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Offline Marvin M.

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Back Quiver Build Along
« on: March 24, 2004, 11:56:00 AM »
With aplolgies to Barb (whose work I admire greatly) and Rob (who I consider a mentor because of his article on the How To forum and a recent post), I thought I would do a build along for the new guys that haven't seen this.

As background for this, I built my first one using Rob's plans on the how-to forum.  This is my second.  I used the following as references on this project:  "Makin' Quivers" by Bob Krout (IAM -- Summer, 1997), "A Quiver to Hunt With" by Scott Toll (IAM -- Fall, 2001), and "Easy Armbuards" by Bob Krout (IAM -- Winter, 1997) and E. Donnall Thomas' two recent articles in TBM on "Alternative Quivers".  I made the arm guards while I was cutting and stitching.

I ordered leather from Leather Unlimited.  I have used them before and got decent service.  For $57 I got a piece large enough to do two quivers.  It turned out a little stiffer than I wanted, but once it conforms to my back it should work great.  I might add that I like a stiff quiver, even though they are a little noisier.  

I made a pattern from poster board following loosely the instructions in the "Makin Quivers" article listed above.  Here is a pic of the patterns.  If anybody wants dimensions, I will supply those.

   

You can see the holes punched in the pattern to mark the leather as I cut the parts out.  The yellow pattern on the bottom is the quver body.  The white strip on the bottom of the pic is the strap.  I cut two of them to make it adjustable.  Just above the strap is the sides of the pouch I am adding, and on the left side are the other two pieces of the pouch.  In the top right are the two patterns for armguards, and on top of the cuff style armguard pattern is the bottom for the quiver.  You need to cut two of those pieces to have a reinforced bottom.

Once I had the patterns ready, I marked them on the leather and cut them out using a box cutter razor knife.    
All holes were punched with one of those rotary hole punch things that you can pick up just about anywhere.  I then rolled down the top to the length I wanted it and tied it off.  I took it out to the garage and hammered the edges on the roll to make them lay down better.

The next step was to stain the leather since it came "natural".  I bought Kiwi "Scuff Away" in brown from the shoe department at Wal-Mart and used it.  This gave it the darker color I wanted and left it somewhat streaked to break up the outline.

Next comes the fun part -- stitching.  I used leather boot laces for my stitching.  They are very tough and work well for this purpose.  Start with the bottom and think carefully before you do it to make sure it comes out right.  I had to restart three times to get everythink line up like I wanted it.

   

Once the bottom is stitched, start at the bottom and work up the side to get everything cinched down.  Use needlenose pliers to pull your stitches tight and insure a snug fit.

   

Before I tied off the top, I went underneath the roll and made some holes to put some dividers to separate broadheads from judos from target/flu-flu's.  I cut two short pieces of river can and threaded lace throgh them and tied if off underneath the roll.  This gives me three separate compartments for arrows in the mouth of the quiver (sorry, no pic of that).  Then I cinched down the top, and tied it off. I had a copper concho that I tied in, and added some plastic beads for color.

More to come later

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2004, 12:20:00 PM »
I really liked the Third photo, looks like you have a partner there off to the left side helping out, the look on His experssion of His eyes is really is cute.

Super pics. of your Leather work also.

Yes please e-mail me the dims. for the Quiver,etc....ONE SHOT...  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :cool:    :cool:    :cool:

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2004, 01:36:00 PM »
Nice one Marvin!  :thumbsup:   You gonna use that one at the KK?
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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2004, 01:46:00 PM »
One Shot,

That is my resident Lap Dog.  He was very interested in the leather to the point that I wound up giving him a scrap piece to chew on.  

I am at work and don't have the dimensions with me.  I will try to dig them out tonight.

Tracy,

Not sure if I will make it.  If I do, I will bring it along.

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2004, 02:36:00 PM »
OK, here we go with the strap and pouch.

On the straps, I puched holes one inch apart and one inch away from each other on both ends.  This continues the theme of one inch spacing that was started on the quiver body.  On the strap piece that fastens at the bottom, I punched holes one inch apart all the way up it, to give me more flexibility in adjusting it.  I want to be able to adjust for thicker clothing in the cold, or thinner in September for the opener.    ;)  On the quiver bottom I punched four holes that will line up with the holes on the strap.  At the top, I punched six holes with the highest about two inches from the top of the quiver.  Use boot laces to tie in the straps and to tie the straps together. You can see some of this in the pictures at the end.

In order to get the holes that I need to tie in the pouch, I used my electric drill.  I picked a bit that was about the right size and went slow to get a neat hole.  I discovered that it is best to punch the spot with an awl before drilling to prevent skipping.  I did not punch these when I started with the leather since I wanted to decide later where I would put it; besides, those rotary punches will only go in about an inch from the edge.  After the holes were drilled and the matching holes punched in the back of the pouch, I ran some pieces of the lacing through the holes.  I pushed them in one hole and ran a wire in the other one to pull them out.  Took a little patience, but I got them out.  This is what it looked like.

 

Now I started sewing the pieces of the pouch together.  Using artificial sinew, I double stitched (that may not be the right term since I am not a tailor), the back to the sides and got it ready.  Here is what that looked like.

 

You can see the holes that line up with the drilled holes in the quiver body in the pic above.

Next, I punched holes in the pouch front and the flap to allow for fastening.  I put a loop of stretch cord through the holes in the pouch front and sewed a wooden button onto the pouch flap to loop the stretch cord around.  I need to get some stronger stretch cord, but this will work for now.  Then, I sewed the front onto the sides with artificial sinew, again using a double stitch (by that I mean that I went from two different directions to leave a crossed pattern on the stitches -- see pic).

 

Finally, I took the other piece of leather for the bottom and used it for a pattern to cut some foam to go in the bottom.

The articles that I read said to use contact cement to glue the two pieces together to reinforce the bottom.  I wanted to leave them unglued, in case I ever bust a stitch and need to repair.  I dropped in the piece of leather and punched it down with an arrow, and then pushed the foam in on top of it.  That should be plenty of protection for the bottom, and allow something for broadheads to grab if they slip out of their "boots" (a future project for me).

Here is what you get when you put it all together.

 

From the front.  Note, I still need to add some lacing to the straps.  This photo was taken when I first finished it and just used a couple of scraps to hold it together.

 

And for those close stalking situations in the brush, you need to be able to flip it up under your arm and control it with your bow hand.  The strap needs to be adjusted carefully for this to allow clearance to draw the bow if the shot presents itself, without interfering with the string.  It seems that the best way to accomplish this is to have it come up within three or four inches of your arm pit (at least that felt best to me).  See pic.

 

This is a large quiver that will hold a couple of dozen field points if needed, and the pouch will easily hold a spare string, shooting glove, multi-tool, and any other odds and ends that you might need.  You could probably even throw a couple of squirrels in there if you are lucky enough to hit one.  :D  

So simple that even an accountant can make one, looks traditional, and cheap enough that even Van would like it (sorry Van, had to say it).

If you have ever wanted a primitive back quiver, there is no reason you can't have one!  Just get some leather and put it together.

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2004, 06:57:00 PM »
So Marvin wanna sell that puppy..Why in the world did you apologize to me for making a quiver?You did far better than me at making a back quiver..I like Lakota style quivers and seldom make back quivers..Everyone should try making a quiver it isnt half as hard as you may think it is..Again Marvin very nice quiver

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2004, 06:58:00 PM »
Good show Marvin    :thumbsup:

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2004, 12:17:00 AM »
Very nice quiver Marvin.
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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2004, 01:17:00 AM »
Marvin,
Nice quiver. Thanks for sharing that. I been wanting to make some back quivers for my kids and myself soon.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2004, 01:34:00 AM »
real nice and thank you for sharing  :bigsmyl:    :thumbsup:
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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2004, 08:06:00 AM »
Hey  that ain't  half  bad work for  a bean  counter   :bigsmyl:   Nice pictorial   there  Marvin.  I had  no  idea   you had such talent  with the  leather, camera or written word   ;)  You quiet types  worry  me   :cool:  

As Barb suggested you should  try  making a  Lakota style quiver sometime.
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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2004, 08:10:00 AM »
A really great tutorial and one heckuva back quiver!  Good show Marvin!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2004, 08:14:00 AM »
Nice work Marvin, great looking quiver. Thanks.

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2004, 09:06:00 AM »
Thanks, guys.

Barb, I just admire your work.  I don't consider this to even remotely be in your class of work.  I did make a Lakota quiver, but haven't used it much yet.  Not nearly as nice as your work.  Used the instructions in the TBB books.  It is functional, but not very pretty (like yours).  And yes, you could say that I have quiver envy!

Mickey,

This time of year I need something therapeutic (is that spelled right?) to help me forget about taxes and year end reports.

For you guys that requested dimensions, I will try to get those out at lunch.

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2004, 10:26:00 AM »
Marvin-

What grade and weight of leather did you order.  I looked at their catalog, and they have quite a selection!  Since you said it was stiff, I figure I would start with the next lighter weight, if you remember what you got.

Also, how large a piece did you order, It looked in their catalog like the small pieces (about 10-12 sq. ft.) would be plenty, but I would hate to run out!

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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2004, 02:03:00 PM »
JAK,

6 to 9 oz is what is recommended.  What I got was at least 9 and maybe heavier.  Lighter will form to your back better and hold the arrows more securely as it kind of collapses around the arrows.  The roll top helps keep the top open even on light weight leather.  This one will form to my back somewhat as I wear it, and working a softener into it will help also.

One Shot,

Sent you a Private Message with the dimensions.  Let me know if you have qiestions.

Barb,  

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2004, 06:23:00 PM »
Marvin,I`ve ordered a Pendelton blanket and an elkhide to make Lakota quivers from..Something I havent tried before,a blanket style quiver trimmed in elk..I`ll make you a quiver from it if you like..I cant say for sure how well it`ll come out

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2004, 08:30:00 AM »
Barb,

I would love to have one of your quivers.  They are beautiful!!  What can I send you in trade?

Marvin

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Re: Back Quiver Build Along
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2004, 09:56:00 AM »
FWIW I have thoroughly enjoyed this tutorial and interaction. Nice job, Marvin, on the project and on the presentation. Got a soft spot for you leather workers LOL (love the smell of leather - carry over from my horsemanship days I guess).  :)
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2004, 01:25:00 PM »
Hi Bernie,

I like doing it.  Doubt if I will ever do a lot of it, but I like making my own "stuff".  I'm not very original, as I stated, all this came out of articles that I have read.  They're not hard to make, if you just take your time and think about what you are doing.

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