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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2004, 07:50:00 PM »
I had a slat of bodark ready to go but wingnut didn't like the looks of some knots in it so he traded me a piece of bullet wood (i have no idea what bullet wood is; looks dense and tuff though).  Wingnut touched up the gluing surface on the bullet slat.

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo1.jpg

wingnut was the glue man.  he doped up the glass (.030 black) and the bullet slat

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo4.jpg

i got jaap koppedrayer's video "all tied up in bow making".  ya need a rope (i used 1/4" manila) and lots of bamboo wedges.

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo4b.jpg

ya tape the lams together then warp them with rope in a screw pattern with the crossings about 1" apart

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo5.jpg

now ya reverse the screw pattern to a "X" crossing pattern

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo6.jpg

now ya whack a wedge under each of the crossings.  in this case the wedges go on the belly since we want to reflex in the bow

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo8.jpg  

wingnut and i put a modest amount of reflex in the bow about 1&1/4" and put it in the hot box

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo9.jpg

the finished slat and glass back was 15/32" thick.  60" long and had 1&1/4" reflex stressed by the wedges into the system

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2004, 07:57:00 PM »
thanks for your help wingnutty.  i don't know much about glass backing.  the results was very good.  I got 1&1/4" reflex like we planned.  the glue line was very very good.  who would have thunk it.


i post some pics of the bow blank after supper (dinner to all ya yankees)


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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2004, 07:59:00 PM »
omg ain't that a handsome fellower   :bigsmyl:

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2004, 08:05:00 PM »
Yes i am!!!  It was fun to have ya out and working on a bow again.  We haven't done that in a long time.  I remember when every other Sunday was a bowbee and now we have our own things.  I think that is goign to be one heck of a bow when your done.  If the weight is a little light we can add a lam to the back or the belly.

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »
Nice sox, Rsuty! You et yet? Dang, you've had at least fifteen minutes!  :rolleyes:  

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2004, 08:11:00 PM »
Even if it don't make a bow, you guys are havein fun looks like.

BTW, no doubt it'll be a shooter.
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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2004, 09:08:00 PM »
neat bow blank.

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo10.jpg

now i'm gonna leave the width alone, find the center line of the blank and taper the limbs pyramid style from the full width of the center line down to 3/4" side nocks.  I'll put a sting on it and see what I got.  soon or later i'll trim the length to pony bow length.  right now I'm curious about what i got  :)

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2004, 09:13:00 PM »
top pic is the glue line.   :)

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2004, 09:27:00 PM »
Looks great Rusty. How do you like that video?

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2004, 09:37:00 PM »
Dang Rusty, something just don't look right seeing you working on a bow with all that clean empty space around ya.  Mike needs to clutter up that shop a bit don't ya think?

By the way, I might be giving you a call this weekend.
Dave


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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2004, 09:45:00 PM »
Rusty,I did a couple of short, 42 inchers like that, that were about 40#. One broke due to drawing it to about 32+"... just to see what it would take   :knothead:  . I think the other is somewhere out in the shop. Nice little bows.
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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2004, 01:34:00 PM »
Here is the bow with a string.  I trimmed the width to the above dimensions and cleaned up the belly a bit.  I took a couple of flat spots out of the mid-bow.  the bow is draw 40#@18" here.  guess that means the bow will come in at hunting wait.

 http://stavestobows.homestead.com/files/glassabo11.jpg

the tips are stiff for the profile I'm after.  I will tiller the outer limb tips by tiller the width till I get down to 5/8" tips (i want them to look kinda Indian bow style [even if if contributes to a bit of hadn shock]).  

I want the bow to draw in a nice smooth circle shape.  maybe the last four inches of the tips could be left stiff.  I wouldn't mind that.

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2004, 01:37:00 PM »
I have no idea what bullet wood is but it is dense and seems stuff (bullet proof) so for.  it works will with the vixen files.

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2004, 01:38:00 PM »
btw when the tips get to 5/8" if i still need to get more bend I'll tiller the belly.  

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2004, 01:41:00 PM »
I have really enjoyed using Jaap's (actually Japanese, it is way old) process.  it is simple quick anb ya can kinda design on the go.

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2004, 01:48:00 PM »
right now the bow is 58&1/2" ntn.  after a bit I may trim it down and re-tiller it to 56" ntn

right now I want see what the gold standard is.  

rusty

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2004, 03:36:00 PM »
very cool.  It's good to see ya doing what you love Rusty.  I can't wait to see how it turns out.  Some of my students want to make one like it now... LOL.
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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2004, 04:33:00 PM »
Bob, it would be a good project.  I find sumpin totally awsome about mixing the very old and the very new.  it kinda speaks to me  :)

rusty

ps if ya have a hot box ya can carry everthing else ya need in a 5 gallon bucket...i like that a lot

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Re: Jaap, gordon glass and a ponyh bow. :)
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2004, 04:38:00 PM »
here we mixed a wood working technique, very old and time proven, with modern material and a bow design that is almost as old as a bent limb  :)

hey does it get any better??  :)

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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2004, 04:39:00 PM »
of course I use shoot arrows with titanium trade points  :)

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