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Offline MAT

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With all the testifying on xbows why didn’t anyone suggest a 1 buck/yr limit if xbows are included in the archery season?  They kept talking about xbows decimating he deer herd, but that only happens when you shoot breeding does.  The fact is antlerless deer are the only tags that are regulated so that harvest can be controlled, we actually have unregulated buck hunting so they will take the hit if more hunters are in the woods (esp. with 2 buck tags!).

The main issue raised by those who testified was an increase in the buck kill prior to the rifle season due to  xbows. That leaves less bucks for the rifle hunters to shoot (which biologically speaking is a fixed number), so they would get mad and reduce the archery season length.  The logic for the support of xbows by bowhunters was "first in first out" for xbows, which is never going to happen.  So what else can be done?  I would think that one way to avoid potential issues that were brought up is a 1 buck/yr limit with no party hunting for bucks, like MN (and many other states).

I’m not exactly a trophy hunter, but why shoot a little buck when you can shoot a doe?  Why shoot 2 little bucks a year?  Seems to me this is a compromise that will keep all the new gun hunters from shooting the first buck that walks by with an xbow, and therefor limit the buck harvest thus not causing any issues that will result in a shorter archery/xbow season (which is the primary concern).

Serious bowhunters who are likely to belong to bowhunting organizations wouldn't care about losing a gun buck tag if they shot one with their bow so I would imagine they would support it, especially if (as they said) huge numbers of gun hunters would go out and buy an xbow now and hunt the archery season but now would think twice about pulling the trigger on any buck. Seems to solve most of their problems, but apparently no one is thinking of other options since it appears xbows are imminent?  One buck/yr is what I would call a real compromise.  The definition which is solves the problem  but leaves everyone unhappy.

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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 10:05:00 PM »
I like the way you think. I think a 1 buck per year would be a great Policy for Wisconsin to adopt. It would in effect create more bigger bucks and eventually increase non resident hunter numbers.

The whole cross bow debate I think has more to do with give an inch take a foot line of thought.  Most guys who complain about less deer to shoot during gun season miss the whole idea entirely. It is more about preserving an Ideology and heritage. Its about allowing those who want to "Hunt" and work at their meat gathering the freedom and space to do so.    A large part of why I bow hunt over rifle hunt is to see animals in their natural environment.  Once every tom dick and harry enter the woods, all I tend to see are spooked animals.

I know there is more to it but.... the way I see it, once a crossbow season is introduced, they may as well start a fully automatic Machine gun season that lasts all year and has no limits.  Sounds ridiculous I know, but its not as far off as it seems.   :readit:    :eek:
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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 09:09:00 AM »
None of the members on the assembly committee bow hunt and neither do the two that sponsored the bill. What the one sponsor had going was she was a woman and had breast cancer so she had loads of ammunition to make the committee listen to her. Many times it only takes one person at the appropriate times to have a significant impact. I'm not certain who backed her but they definitely had the right perso

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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 09:12:00 AM »
None of the members on the assembly committee bow hunt and neither do the two that sponsored the bill. What the one sponsor had going was she was a woman and had breast cancer so she had loads of ammunition to make the committee listen to her. Many times it only takes one person at the appropriate times to have a significant impact. I'm not certain who backed her but they definitely had the right person behind the scene and in front of the mike.

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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 08:40:00 PM »
And correct me if I am wrong but she could have been using a crossbow all along without having to sponsor it.
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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2013, 01:36:00 PM »
Yes, it's all about money.  But seems to me if the real bowhunters had any say they would have suggested, based on what they were claiming about the impacts, a 1 buck/yr system.  Suffice to say we were not represented very well at the hearings.  But that is just a show, all the work was done prior with a select group of individuals and organizations.   Oh well that might be the next option because no way will they ever limit xbows over bows, we are all one happy season right now, and forever.   :banghead:

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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 06:51:00 PM »
Almost Thinking We Should Wait And See What Plays Out.  Let The Numbers Tell The Story. If They Have Their Own Season Then They Have Separate Accounting. Let It Happen.
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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 11:30:00 PM »
ChuckC - From what I understand about AB194, the crossbows do not have a completely separate season, because it is linked to the archery season. Perhaps the Senate version will not, which I think would be preferential as you say. They need to stand COMPLETELY alone. I am really glad the Senate Natural Resources Committee hasn't voted yet. I bet the politics are raging there on this. We'll see what becomes of it, and if we have any Senate representation on this in NR committee.
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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 05:32:00 AM »
Rumor has it that the NRB won't let one get treated different than the other so if adjustments need to be made everyone gets a shorter season. We will see.......
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Re: Is it time for 1 buck/yr limit with xbows in the archery season?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 03:13:00 PM »
myself, I think there should be a 1 buck limit no
matter what weapon is used. this would encourage
all hunters to let the small bucks go and wait for that big one. I think very few hunters would
shoot a small six point in September if that was
the only buck they could shoot that season. just
my opinion.

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