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State Trad Bowhunting Orgs => WISCONSIN - Wisconsin Traditional Archers => Topic started by: ChuckC on August 20, 2014, 09:41:00 PM

Title: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on August 20, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
I drew a wolf tag (Wisconsin) this year.  Having never chased one of them critters, in fact, having never actually SEEN one in the wild,  any and all help, guidance and pointers will be very much appreciated.

Thanks

ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on August 27, 2014, 10:00:00 PM
Good Luck Chuck.  From What I have heard there are quite a  few to go around, of course that's just hear say.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on August 28, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
Thank you Charlie.  I will give er hell !
ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Kevin Winkler on August 28, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
Chuck,

When I bear hunted last year around Drummond the guy that baited for me had a lot of wolf sightings. We had pictures of them coming into baits quite often, he had some guys that planned on sitting in those areas last year. If you need his phone number just let me know.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on August 30, 2014, 09:43:00 AM
Thanks Kevin.  let's see where this goes.  I am gonna start the scouting trail shortly.  I want a wolf !  

Would it be in poor taste to have a wolf, if I am so lucky as to actually harvest one, full body mounted ?
CHuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Kevin Winkler on August 30, 2014, 08:35:00 PM
I would imagine that a full body mount would set you back a few nickels, but what the heck! What else do you have to spend your money on.

Good luck chasing your wolf.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on September 03, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
The largest issue with Full body mounts aside from expense is a  place to keep it.

Best of Luck Chuck, I hope you have such a conundrum on your hands. seems to be a  good problem to have.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: doubleo on September 04, 2014, 06:32:00 PM
Good luck to you Chuck! I hope you try with a trad. bow! But, that's entirely up to you.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 07, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Thanks Guys.  I was kinda hoping someone would agree to tie one up for me the day before season so I could "find it" opening day !     :dunno:    :nono:   OK, not really.

It is the journey, not the destination that makes us really live.
ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: don kauss on September 09, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
Good luck Chuck...

I just saw a Wolf rug mount in Alaska, and it was stunningly beautiful...
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on September 20, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
Hey Chuck, my name is Dave. I'm a new member of the WTA. Just thought I'd mention that I live in the Minocqua area and know several places to get you close to wolves, if you're interested? I've already seen two this past week while out bowhunting. Let me know, I'd be happy to help!
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 20, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
Dave

I just may be calling on you before season !  I am going to be scouting the southern areas first, starting in about a week.  Then progress up north.

I am not totally set on using a longbow, but If I can do it, I will.  I never wolf hunted so I really don't know if I will need to reach out or if i can maybe get close to one.  Would much rather get close.

Thank you for that offer
ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on September 21, 2014, 06:30:00 PM
Not a problem Chuck. I'll keep some cameras going and try to keep tabs on them in case you need to head this way. My family owns a resort so as long as you give me enough notice, I should be able to put you up in one of our cottages which will help keep your expenses down.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 22, 2014, 06:27:00 PM
wow, incredible offer, thank you

How close can you get to the wolves ?  Is this over bear bait or trails or what ?  15 yards ?

Thanks
ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on September 23, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
No these haven't been over bear baits. What I believe is happening is the past 2 winters really knocked the deer populations down in the bigger woods where the wolves held their strongholds. The deer densities noticibly increase as I hunt woods closer to towns and the wolves seem to be following them. As far as how close we've been, my girlfriend had one trot by her at about 25 yards and 2 days later in a completely different area, I watched one cruise a clearcut edge at about 40 yards. My recommendation would be to dedicate enough time to this to at least try get one with the trad gear and have a rifle option available. I'm betting that some fawn distress calling may make for some memorable experiences!
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 23, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
OK, now I am getting excited.
CHuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Greg Szalewski on September 24, 2014, 05:30:00 AM
All right Chuck, I can see it now. You are dressed like a jogger or use a little foo foo dog for bait and you take the first wolf in WI with a stick bow.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 24, 2014, 09:00:00 AM
Shhhh.  you are giving away my secret. .  the foo foo dog.

Now I am gonna have to pay more for one somewhere.

If I am so blessed to actually see and kill a wolf while hunting with a stick bow, you guys here will know about it, but there will be no book or article about any firsts etc.  I have no desire for that tag.

ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: BowHuntingFool on September 24, 2014, 03:40:00 PM
That awesome Chuck, good luck brother!
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on September 25, 2014, 08:32:00 PM
When is your Season Chuck?  I am really hoping you see some!
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 26, 2014, 10:49:00 PM
The season starts mid October if I recall correctly, and runs till , like January, or until the quota is met, which will be well before January (historically).

Its too bad they start so soon cause the pelts can use another two months of winter to get more prime.  I wonder why they don't allow for that ?
CHuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on September 26, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
Hey Chuck,
If you do plan to head up my way, be sure to check with the DNR and confirm which zones the north central part of the state are and on average, about when those zones have reached their quotas. You don't want to wait too late into the season just to have a zone close on you.
Dave.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 27, 2014, 08:57:00 AM
Thank you,  Gonna start searching very soon.  Pouring a foundation today, so its gonna be a little while anyways.  Seen any recently ?

CHuck
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on September 27, 2014, 11:31:00 PM
No. I'm in Phoenix on business this week. Heading home tomorrow. I hope to get out Monday or Tuesday for a bit then Wednesday I head to Denver. I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on September 28, 2014, 11:40:00 AM
Thank You.  Might have to drive up there within the next ten days and actually see what you are describing.  Sure couldn't hurt . .  I like it up there !

Thanks again for your help
Chuck
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on October 01, 2014, 06:26:00 AM
Well, I got out for the day on Monday but nothing exciting to report. Saw one doe about mid morning and that was that for the day. Covered about 4 miles on the day and hardly saw any fresh sign. Next time I'm home I'll be heading back out where I had the wolf pass by me. I'll keep you posted. Give me a heads up if you're heading north so I can try to fudge my schedule around to be home.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on October 01, 2014, 02:07:00 PM
Well, let's keep talking.  This week I am taken, but after that I can devote time to the hunt.  I can run up there and take a look at the area almost any time now.  I really appreciate your help up there.

ChuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: Dfudala on October 02, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
Its no trouble. You've got a great opportunity to pursue a very special creature there and possibly make some history along the way! I would be happy to help to make that possible for you. The odds are definitely not in your favor, but that's mainly what makes this so special. My knowledge of the areas I know they inhabit are unfortunately all I have to offer, but I don't want this to end up feeling like a "guided" hunt for you either. You should come out of this experience with a sense of self-satisfaction whether you're successful or not. Believe me, just seeing one, out in it's element is quite a moving experience! I will be home next Monday and Tuesday, then out of town the rest of the week into the following.
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on December 08, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
Well, this went from excitement to a bitch session for me.

I went out on opening day and spent the entire day driving around the general area of Black River Forest, driving the back roads (mostly sand and gravel) looking for tracks, sign, stopping routinely to call and watch.  It was a great day and I had a hell of a time.   After dark,on the drive home, on hwy 90/94 (whichever it is just south of BRF) I actually saw a wolf in the median. No doubt what it was.  For that I am thankful.  My first wild wolf sighting.  Kinda pumped.

Two days later the first area closed and by the end of the first weekend three areas were closed.

My bitch. . .  I went into this thing wanting to hunt for a wolf, not race like hell to kill or trap one that, frankly, because the season starts so dang early could not possibly be in prime pelt condition.

The wolf season for 2014 is now closed.  As I understand, more than 85% of the wolves taken this year went to trappers.  Now, don't get me wrong, I have no ill against trapping, but I was pumped to hunt, to experience a close encounter, not set a trap.

I didn't go again, but I plan to make my voice heard, not that they will listen.  I also will not participate any further in wolf tag donations.  They meant well, but when it came down to it, I think they screwed the pooch (and a lot of us "hunters").

Just my humble opinion.  Sorry for being a downer.

CHuckC
Title: Re: Crying wolf
Post by: ChuckC on January 08, 2015, 09:54:00 AM
I received ( and filled out) a very large survey regarding my wolf hunt.  It appears, based upon the questions, that I was not alone in my assessment.  I hope any future wolf hunts are altered to reflect some suggestions.

BTW, if you haven't already heard... the wolves were just recently re-listed due to yet another court case, so a season in 2015 is not a sure thing.
CHuckC