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Author Topic: Preferred trail runners?  (Read 497 times)

Offline jvs9932

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Preferred trail runners?
« on: August 12, 2018, 11:51:12 PM »
Hey all,

I own an outstanding pair of Kenetrek boots for the rugged and cold stuff. I’m interested in getting some high or mid-top trail runners for warmer weather hunts like we have here in CA. I am particularly fond of “zero drop” shoes like those made by Altra. I want to get a pair that will take gaiters and while the zero drop design is super comfortable it generally means the shoe has very little (if any) difference in size between the heel and the rest of the sole so I’m not sure how well a gaiter would work with them.

Do any of you have any recommendations?

Thanks!
John
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Offline Tim in Wa.

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 08:14:05 AM »
I'm trying Hoka right now

Offline jvs9932

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 08:34:57 AM »
How do you like them? Are you using gaiters with them?
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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 08:37:52 AM »
Take a look at Salomon shoes. Check out the Quest boot or the X Ultra Mid Aero.

Offline jvs9932

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 08:41:19 AM »
Thanks!
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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 10:09:25 AM »
Altra Paradigm 4.0.  If you like the zero drop and want a stable high cushion shoe, I do not think you will go wrong with these.   The 3.0 are NOT GOOD, very mushy on side hill walking or running.  4.0 are great.  I am leaning towards hunting in trail runners also this season before it gets cold.   
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Offline jvs9932

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 11:44:46 AM »
Awesome. I’ll check them out!
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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 12:03:45 PM »
I’ve hunted in Brooks Cascadia’s the last few seasons.  Best fabric design I’ve found in a low top for keeping out as much grass seed/stickers as possible while still being cool and breathable. 

I use a low gaiter to cover the laces/ankles, it’s from OR, and comes with little velcro tabs that you can stick to the heels and it keeps the gaiters down.  They’re light and only good for debris, not moisture, but snow isn’t when I’m hunting in trail runners.  Pretty good, the velcro will stay on a season if it’s put on a cleaned section of the heel rubber

Offline YosemiteSam

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2018, 01:08:09 PM »
I'm a runner and run in those goofy vibram toe-shoes almost exclusively.  I did a trail 50k several years ago and did a fast 50-mile weekend with a buddy up in Yosemite a couple years ago -- all in vibrams.  I've worn through the soles of at least 6 pairs by now.  When on trails, I use Dirty Girl gaiters.

While I would like to hunt with the Vibrams (and have a few times), I've found that off-trail hiking requires something sturdier, more water resistant and secure against brush.  I've been using my Tactical Research Mini-Mil boots for hunting for the last few years.  While it's not fully zero-drop, it's about as close as I've found in a boot that sturdy.  It doesn't have the same ground-feel as a true minimalist shoe but it's WAY better than any "hunting" boot on the market.  I'd say it's a good compromise.  They're compliant with most police & military required specs if that gives you a sense of how they're built.

My wife picked up a pair of Xero boots that she likes.  You can easily pick up a set of Dirty Girl gaiters for them, too.  This would be more for hiking than hunting, I'd think, since it's like a mid-top boot.  I like having a higher top for hunting as brush, loose dirt, sand and thick mud all occur in my woods.

If I can ever find something more like a moccasin (higher top but thinner, rubber-soled boot with a more sturdy upper) for a reasonable price, I'd be all-in.  Tried making some about a year ago & it didn't come out all that great.  So I'm back to the Mini-Mil.
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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2018, 01:32:54 PM »
Hi YosemiteSam,

Check these out...  Sounds like your feet are well conditioned.  Check these out...

 https://www.lemsshoes.com/shop/men/men-s-boulder-boot.html
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Offline YosemiteSam

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2018, 05:34:05 PM »
Hi YosemiteSam,

Check these out...  Sounds like your feet are well conditioned.  Check these out...

 https://www.lemsshoes.com/shop/men/men-s-boulder-boot.html

That's pretty good.  At a reasonable price, too.  Whenever I finally wear out the mini-mils, I'll give them a try.  Thanks!
"A good hunter...that's somebody the animals COME to."
"Every animal knows way more than you do." -- by a Koyukon hunter, as quoted by R. Nelson.

Offline Dave Rice

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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2018, 07:34:16 PM »
I have very low volume feet, so am tough to fit, and have had crushed nerves from bad boot fit, so I've explored much of what's out there, and some of what isn't.

I have some Lems Boulder boots. Zero drop, absolutely no structure. They have great ground feel. My podiatrist hunts elk with them in MT. Problem is that the sole doesn't give traction on wet grassy slopes, or even thick matted kinnickkinnick with moistrure on it, and I have the bruises as evidence.

My Altra running shoes are great for what they are, and have velcro in the back to secure their light weight gaiters. I'm happy with them as a lightweight hiking shoe. Blackberry thickets will eat them alive, and no moisture protection.

Vivobarefoot Tracker FG are my current go to boots. https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/mens/off-road/tracker-fg-mens?colour=Dark+Brown. Good traction, except on slick wet rocks. Decent waterproofing. Tongue gusset doesn't go to the top of the tongue. Not quite as quiet as the Lems, but a much better hiker.

I have a pair of Belleville Boots Mini Mils that I'm sending back. I want to love them, but have extremely low volume feet, and even with heavy wool socks, they don't fit well enough. Not waterproof at all, but look good for dry hunting. https://www.bellevilleboot.com/video-mini-mil.php

I've been trying to get custom, low drop, boots from Russell Moccasin Company. They've been great to work with, and for someone with a more normal foot shape, it would be a fantastic solution, albeit spendy. Check out the Thula Thula:  http://www.russellmoccasin.com/minimalist-footwear-custom-made/ and http://www.russellmoccasin.com/minimalist-thula-thula/.

Dave



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Re: Preferred trail runners?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2018, 08:47:57 PM »
Wow. Thanks so much for the detailed post!
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