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Offline tomsm44

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A question for my upstate NY brethren
« on: May 04, 2017, 09:02:00 PM »
I posted this on the powwow page and it was suggested I try here as well.  

I hope it's ok to post this here. It's not specifically trad hunting related, other than it could possibly lead to some awesome trad hunting in the future.

I work in the oil/gas industry, and am considering applying for a position that could possibly put me somewhere near Horseheads NY. I was hoping some of the guys that live in or near that area could give me a little insight into life around there. I'm born and raised in N Louisiana, so I know the winter weather would be a bit of a shock, but I absolutely hate our summers, so I'm thinking I could get used to it. The furthest north I've been would be Mo, Tn, and NC, so I don't have any personal experience to go on as far as making a decision.

So without getting too much into politics, what can you guys tell me as far as cost of living, typical taxes, how the culture would compare to my area, etc. Of course, I'm also interested in the hunting, camping, fishing, and general outdoor life in the area. Any information is appreciated, and who knows, maybe I'll get to walk the hills up there with some of you guys eventually.

Thanks,
Matt
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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2017, 01:07:00 PM »
Well first of all taxes in NY they are about the worst you can get! Just google some stats and you will see. Not from that area but i know there is some good hunting down there and you have a ton of state land around Cornell with good deer numbers. Cost of living. Houses you are probably looking at 150k for small lot with a decent 1800sqft house. I live in the albany area and a new house in a subdivision .5  acre lot start in the 250 300k range and you don't get much inside. If you have any specific questions shoot a pm and I will try to help.
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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2017, 02:54:00 AM »
NY has tons of public land to hunt on.  And camping and fishing are pretty good.  I usually hunt our northern zone because I like the remoteness of our Adirondack Mountain region.  The hunting is much better in the southern zone for the most part.  I live in the north central part of the state, not far from Lake Ontario.  

As far as weather we get some snow here in the winter but not too many real bad weather related events.  Winter temps get down to below zero degrees for a week or two in the winter.

I have read that NY is the highest or second highest taxed state in the union.  Our gun laws are horrible.  Houses here in many parts of upstate NY are cheaper than in other states, from what I've been told by folks from other states.  Land and school taxes combined are anywhere from 3 or 4000 up to more than $12000 per year depending on location and size of the home.  Sales tax about a little more than 8%.  If it weren't for NYC politics it would be a great state to live in.
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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2017, 03:01:00 AM »
Oh, I have been down in the Horseheads area a few times and it is a really nice area.  I used to hunt about 20 or 25 miles from there and it was really good back then.  Lots of farm land and quite a bit of public land just north of Horsehead.

During a normal winter they don't get the heavy snow we do (we get over 200 inches here each winter).
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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2017, 11:22:00 AM »
Thanks guys.  Sounds like the only real negatives I'm seeing are high taxes and crappy gun laws.  Not perfect, but I can deal with those issues.  

I actually recently heard that Louisiana currently has the highest overall tax burden in the US, but I'm not sure how accurate that report was.  Our guys are good at hiding the taxes though, like in gasoline prices, and things like that.  It's already added into the price you see, so we don't notice how much of it is taxed.  It looks like a mortgage and property tax combined would be about the same as down here.  The cheaper property offsets the higher property taxes.

I haven't received an offer or anything, but I wanted to ask some questions ahead of time to be sure that it's a move I'd be interested in.
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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 01:02:00 PM »
Ya, we might be a little too negative.  If you consider all the public land, plus no hurricanes, tornadoes or bad earth quakes, it is a good place.  Especially down there in the southern zone.  By the way, gas here is about $2.60 per gallon.  What are you paying there?
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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2017, 02:12:00 PM »
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Originally posted by ronp:
Ya, we might be a little too negative.  If you consider all the public land, plus no hurricanes, tornadoes or bad earth quakes, it is a good place.  Especially down there in the southern zone.  By the way, gas here is about $2.60 per gallon.  What are you paying there?
Gas is close to that here.  Maybe 10-15 cents lower.
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Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

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Re: A question for my upstate NY brethren
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 06:34:00 PM »
Just as a comparison... I work for the commuter RR & live in the Hudson Valley. My taxes are about $9000 for a Ranch on a 1/4 acre. In a couple years when I retire, I'll move acrossed the river to Delaware Co. My taxes will probly drop $5000-&6000 depending on what I buy, with how much land? Location has everything to do with it! But, if the government is going to send me a check, to sit on my ass & fish... I can do a lot with a lot less $$$. As for now, it's worth the money, to be 10 mins from work!
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