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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2009, 02:47:00 PM »
After all the praise in this post and because of they're gracious support of the St.Jude's Auction I bought a knife sharpening system. I don't have trouble sharpening on my own; but I have some salvaged Cold Steel knives that need to be brought back from butter knife to the shining examples of sharpness Cold Steel knives usually are. So this seemed to be the ticket plus the other duties this can accomplished.
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2009, 03:02:00 PM »
oh the full list of secrets of arrow penetration
1)Broadhead sharpness, a razor should weep in envy.
2)As close as you can get to perfect asrrow flight
3)High front of center weight, with a minimum of 10 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw weight aka at least a  500 grain arrow out of a 50# bow. Even heavier will work better until about 17 grains per pound being the point of diminishing returns.
4) Low cross sectional denisity aka thin arrow with as little fletching as you can achieve secret #2 with.
5)Shot placement, knowing where the space between the ribs is and putting the arrow there.

Of coarse I know that you all probably know all that. I just couldn't help myself.
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2009, 05:24:00 PM »
Everything that Charlie says, on sharpness and accuracy!

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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2009, 07:36:00 PM »
Romans3... You should have no trouble at all using the knife sharpening system on the Ace heads.
Those Ace broadheads have some super steel in them and I suspect you'll be awed by the edge you get with the KME.
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2009, 08:33:00 PM »
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Romans3... You should have no trouble at all using the knife sharpening system on the Ace heads.
Those Ace broadheads have some super steel in them and I suspect you'll be awed by the edge you get with the KME.
i've sharpened ace standards on my kme knife sharpener - yep, hair shaving sharp.
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2009, 08:41:00 PM »
Charlie,
I hope I'm not misunderstanding but, it sounds like from what your saying, you could do most broadheads with the knife system. Are there any broadheads that you think would be difficult to do with the knife system?
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2009, 08:45:00 PM »
i do believe that the kme KNIFE sharpener will easily sharpen all TWO blade heads (or 4 blades with removal bleeder blades).  

the kme, like most all other sharpening systems, won't do three bladed heads like woodsmans and snuffers.
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #87 on: June 12, 2009, 10:09:00 PM »
OK OK ya convinced me.  I just got of the folks with Ron and we are now dealers for KME products.

We will have some product to show at Comptons next week.

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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #88 on: June 12, 2009, 10:28:00 PM »
Joe D... How've you been bud? Like Rob said above.
 
I've mentioned that I think there may be trouble with heavilly concaved blades... the KME will do them, but I suspect the hone will take a beating after a while as it's mainly the edges of the stones that contact the blade.

May just give Ron a call and get his take on that.

Somewhere around here I've got a Howard Hill head that I'm gonna try as soon as I find it. The heavy aluminum ferrule can present problems with some systems, but I'll bet the knife sharpener will work on it as well.

Wow Mike! A dealer. That's pretty cool. I'm gonna have to break away and get up to Comptons one of these days. Sounds like a great time.
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2009, 12:31:00 PM »
Charlie...I've bean great....thanks!   :D   It's great to read your contributions and I hope all is going great for ya. PM me your street address, I have something I'd like to share with ya that I'm sure you'll enjoy.
It sounds like the knife setup would work for me....thanks for the feedback.   :)
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #90 on: June 13, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »
Charlie,
nice thread.

I've been running hog hunts for a year now....and it appears sharp is a very subjective thing.

Your advice-for both the sharpening- impaired or those who don't think they have the time to put into sharpening their own heads couldn't be more spot on.

The KME puts a sharper edge than nearly every hand sharpened head we have checked in camp.

And Ron is one of the good ones too...he will patiently help anyone any time on the phone get up to snuff with his sharpener.

Always sage advice and timely info from The Sunbear-meister!
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Re: Arrow penetration.... the real secret.
« Reply #91 on: June 13, 2009, 09:24:00 PM »
Joe... I'm sending a PM with address. I'm a sucker for a mystery package.

Ray... Those findings in your camp don't surprise me. Sounds like your guys have been knocking them dead.

Found the Howad Hill head and gave it a go on the knife sharpener. No luck with that one. The dang ferrule gets in the way even at the steepest angle... OK, so that's one. LOL

Well everyone, it looks like this thread is on it's last leg so I'm gonna let it slide on down the page. When it drops off to page 2 I'll move it to the Product reviews forum.

I think the word is out on a great product. I'm sure I'll get a lifetime of service from mine.
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