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Author Topic: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011  (Read 13268 times)

Offline Terry Green

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Thanks to Tom Mussatto for compressing this clip for easy download.

I'd also like to add that I center punched the shoulder MUCLE...not the shoulder bone.  The lungs were behind the shield where I hit and not bone.  This shows just how far forward you can shoot a hog and go straight to the vitals boneless....if you got enough bow or the right broadhead to get through the shield.

                 

Here's a pic of the shield and you can plainly see it and all its battle scars from taking jabs from other boar's tusks...

           

             

Not all hogs have shields this thick(2 inches), but they are noticeable when they get this big, so this might be good to know before you shoot if you see some saddle bags hanging off of one.  Turn your volume up....

 CLICK HERE FOR THICK SHIELD AND SHOT PLACEMENT INFO

This is another hog I shot with Ray Hammond a couple of years ago...

This might be a great opportunity to show some shot placement photos.  Ray and I discussed this on the way back, and by showing these pics someone may save themselves some grief.  It shows just how forward you can shoot a hog because of the front end bone structure.

Remember, this 300#er only ran 30 yards, and this shot did get both lungs and the heart......Note the forward exit wound and this was from a 60# longbow and a Zwickey Delta 4 blade.

                 

This pic reveals that 'Bride of Horse Tail' was slightly quartering away. It also shows how far forward it exited without hitting any bone. This picture however is deceiving on how low on the body the shot placement was.

                             

This pic shows the true elevation on the body...and makes the shot 'low and tight'.

                           

Here is the exit wound from a Delta 4 blade.  You can see how far forward the exit was and no bone was contacted.


   

Results of the Shot....(Thanks to Ray Hammond for pulling this out of the gut bucket for me, I was too busy trying to get 3 hogs skint and quartered up that day)

               
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 11:31:00 PM »
nice job, Terry!!! Great shooting, as usual.

 
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 11:35:00 PM »
dang thats nuts, what bw setup did u use to take it terry?

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2008, 12:16:00 AM »
Great info. You always hear about the shoulder armor on hogs but until you see it, it is hard to understand just how thick they are.
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 12:18:00 AM »
Thanks Terry,
I didn't know that shield was that hard!  I guess I better step it up if I want to get through that on a big hog.

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 02:54:00 AM »
Thanks for the video!

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 08:44:00 AM »
It was a 70# Thunderstick MOAB - and an Ace Super Express.

     

Yep, the guy had petrified catcher's mitts as saddle bags.

Here's another Heart Shot - Big Shielded Hog I passed through with a Zwickey 4 Blade head...

     

     

   
   
This was the entrance....take in mind the boar's front leg is forward...

     

It exited the off arm pit and passed through here on the way out...

 


     
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 09:04:00 AM »
Thanks for the tutorial Terry, for people like me with no experience with hogs, it's very valuable info.

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 09:09:00 AM »
:clapper:    :clapper:  Well done terry
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 09:55:00 AM »
No problem guys....that's what this place is here for.

That Ace is not really correct in image....its a bit longer more spear point shaped.  That pic came off their website...I'll try and get a better one.

HOGS: These shot placement pics are based on broadside animals, so take into consideration if the animal is quartering where to aim to cross through the middle of the animals vitals with the greatest margin of error.


Hog vitals are a bit more tricky as they are angled up a bit as they go back...the same double lung shot on a deer could result in a gut shot on a hog.

Low and tight is good...low and back aint...the same shot low and back(yellow circle) would double lung if it was high and back(pink circle).....so again I aim for the middle right over the elbow for the greatest margin of error on a broadside shot (orange circle).

                           

I quit shooting hogs 'low and tight' after I lost one due to it being 3 inches back.  I now aim as I suggested above(orange circle).

Same low and back on the deer would kill it(orange circle)....

                         

                 

Again...Low and tight is good...low and back aint...the same shot low and back(yellow circle) would double lung if it was high and back(orange circle).....so again I aim for the middle right over the elbow for the greatest margin of error on a broadside shot.
                 

In this pic....the PINK circle gives you the greatest margin of error.  
                 
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I've seen this posted for years on web sites...

"I like to shoot them quartering away to avoid the shield".

I've tried to explain that this is not the case on a shielded boar....So at Solana I got pics of Michael's boar to add to the shot placements thread sticked at the top, so they can do the talking.  

This is a pic of a shielded boar and the location of just how far back the shield goes and that you are not going to avoid the shield by shooting quartering away unless you shoot behind the rib cage, and that is a dicey shot.

           

         

           

Also, if you do shoot quartering away, your are actually increasing the thickness of the shield you have to pass through because you are making the shield thicker by the quartering away angle.

I am not condemning a quartering away shot with this post, I've shot plenty that way.  I'm  just making folks aware that you are not going to avoid the shield.....unless of course you shoot that little soft pocked in the clip posted on the shot placement thread...and that soft spot can be shot broadside as well.

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 10:15:00 AM »
Terry...thanks for the video.  Hogs (or hawgs as we say below Macon), have been my nemesis til this year.  i finally took my first & second so far since January.  My problem had been that subconsciously i couldn't make myself shoot that far forward.  Until i get a few more under my belt, i'm still not comfortable shooting them unless they have at least a slight quartering angle.
That was awesome!  
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2008, 03:02:00 PM »
good stuff thanks for posting it

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 08:10:00 PM »
Now that's a shield! Very cool little video Terry.
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2008, 08:31:00 PM »
Do all hogs have a shield that hard?
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 09:33:00 PM »
Great video, thanks for sharing Terry
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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2008, 09:45:00 PM »
Thanks for the video. Nice info.

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2008, 09:56:00 PM »
Cool vid and pin point shooting as usual Terry.

Its hard to make oneself shoot right above the hog's leg on the body, seems like the bone will be there, but its not. The leg bone elbows forward and then back at the scapula. As Nicki Roth told me in Florida, "Everything behind the head is guts." Shoot right through that above the leg point or to pass between the legs on a quartering away shot. The heart lays right on the bottom of the chest you can't shoot too low.

Stone Knife, only the larger boars have a shield that heavy, but younger ones will have some thickening.

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2008, 11:00:00 PM »
neat video

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2008, 11:08:00 PM »
I think I need a bigger bow   :bigsmyl:

Cool Video, Terry. Thanks for sharing!!

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Re: Hog Shot Placement & Shield Clip - NEW PICS ON 1ST PAGE 9/13/2011
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2008, 06:48:00 AM »
Thanks Terry thats good info!  I have a hog hunt with Ray next month and am researching everything I can on how to hunt and where to shoot a hog.  This was a very instructive video.
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