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« on: December 10, 2018, 10:38:24 AM »
http://nj1015.com/nj-considering-these-ideas-to-reduce-deer-epidemic/

NJ considering these ideas to reduce ‘deer epidemic’

by MICHAEL SYMONS

Urged on by farmers, some lawmakers want to develop a package of bills in the new year aimed at reducing the number of deer in New Jersey.

They say the deer population has become a public safety problem the leads to thousands of car crashes, a public health problem that increases cases of Lyme disease and millions of dollars a year in losses for agriculture.

“There is no easy answer of how to take care of this issue,” said Assemblyman Bob Andrzejczak, D-Cape May, chairman of the Assembly Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee. “It’s going to take more than just one answer.”

Ryck Suydam, president of the New Jersey Farm Bureau, said farmers are screaming for something to be done about deer, which cause over $10,000 a year in damage to more than one-third of farms surveyed, with 5 percent tallying the damage at over $50,000.

“The white-tail deer has become an epidemic,” Suydam said. “That’s a tough word, but if you drive a car in New Jersey, I think you’re going to agree with me.”

AAA data shows there are over 30,000 collisions a year between deer and cars reported in New Jersey, said Audubon Society vice president Kelly Mooij, who added that many other crashes probably go unreported. Deer are also wrecking the understory in forests, she said.

“We do need to work with our towns and counties to make sure that we are not providing refuges in certain areas for deer but rather managing our land, particularly land that is preserved with money from the state, to address this significant ecological concern,” Mooij said.

The Farm Bureau is now working on studies using drones to estimate the deer population in the state. It says about 15 to 20 deer per square mile is considered sustainable but that parts of New Jersey now have between 120 and 140 deer per square mile.

“It’s not just farms,” Suydam said. “It’s health, it’s homeowners, it’s automobiles. The only guys who want these deer are auto-body repair shops. God love them. They work hard.”

Deer have no natural predators left in New Jersey. And when they thrive on the state’s farms and lush suburbs, that drives us their fertility rates.

However, said New Jersey state director Brian Hackett of the Humane Society of the United States, a hunting-only plan would surely fail.

“Deer from the surrounding areas that were hunted may take advantage of any vacated niche,” Hackett said. “This combined with a high reproductive rate can lead to deer numbers bouncing back quite quickly.”

Hackett said it’s better to try to reduce deer conflicts, not deer numbers. He said the number of crashes involving deer can be reduced by increasing awareness and caution among drivers or by installing reflective devices that warn deer of oncoming cars. ... (Rob DiStefano - what total nonsense!!!!  Hackett is yet another clueless bureaucrat.)

Doris Lin, vice president of legal affairs for the League of Humane Voters of New Jersey, said the unspoken problem is that the state Division of Fish and Wildlife intentionally increases the deer population for hunters because its federal funding is tied to the number of permits it sells.

“We recommend ovariectomies. It’s a surgical sterilization of the female deer that removes the ovaries,” Lin said. “It has an advantage over tubal ligation because with the tubal ligation, the females don’t get pregnant but they still go into heat. And when they go into heat, they increase males to the area. And that will increase your local deer population.”

Assemblyman Parker Space, R-Sussex, seemed skeptical of that approach, in part because each 20-minute operation costs $1,000 to $1,200, though Lin said it can be lowered using volunteers.

Space said there’s an economic benefit to hunting – for diners, gas stations, sport shops, butchers and taxidermists.

“So it’s a win-win situation. You’re harvesting your deer, you’re controlling your population, you’re feeding the people and also you’re supporting all your local businesses,” Space said.

Suydam says hunting alone can’t solve the problem, though he suggested it would help if hunters were allowed to sell their venison.

“If a person knew they could go hunting, take a couple of does and know they could make a couple of hundred bucks because they could sell the venison, this problem would clean up much quicker,” Suydam said.

Short of venison sales, the state could support venison donation programs, said Mitchell Jones, a member of the State Board of Agriculture. Hunters Helping the Hungry received two state grants more than 15 years but relied on private donations since then.

“A lot of the hunters that I talk to, they don’t like to waste the deer, but they can only eat so many,” Jones said. “If they go out and get their two or three deer, fill their freezer, they’d be happy to hunt if there was something to do with the other deer.”

Since 1997, hunters in New Jersey have donated more than 228 tons of venison to food banks, providing more than 1.8 million meals, according to the Division of Fish and Wildlife. Last hunting season, 809 deer were donated.

Suydam also suggested that the state have fewer hunting zones. He said the state has more than 60 zones currently, each needing a separate permit. He said Maryland has two zones.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2018, 08:46:31 AM »
My townships solution to the deer population is to hire White buffalo INC. if I remember correct 176 deer at 400 plus each to the tax payer while we buy hunting licenses that can only be used on state land, if you don't own land. Why we as bowhunters can't pass a sharpshooter class and be allowed to access to these places. If you look up that company it is as bad as it gets plastic bags over their heads to finish the job

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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2018, 09:01:00 AM »
My townships solution to the deer population is to hire White buffalo INC. if I remember correct 176 deer at 400 plus each to the tax payer while we buy hunting licenses that can only be used on state land, if you don't own land. Why we as bowhunters can't pass a sharpshooter class and be allowed to access to these places. If you look up that company it is as bad as it gets plastic bags over their heads to finish the job

the insanity of jersey politics.  can't wait to escape this hell hole.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2018, 09:59:28 AM »
I'm out next year

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2018, 10:03:06 AM »
I'm out next year

i'm jealous ... i have at least a few more years of this purgatory .........
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 10:35:29 AM »
If the farmer would allow good folks to hunt more often that would help that area, but to complain and we kill more on state land does not seam to help him much. want to solve your problem post a ad here we will help

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2018, 10:38:58 AM »
The truly sad thing about all this is that none of that is about fixing the problem and all about political maneuvering and ultimately money!  The deer are just following the food sources and in urban areas, those are around homes, especially, in more affluent areas where the homeowner has more acreage.  Even in rural areas like the Gap or Stokes as your driving in the deer are in peoples backyards at their bird feeders or eating their plants and shrubs. 

The 150 ft rule was a good start but we need programs as they have in other states like Pittsburgh where bowhunters work with the homeowners to hunt their property and reduce the deer numbers.  As the population increases and the available land for wildlife decreases the deer creep closer and closer to the houses and avoid hunting pressure.  I have hunted many areas and again on the drive out at the end of the seen more deer on the way home than hunting!

Another aspect that was not brought up here but I think will impact us as hunters in a big way is Governor Murphy's affiliation with groups like the Humane Society and his open opposition to all forms of hunting.  This puts politics squarely in the driver's seat, not sound game management, in determining the best course of action for our deer herds.  When emotion, not science, is allowed to dictate the best plan of action for the deer it will always be a disaster because they put their personal feelings above the welfare of the deer!

Like you fine gentleman, I am going to be exiting New Jersey as soon as possible myself for many reasons but mostly because I disagree with many of the policies pertaining to hunting.  I guess someone else besides us will have to turn the light off when they leave because we'll already be gone.

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2018, 11:33:17 AM »
yes, jersey now has a "pseudo feely touchy" left wing progressive liberal governor who is that way because he has eyes on DC.  not to mention his stance on gun control and the new 10+ round magazine ban that now includes everyone in law enforcement.   or that he wants an increase in taxes this year.  jersey is not the state to be in, which is a state of corrupt left wing politics and punishment after punishment for its citizens.
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