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Offline Dan Jones

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rotational draw and pain in the bow hand shoulder
« on: November 17, 2018, 09:34:43 PM »
After studying Arne Moe's You Tube videos on the rotational draw I have tried it for several weeks of shooting. I think that it does make for better use of the back muscles, but I have developed a sharp pain in my bow hand shoulder that I've never experienced before. I have to assume that the pain is being caused somehow by the rotational draw - perhaps from drawing higher up at the start than ever before. Has anyone else had this experience?  Thanks.

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Re: rotational draw and pain in the bow hand shoulder
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2018, 07:53:10 AM »
Dan, In my experience, this is rare.  It COULD be that you are letting the bow shoulder ride up either as you lift the bow or during the draw.  IF the upper ball of the humerus isn't seating into the socket of the shoulder, you MAY be experiencing a slight impingement.  Theses are just guesses, would have to see what you are doing, video time!!

The rotational draw (NTS) advocates a static bow shoulder and arm, there should be no movement of the arm left or right related to the shoulder.

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Re: rotational draw and pain in the bow hand shoulder
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2018, 09:45:47 AM »
After studying Arne Moe's You Tube videos on the rotational draw I have tried it for several weeks of shooting. I think that it does make for better use of the back muscles, but I have developed a sharp pain in my bow hand shoulder that I've never experienced before. I have to assume that the pain is being caused somehow by the rotational draw - perhaps from drawing higher up at the start than ever before. Has anyone else had this experience?  Thanks.

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Re: rotational draw and pain in the bow hand shoulder
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2018, 10:54:05 AM »
Thank you for the responses.  It is definitely my bow shoulder. I don't think my bow shoulder position has changed during the draw,  but I have no video equipment and live alone so I have no way of getting a visual record. The shoulder pain is not noticeable if I raise the bow to the height I use for a straight draw, but it is noticeable when I raise it higher for the rotational draw. I suspect that's the cause of the pain, but I don't know that for sure.

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Re: rotational draw and pain in the bow hand shoulder
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2018, 11:45:48 AM »
Then lift to the straight draw height, you can still rotational draw there.  But for what I teach, the height is only about 2" higher than that.  Anyway, you have to do what you have to do.

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Re: rotational draw and pain in the bow hand shoulder
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 07:41:53 PM »
I shot again today using the rotational draw, but I only raised the bow arm as high as I would for a straight draw. No pain in the bow shoulder. Apparently that slight additional elevation doesn't agree with my shoulder. I have no idea why that would be the case.  Thank you very much for your help.   Dan Jones

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