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Offline John Sturtevant

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2005, 01:34:00 PM »
Mike, all JD needs to do is get it perfectly tillered to exactly 9.23#’s under the target weight, and maintain a fairly flat belly.  I'll try not to screw it up.   :)
Suspect the BB/Yew/horn may be a nice combination.
What will you use for handle material?
Snakewood underlays on the tips?

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2005, 01:39:00 PM »
John,

I have some snakewood coming from CK that will handle the underlays.  What do you think would look good in the handle?

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »
The auction was in June last year if'n I remember right.  Maybe July.  I remember the closing conflicted with either Cloverdale or MOJam???  Anyways, we got some time.  Send any pics and or stories/text to j.scifres@sbcglobal.net
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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2005, 03:03:00 PM »
Mojam! I remember well. A number of us were there. CK

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2005, 03:55:00 PM »
Why use yew in the middle if you're going to put horn on the belly?

The whole idea about using yew is to give it a belly that is more elastic in compression than most other woods.  Putting horn on it already does that, so why waste the yew in the middle.

I would suggest putting something that isn't as precious as yew between the bamboo and horn.

Just my 2 cents.

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« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2005, 04:42:00 PM »
Jason,

The horn will add a bit of fire to the combination.  It will be probably .080 and add a few pounds.  The yew will still be doing work and will make for a very light in the hand super fast wood bow.

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2005, 04:47:00 PM »
0.04" of fiberglass on a longbow belly will prevent set for most bows up to 50#.  0.08" of horn will probably help prevent most of the set.  Any light (in mass) core would probably do as well as yew in that combination.

How much set (difference between finished profile and glued up profile) do you get on your horn bellied bows?  Is it less than if you just used wood?

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2005, 04:53:00 PM »
By the way, I'm not criticizing, I'd just like to know a little more about what having a horn belly does to the performance of a longbow.

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« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2005, 04:53:00 PM »
Jason,

The horn bellies have about half the set of the all wood bows.  Or from a different view, they retain twice as much reflex.

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2005, 05:04:00 PM »
I would guess that the extra zip from the horn is primarily from the increased stored energy (better f-d curve).

It would be interesting to see if you would get the same performance using a horn-bellied bow with a lesser quality core wood (in compression) like walnut or red elm and still get near the performance as a horn-bellied bow with osage, yew, or bulletwood core.

Thanks for the info Mike!

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2005, 05:21:00 PM »
I can tell you that the better the quality of the core wood the better the bow.  I have added a maple core to my windtalker bow and am lowering the base price.  It is not as soft or as fast as Tonkin Bamboo but is still very good. I have used yew, osage, bulletwood, maple and bamboo and can say for a fact that they each have there own characteristics and produce a different feel and performance.

Now horn is new to us and we only have a few bows built.  But it is smokin hot for a natural material and really whistles the arrows.

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2005, 05:58:00 PM »
I don't build bows, so I can't help there.  But, I am a trained bidder and if this bow comes in at around 50# you can count on me to be cranking up the bidding!!!  Heck, I may crank it up even it isn't 50#!  This is a great project ya'll and Mike, you deserve an A++ for a fantastic idea   :D
Just wish June would be here a little sooner....

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2005, 06:32:00 PM »
Claudia, these bows will generate a real bidding frenzy. I can't compete, but sure love to watch  ;)
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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2005, 06:36:00 PM »
Claudia,

With the horn we might even bring it in in the high 40s.  It will shoot like a 55+ BBO and a 60+ selfbow.

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2005, 07:37:00 PM »
Dang Mike that's going to be one heck of a bow... What a great team of guys.....  :thumbsup:  Terry
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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2005, 08:48:00 PM »
Now Mike...that will truly be a tempting treat!  I guess I better start saving for the big event  "[laffsmyl]"  I can't wait!!!!

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2005, 12:09:00 AM »
Mike I will go look for some Wood for the handle tomorrow. I will see if I can find some more Olive wood.  What size piece do you need for your handles?
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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #57 on: December 30, 2005, 09:10:00 AM »
Dan,

The handle on this one is 1"x 2"x 12".

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #58 on: December 30, 2005, 08:07:00 PM »
Got an email from Mike that the yew board is on it's way.  So the journey begins.

Mike

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Re: St. Judes BBY build along? IT'S DONE!! Pics included
« Reply #59 on: December 30, 2005, 11:07:00 PM »
Mike, just wonderin how the different "sessions" will be lined up?

The skins really need to go on after the overlays,(tips)and just before the finish.
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