nothing helped me like this.  It's a bit like going back to "elementary" school at first, you may think.  But just stay the course and you will graduate. :biglaugh:
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2019, 07:13:10 PM »
 :pray:   Just finished day 4. It's very easy. It feels really nice to feel my anchor, back tension, and the feather against my nose. I wish I'd started with this from my first day as a trad archer. The only negative is that I really miss shooting arrows. I sure hope this works.  :pray:
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2019, 07:41:54 PM »
It will work, just be patient.  The day you can shoot an arrow will come faster than you think it will.  In the meantime, just enjoy the feeling of being at full draw, setting your back tension, and not having that uncontrollable urge to let it go. I did day 55 today.  It sure feels good to be able to stand 30 yards away from a target and get to full draw and have a controlled shot.   :archer2:
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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2019, 10:56:52 AM »
I am enjoying the process so far.  One thing that is helping me, and might help others who dread the thought of drawing so many times without shooting very many arrows, is the knowledge that studies have shown that it usually takes 60 days (or more in some cases) to change a habit.  That means 60 days of arriving at full draw and aiming while feeling relaxed and under control to replace the habit of reaching full draw feeling compelled to release the arrow like it was a live wire.  So a 63 day program should be about right. Any claim of being able to change a strongly held bad habit, like smoking, overeating, etc., in less than 60 days is just hype.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2019, 12:26:24 PM »
McDave is absolutely right.  I just came in from doing my day 56 drills--shooting at 30 yards without TP is such a joy and well worth the patience to do the program as spelled out.  To those who are on it, stay the course.  You'll be very glad you sacrificed the time and the shooting of a few arrows to wait until the time for that.
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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2019, 09:55:01 AM »
I don't have clue how I double posted.


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Re: Beat Target Panic (Maybe?)
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2019, 09:59:34 AM »
Only an archer plagued with the dreaded demon of target panic could understand and appreciate the next few lines. 

I have just returned from a pig hunt in Florida; this was my 15th year in a row going with Osceola Outfitters.  It was a cool morning as I moved in on a large, lone sow.  I worked in to 15 yards and had to move slightly to my left from behind the huge palmetto to get a clear shot. As I took that step, the sow looked at me and turned slightly quartering to me.  I could clearly see the seam between her neck and shoulder; I knew the anatomy, I knew how much room I had and I was confident in my ability to make the shot.

As I drew the bow, I went through my shot sequence; draw, anchor, set my back tension, keep pulling and admire the sight picture.  Then, the shot was off and the carbon arrow tipped with 260 grains of Grizzly broadhead was off, found its mark and buried deep in to her chest. She took two steps and fell dead.

This is the first time I have had a “pressure" shot since I completed the drills.  The report is a short one:  Complete control with no anxiety or apprehension--ROCK SOLID!  The first CONTROLLED shot in decades!

I shot two pigs on this trip; the results were the same with #2.

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