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Title: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: N. Naiden on January 17, 2005, 12:28:00 AM
In the moment before the release what do you do to calm yourself, or quiet yourself, so the shot will fly true?

It is said that in Bhutan, where archery is the national pastime and after-work contests in traditional dress are a daily event..when the archer  knows they have shot perfectly they drop their bow and run down the field to see where the arrow lands.  They do not worry about the other shooters whose arrows continue to fly - but follow the joy of that singular awareness, that their shot was prefect.

We all know this feeling - that things were 'right' and it will work.  It is harder to make things right consistently.

What do you do, in those seconds before you release, to make things work?
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Shaun on January 17, 2005, 12:40:00 AM
Nothing. Its all the doing that messes up most of my shots.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Bill Curlis on January 17, 2005, 12:50:00 AM
Just remember to breath.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: insttech1 on January 17, 2005, 01:00:00 AM
It's not the "shot" that gets me...

It's the point that I see the animal that I know I can harvest...that's when the heart pumps so hard I can feel my throat throb...and I start to flush...

But that ends the second the bow is raised, or the rifle, or muzzleloader, or shotgun, or whatever...at least for me, anyway...

That comes from years and years and years of marksmanship and Marine Corps training, though....when it comes to making the shot for a harvest, that's all there is--the shot itself...

The heart slows, the form comes together, the body stiffens...and breathing calms or stops altogether...

That's one reason why people might never touch a .300 win-mag at a rifle range, but if they touch one off at a deer or an elk, they never even feel the impact, and there is NO residual effect of recoil in later hours that would make your shoulder ache...

It's the ingrained ability of the body to react to what the mind tells it is coming...something to be excited about, and yet something that demands precision and focus...

Eventually the two just "meld", and it is not even a conscious thing anymore...it just..."is"...
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on January 17, 2005, 01:22:00 AM
My name is Jeff Strubberg, and I am an archery addict.....


I live for that still moment at the center of the shot.  Everything tight, everything in line.  You feel as if you could hold the shot forever.  Releasing the arrow is almost an anticlimax and there is no question as to where the arrow will end up.

That feeling can wash away the worst of days and adds depth to the color of the leaves of the fall woods.  The day I stop enjoying that feeling is the day I hang my bows up.

Short answer to your question...I seek that "feeling" so aggresively, both in the woods and on the target field, that there is no need to calm myself before the shot.  The target itself almost fades away.  It's just me and that perfect symmetry of form and function, tension and relaxation.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Terry Riley on January 17, 2005, 01:40:00 AM
I slow down in the last few inches of my draw before I reach anchor point and try to focus all attention on the smallest point I can visualize so that everything else sort of fades into the backround. I practice this while stump shooting so it just happens.

Terry
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: StanM on January 17, 2005, 02:19:00 AM
On the rare occasions when I'm shooting "in the zone" I know that I'll hit what I'm shooting at because I get a distinct visualization of the perfect shot before I actually release.

Same thing used to happen for me on the golf course.  I used to call it holing a putt before I hit it.  Just saw the ball rolling into the hole as if it couldn't do anything but.

One of my goals between now and next Fall is to work on the mental aspect of my shooting.  Would've done it earlier, but I'm scared as hell to look inside my own mind.

Stan
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Yohon on January 17, 2005, 06:17:00 AM
Jeff...Excellent discription  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: deerfly on January 17, 2005, 07:53:00 AM
positive thinking, long slow deep breaths through the nose and intense focus on the smallest little detail where I want the arrow to go.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: bayoulongbowman on January 17, 2005, 08:57:00 AM
NO RED BEANS & RICE THE NIGHT BEFORE , AND iM OK..  :D    :wavey:    :wavey:  ...
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Douglas DuRant on January 17, 2005, 09:11:00 AM
Hi Deerfly hope y'all came through this last hurricane season without too much damage. My Dad's place was spared. Hope to see y'all in March.

What a good question this is. Wish I could give an adequate answer to it. I don't really know how I get there for the shot, It just seems to happen. I feel it relates to the quality of my concentration on my focus.

Perhaps think of our concentration on focus like a solution of liquid so concentrated that there is no room for anything else to dilute the quality of our concentration. Thinking is allowed before and after the shoot but only dilutes our focus when we are making the shot.

I feel my best shots are made when my subconscious is concentrated on making the shot, rather than my conscious mind which wants to be over controlling at times. My conscious mind is almost always thinking about more than just the shot, so it is best to leave it out of the shot many times. Just let it handle the preliminaries, then give it something to do like saying follow through to occupy it.

I strive to quiet my mind when hunting so I can become more attuned with the world around me, and listening to every sound is part of the method I use to control my internal dialog. This state of quiet observation may be of help when it comes to making a hunting shoot.

For 3D shoots i am laughing and thinking about how to have fun with my friends even when standing at the stake. But when it comes time for the shot I just tune it all out. The laughing and ribbing keep me centered in a way that doesn't let worrying about a bad shot or the score dilute my concentration on the shot at hand.

The book "Free Throw" by Dr. Tom Amberry gives some good insight into this aspect of shooting, even though the book is about shooting a basketball. At the age of 73 he shot about 2,700 free throws in a row without missing. Now that is high quality concentration.

Hope I haven't rambled too much, since i really do feel my explanation is less than adequate.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: mich-mtnman on January 17, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
this may sound funny but i get into like a zen mode.
 i try to be the ultimate predator and slip thru the trees and woods trying to be aware of everything that is going on. i am aware of every step , leaves falling , wind changes , a flick of a tail or the horizontal line of the deer quietly making his way along.
 with all this going on around me all the time there is not much time to think about the shot or screwing up! remember what they say about practice...
 practice does NOT make perfect.
 
 PERFECT PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT.

 thats why i believe that stumping and stalking small game is the best thing to do to prepare you for the hunt. the rest will come natural. if you feel as if ..what if i miss , pluck the string  or fumble the draw...forget it. this means you probably didnt practice enough before season. we owe it to our game to take them quickly and as cleanly as we can.
 this may sound mushy but it pretty much sets US traditionalist apart from the rest. mtman
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: deerfly on January 17, 2005, 09:23:00 AM
thanks Doug, we came through everything fine, just some blow downs which convert nicely into firewood.  :)  Should be there in March too barring any business travel.

I didn't get into that subsconscious thing at the shot in my previous post because I read the question to be more in line with preparation for the shot, but it definitely happens for me too. Time stands still, everything in the world goes silent and then the shot happens. After that, precise recall of the release is foggy at best. - Eric
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Pat B on January 17, 2005, 09:50:00 AM
I concentrate on the "spot" and try not to think about the mechanics. I shoot as much as possible during the rest of the year so I don't have to "think" when the time comes...just do it!   Pat
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 17, 2005, 04:36:00 PM
I don't know why but I never worry about calming down before the shot. While it is coming and then when it happens I go cold and work like a machine till the arrow is gone.

There is no jitters, no buck fever no worries, no thinking, just cold decisions, it is like watching someone else make the shot. in front of the target face, I am nervous and distracted and thinking of the pretty girl standing next to me. I cant concentrate but get me in the woods and it is all gone while I am shooting.

I discoverd this about me while I was in the forces. on the range, a circle target just messes me up but put up a "crazy Ivan" and it all goes away. Even my DI noticed it, of course I was busy shooting the knees and privates out of all the targets but hey..
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: b.glass on January 17, 2005, 04:58:00 PM
I'm not sure of the answer to that question. But I distinctly remember one day when I was "there". My husband was watching my nephew and myself shooting. I was hitting the mark pretty consistantly. My nephew would shoot then I would shoot. After one of my shots my husband made the comment "It didn't work did it?" My nephew had this disgusted look on his face and then I recalled that he had been saying something as I was shooting. That's when I realized he had been trying to distract me. I was "there". I'm with Shaun, It's when I don't feel like I have to "do" anything that I shoot the best. How do you get "there"...? I'll have to think about that!
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: splat38 on January 17, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
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Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: splat38 on January 17, 2005, 05:45:00 PM
New UK member .Hi you lucky people.Wish i lived in a country where bow hunting was leagle.
For me when i make the perfect shot i know as soon as the string slides off my tab that it's a hit.
This is the magic that keeps me shooting,plus the fact that stuff occasionaly gets in the way of my already released arrows.Remember the good shots,forget the bad ones.
Like training a dog:keep it positive
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: paradocs on January 17, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
I knew that was comin'
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: B.O.D. on January 17, 2005, 06:34:00 PM
Noelle, I think mmmmm, this is going to be tasty in my cast iron skillet w/ mushrooms, biscuits and gravy....... I'm a father of 6, gotta think meat lady. lol! ASHSTYK
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: twobows on January 17, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
Noelle,
  I have never been calm when a deer comes with in range, I make the call yes or no if I decide yes I go blank and look through the deer and it happens. A short blood trail and give thanks to the MAN
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: mikeschwister on January 17, 2005, 10:21:00 PM
I do best when I just shoot, focus on the spot and let it happen. Then I enjoy the uncontrollable shakes and pounding chest.  If I ever get over that part I will probable quit.

Mike
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: gregg dudley on January 17, 2005, 10:21:00 PM
I always visualize 3d targets as game animals and I build a running commentary in my head.  "He's coming in, he dropped his head, pick a spot..."  I never have a sense of urgency when I am target shooting unless the season is approaching and I am shooting poorly.  I can get disgusted if I start making a series of errant shots, but it is still fun.

When I hit a hunting scenario, I do the same thing.  A little auto pilot voice runs through the narration until the opportunity presents itself and then I blank out conscious thought except for "pick a spot," and make the shot.  My theory is that by visualizing hunting scenarios during practice, I am making the actual hunt a more familiar experience.

I always remember the sight picture, but I very rarely remember making a conscious decision to shoot. What Jeff said before has a lot of merit.

Now, after the shot?  That's another story.  I come unglued after the shot!
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Tom Leemans on January 18, 2005, 08:51:00 AM
I've found that if I breathe calmly, the adrenaline shakes go away after about 30 seconds. It seems much longer than that but I've timed it.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: N. Naiden on January 18, 2005, 11:40:00 AM
"then I go blank" - that is exactly what I think many people do - they are doing something to center themselves and focus but may not know what they are doing?

I loved Shawn's reply, "I do nothing" - talk about Zen, that's perfect.

I have used a visualization sequence called 'grounding' and it works with breath and breathing, but I often wonder if there are better methods to doing it.

I have read Zen and the Art of Archery over and over, and confess my western mind sometimes gets in my way.

It is a combinations of opposites though, the comment of "tension and relaxation" rings true.

And it makes sense that military style trainging would help greatly - can anyone tell a totally uninitiated person exactly what is Marie style, or military style, training in shooting? Other that accuracy skills, do military agencies teach about staying centered and still in the midst of chaos? How do they do it?

One friend who was a Green Beret in Vietnam told me his preparation was far superior to those who were drafted - he listed the things he had been trained in, but never mentioned stillness, or centering. There are lots of names that would apply.

Thank you for the responses! For me this is the trick to being consistent - my form is fairly consistent, my quieted mind is another story....
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Weasel on January 18, 2005, 12:27:00 PM
"How do you quiet yourself?"

One word; Xanax    "[laffsmyl]"  

I TRY to remember to exhale slowly and focus on "the spot".  I remember the last buck I killed. I caught myself looking at the whole lung area, then narrowed my focus on a small spot at the tip of the elbow. It was really weird when I did that. My concentration went into a "tunnel vision" mode, just sorta zoomed in from the whole side to the small spot as if it were really in a tunnel. Funny what our minds do in those adrenaline filled situations.

Did I mention Xanax?
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: insttech1 on January 18, 2005, 01:43:00 PM
Noelle...
Military-level marksmanship training is hard to explain...

I will give you an analogy that applies more toward rifle shooting, but applies to all disciplines...

bear in mind--this does not relate to "combat" conditions--this is about long-range precision and focus for marksmanship, specifically 500-meter open sights against torso silhouettes...

Form is first, as in anything requiring precision...and in archery, everyone has minor variations, so I can't tell you much except you must concentrate on consistency above all else...

You must be able to focus on your target, but not to the exclusion of all else...you have to keep some tiny portion of your mind "open" to external influence, like someone shouting cease fire, or determining that there are more deer behind the one you just drew on, etc...

I hear some people can not keep from shooting once they're drawn, and that just doesn't cut it for me...so therefore some little portion of that calculator still has to be free to work...

In true precision work, after your form and environmental variables, the next two detractors are breathing and heart rate...believe it or not, the ebb and flow of your blood thru your body changes the position of whatever you're holding, in tiny increments...just try and focus a rifle on a pop bottle at 500 yards....you'll see what I mean...

But the heart's rate and breathing can be controlled, to an extent...

It is natural to become excited on a game animal...but once you commit to the shot, that's when the body goes into autonomous function, IF YOU HAVE PRACTICED ENOUGH!!

You are striving for unconscious concentration, with conscious movement, as you know that too much movement will attract attention...

But once you get in a position to draw, and subsequently shoot, your body should remember, thru repetition, the steps required execute a good shot...

The steps are basically: form, breathing, and heart rate, release control, and follow-thru...

Form should come OK, thru practice...
Breathing takes more time...because of the added excitement of live game...same goes for heartrate..

Release control is just that--even though some say  you shouldn't know when it happens...well, you should!  That's is what controls where we hit...by knowing when to execute the shot after we pick an impact point to hit...it's just the last few milliseconds that the breath is held, and the heart has slowed to where the body knows you are steady enough to shoot--even if you don't!

Granted, you DO NOT KNOW THIS as it is happening, it just comes together...

The way to make it come together, though, is through enough practice of controlling your form on targets, that the body automatically reverts to that form when you draw on critters--including sub-conscious control of breathing, heart rate, release, and follow-thru...

I know some of this is jumbled, and maybe out of order, but in essence, once you have all of the aspects of your form down, there are three portions of your mind that we be "working"...

One is excited as all hell...
It's subconscious brother is stopping adrenaline production for 2 seconds as you shoot...
And the safety nazi in the back of your head is watching to make sure everything else is a "go"...

Hope this helps some...will check back later...
Marc
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: insttech1 on January 20, 2005, 11:44:00 PM
ttt for noelle...
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on January 21, 2005, 12:20:00 AM
Noelle,


One thing that really helps is to visualize a perfect arrow as you begin your draw.  Practice it in front of a blank target.  Shoot calmy, in control until you execute one that is just right.  Then, the next few shots your goal is to see that perfecct arrow and let your mind "make it so".

After a while you will see your target approach the spot, being your draw and already be thinking "Yeah, like that."  the arrow is gone before you have time for more than that.


You know what?  This is one heck of a lot harder to write about than to do.  We adults complicate the heck outta the simplest things.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Mike Brown on January 21, 2005, 03:18:00 AM
If I shot in a traditional dress after work I would keep quiet about it too...  :)
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Roger Norris on January 21, 2005, 07:56:00 AM
Honestly, I can't say. I don't know. When it's on, it's on, when I can't "get the focus", it's not on....I am forever trying to figure out why I shot well on a given day. I spend more time tryig to figure out why things went well, so that I can duplicate it. When I shoot lousy, I may analyze obvious stuff, like the mechanics of my form, but for the most part I just put the bow up and do something else. I almost typed that my focus is always on while in the woods.....but then I thought back to my pattern of choking on big bucks....I do know that if I start thinking about how nice that mount is going to look on my wall, I ALWAYS choke.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: jporter@work on January 21, 2005, 08:10:00 AM
I set up an obstacle course between my longest shot and the 3d at home.  There are a couple of things in there that will deflect the arrow off target.  You have to focus on the arrow path and nothing else.  It took my son-in-law instantly to a new level of accuracy and confidence.  (I have a big back stop and 40 acres of woods behind the range.)
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Roger Norris on January 21, 2005, 08:16:00 AM
jporter - that's a heck of an idea. One of those so simple "why didn't I think of that" things. Thanks!
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Warren H. Womack on January 21, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
I think a lot of folks seem to make this harder than it really is.

Don't think, don't plan, just take the shot.

Warren
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Charlie Lamb on January 21, 2005, 10:13:00 AM
As for me... just taking the bow in hand seems to "quiet" me. It's all the rest of the time I need help with.   :D
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Huntschool on January 21, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
This may be overkill but here goes.....

Given everything that has been said about the "mental Zen type zone.. consider this.

Shooting in any genera is a subconscious response to a conscious demand.  The problem shows up when the conscious tries or is allowed to take over the operation.

Analogy:  Let’s compare brain function to computer size.  The conscious brain is about the size and ability of your common desk top.  The subconscious however would fill a 110 story one block square building something on the order of a super super computer.  Which one do you think should be in control of your shot?

I teach this concept in my NSCA instruction classes.  Kind of, after lots of practice, "if it feels right shoot.

There is no conscious effort once the shot has been started.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: StephenR on January 21, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
I agree with most of these posts,but for me I learn everything the hard way,and for me I had to take enough animals to be able to "hold it together" and make the shot.By this I mean I shot several animals when i was so tore up I dont know how i drew the bow.Then I fall apart and my knees go to knocking and shakeing,and heart jumps out of my chest.How many animals?I dont know?
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Littlefeather on January 21, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
I cannot quiet myself. I do not try to quiet myself. I do not wish to quiet myself. The rush of adrenaline is what I live for. If it was gone I would cease to bowhunt.

I have taught myself composure though. Its a personal thing that I cannot convey though. CK
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: insttech1 on January 21, 2005, 12:50:00 PM
I agree with Littlefeather...

The "rush", knowing that you may harvest an animal, is awesome.

The goal is not cold, calculated shooting, at least during bowhunting, anyway...target shooting is another matter...and I rarely apply precision-level form when I practice with my bow...because I want it to be FUN!  I'm still consistent, and enjoy good shots and good groups, but I like to screw around and sling an arrow at 70,80, 90 yards at stuff laying around the yard, 'cause I enjoy it!

But anyway, I believe there should be a tiny lapse in the excitement, as the actual shot is executed.  Before and after are heart-pounding, but it's just the brief period--from the time you commit to the actual shot, to the follow-thru--where your ingrained subconscious slows you down a bit, then you go right into "THAT WAS AWESOME" mode...

Thanks,
Marc
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Douglas DuRant on January 21, 2005, 06:16:00 PM
Composure is a good word for some of this. Confidence is another aspect. I think the adrenaline may even enhance subconscious performance, while it often seems to discombobulate the conscious.

Dr. Amberry says a pre shot ritual is a good way to set the stage for making a good shot. He bounces the basket ball 3 times before shooting. He focuses on the black rubber inflation hole as he does this then he looks at the basket and makes the shot. He says it is like an auto hypnotic suggestion which clears his mind as he concentrates his focus on the shot. He also says if your conscious mind can't seem to let go give it something to do like count or repeat a phrase like reach full draw, or follow though.

I focus on the spot I wish to hit and open and close my bow hand to check my grip then put tension on my string fingers as I bring the arrow up inline. This is my pre shot ritual.

Unlike Dr Amberry who doesn’t miss a basket, I do make bad shots from time to time. ;o}
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: splat38 on January 26, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
Found the monkey ...whatdo you know, he was on my back all the time .Maybe i missed the point in my first post to this site:In the UK we don'hunt..we stump shoot.Now if something gets in the way of an arrow,well,thats just bad luck.Bow hunting is not allowed in the UK.Having said that,due to the number of accidents we have,some during broadhead practice,i must add that the size of prey makes no difference:they all deserve the same respect.Pick a spot...search you'r heart
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: splat38 on January 26, 2005, 07:14:00 PM
Found the monkey ...whatdo you know, he was on my back all the time .Maybe i missed the point in my first post to this site:In the UK we don'hunt..we stump shoot.Now if something gets in the way of an arrow,well,thats just bad luck.Bow hunting is not allowed in the UK.Having said that,due to the number of accidents we have,some during broadhead practice,i must add that the size of prey makes no difference:they all deserve the same respect.Pick a spot...search you'r heart
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: N. Naiden on January 28, 2005, 02:10:00 AM
What IS a 'traditional dress?'  I'm sure I don't have any!

I'm not sure if this question, or the answers, make the process more complicated. It is rarely as simple as 'just take the shot' though, and learning to be still, to be aware of surroundings and to forget the  ceaseless distraction of Self is essential to hunting well. Ortega i Gasset's quote about being alert comes to mind.

I started out shooting without a goal of stillness prior to the shot. Monty pointed out that successful hunting, for him, involved not projecting his intention with his attention to the animal - because the animal can sense the intention.  We had many conversations about sheilding the intention, and finally about not permitting it to surface in to consciousness until the arrow was released. It is a disconnecting in order to concentrate, to make the process come from muscle memory rather than cognition, and in order to avoid making a connection with the animal that will send the message for it to run.

After that I began examining ways that I could do it, and practice it, both while hunting and elsewhere.  The adrenaline response always comes after the arrow is long gone, and unlike some it is not a feeling I have ever really enjoyed, whether in a kayak on a river, or in the forest. It is trying to manipulate my own awareness and responses that provides the mystery I seem to never solve.

And one I don't mind puzzling over.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: B.O.D. on January 28, 2005, 06:26:00 AM
Noelle, I don't think an animal can sense your impending death thoughts...maybe if they catch a glimpse of you eyes, then just maybe. Deer, elk, moose, etc, all have a super tuned flight response geared towards us 2 legged predators, we did afterall evolve at the same time, us a thier predator, them as our prey. I highly doubt my Algonquin ancestors ever worried about projection problems. They did pretty well at feeding themselves. They did take a great deal of time to thank and pay homage to the game they killed, but this was more to keep them in favour with the power(s) above. Game animals do not think problems or threats out, they simply react to their surroundings, if you are not there , they know it, if you are there and any one thing in a multitude of things is out of place, scent , wind,movement etc....they know that to. you have to have everything in place to beat them. I have been shaking so bad before a shot  that I thought the deer would hear my arrow rattling off the bow, still killed the deer... if they had of winded, heard or saw me, I would have had no shot. Plain and simple. Not being sexist in any way( just looking at the facts), but I think the hunting -adrenaline response you speak of is a fairly new( last 5,000 years or so) evoulutionary thing for the female sex. Men evolved to be hunters, hence the heavier bones,( not always true, my wife can probably outlift most men I know, think it is the hormone-laced milk thing of the 70's...lol!) greater speed and strength, and our hairy faces! It still gets to me sometimes, the feeling of a deflated balloon after I kill an animal, quickly goes though. Keep at it Noelle, just asking the question is saying that you are having an inner war with your own genome. sounds like you are winning! ASHSTYK  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Dalebow on January 28, 2005, 12:17:00 PM
Noelle

I know I had to slow down to put my bow together and string it before I could approach my lion a few days ago and the whole time I just focused on each task and it helped calm me down from my chase.  I told myself to pick a spot and then I did what I do before any shot I pray, I ask for a clean hit or no hit at all, I thank God for the opportunity that I hope to soon come.

Dale
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Irondog on January 28, 2005, 10:49:00 PM
I shot a "rifle" for the Marine Corps many moons ago.  The visualization of a large yellow maple leaf fluttering (slowly)down to the ground, calmed my shots. I carried it over and used on archery. The thing with this technique, is that you can use it on warm up draws, or visualizing your kill shot.  Sorry if that one's kinda weird.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Alsea on January 29, 2005, 12:08:00 AM
"In the moment before the release what do you do to calm yourself, or quiet yourself, so the shot will fly true?"

I just take a parsec to make sure that my anchor is solid, my stance is fully extended, the shot is lined up and then I let it go.

I visualize the trajectory of the arrow to the target. I pick a spot before I start to draw and bring everything into alignment with it.

In practice I try to complete the movements from picking a spot, starting to draw, drawing the bow to anchor and release as one.

I love to watch Howard Hill shoot. His form is so fliud that I can never catch the moment that he hesitates before the arrow flies.
Title: Re: How do you quiet yourself?
Post by: Alsea on January 29, 2005, 12:51:00 AM
As some have said, confidence comes with the doing.

I've been hunting for a very long time. I've taken so many animals that it's been a long, long time since I've experienced any kind of emotion or nerves leading up to the shot. I'm just intensely focused on getting the job done right. No shakes or tremors.

All my kills have been from the ground. I'm usually on a par with my quarry and many times it's aware of me before I kill it. Things usually happen fast.

My emotion comes as I near the fallen critter, sometimes while it is still expiring. I try to extend the moment and relive the details of the hunt for a bit before I have to get to work taking care of the meat. I am respectful of the animals gift of sustenance and superstitious enough to say a few words of thanks.