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Title: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 11, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
I just read this somewhere. And no, t'was not a guy but a GAL spake those self-limiting words. Though the originator of that statement knew me not, she punched my button as surely as a blind bullet fired at 45 degrees into the heavens might find its way back through the leafy canopy and strike me in my deerstand.

Not for girls?

It all started with Artemis..Diana if you will. The singlemost damaging role model ever displayed to young women. Devoted to the chase and the healing arts, and to children, she has led many of us down the garden path and into the woods.

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There were others, of course, Amazons and other mythological archers, and as the timeline blends into our own era, the light is cast more boldly, female archers are limned in greater clarity, and reflect the great diversity with which the Earth is blessed.

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Now, I am not a girl, but a full-grown (overgrown) woman, and I started shooting as a girl of nine. I have had a lifetime of people telling me what I couldn't do or had to do because of my being female. I rejected it, I fought it, and have spent my time on Earth determining what I thought was worthwhile and what I thought was Shinola. I have pursued the worthwhile and gotten rid of the fertilizer as best as I could.

If shooting is not for women, then there are a whole lot of us deluded gals out there doing it. And it would take someone stronger than me to tell these proud girls, growing into confident, capable women, that what they did was wrong.

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So, where can all of this lead a poor misguided woman? There is stumping, backyard fun and 3-D shoots. It is a fun thing to be able to teach your kids, and while away an afternoon.
There is of course, Trad Gang. Or the Olympics.  Olympic video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mu-531wS0&feature=related)  
Any number of paths lead the merry archers' feet into adventures and victories, self-improvement and analysis, defeats and rethought strategies. What endears me most to archery is that it gives me great excuses. Doing dishes softens my fingers and ruins my release. Can't do anything in the kitchen because the arrows are drying, propped on the counter up against the cabinets. Can't sweep, I made the broom into a bowscale.

Basically, housework isn't for girls who shoot bows.  :bigsmyl:  
Killdeer ~just thought I'd share a rant. And now you know where the button is. Certainly not on my lip!
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Post by: adeeden on May 11, 2008, 09:19:00 PM
Great post Killie!
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Post by: kyhuntertoo on May 11, 2008, 09:21:00 PM
that 'gal' you speak of sure must be shallow minded  :knothead:
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Post by: pdk25 on May 11, 2008, 09:28:00 PM
I wish more women were raised in an environment that encouraged them to pursue outdoor activities like archery.  Less pink for little girls; save it for the red of a blood trail.
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Post by: pine nut on May 11, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
Woo Hoo! Git it done Gal! Ought to be more like you IMO.  At the 4-H shoot this weekend I was glad to see a bunch of girls shooting and the best one I saw was a girl.  Don't want her to shoot at me!  I always liked the "tom boy" sort myself.  They seem more real to me.
As usual, I enjoy your writing, even on a rant, as you say.
the nutty pine
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Post by: Killdeer on May 11, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
Working in the kitchen...

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Killdeer
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Post by: Bowspirit on May 11, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
Oh, go Killie!!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  

This whole thread is just awesome...
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Post by: Peckerwood on May 11, 2008, 09:39:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: b.glass on May 11, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
Amen sister!  :clapper:
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Post by: Big_Al on May 11, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
Don't forget the late great Ann Weber Hoyt.
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Post by: Aeronut on May 11, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
That was a cool video Killie.  I wish my two daughters would take more of an interest in archery.

Dennis
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Post by: Shaun on May 11, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
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Post by: pointy sticks on May 11, 2008, 10:55:00 PM
Not for girls you say ?   Better not tell my two

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Post by: MYSTIKBOW on May 11, 2008, 10:59:00 PM
NOT FOR GIRLS??  You'd never get my wife and daughters to believe that one.   :archer:
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Post by: Dale Hajas on May 11, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
Having taught many many kids and adults about shooting bowsnarrahs I can attest to the fact that gals- be they little ones or more seasoned- are much easier to teach and learn faster.    :scared:  so I can be like her because everybody has longbows...lol
  :readit:  

Very well ranted there Killy  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Steve Kendrot on May 11, 2008, 11:08:00 PM
Killdeer....perhaps you'll shoot a round with my wife and daughter and me this weekend in Baltimore?
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Post by: Vicious Vickie on May 11, 2008, 11:19:00 PM
New to the site and so happy that I landed on this particular string.
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Post by: Dale Hajas on May 11, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
Welcome Aboard!!  :campfire:
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Post by: Brian Krebs on May 12, 2008, 12:20:00 AM
Killy I read the first two sentences of the start of this; and fell off my chair laughing!!
 
 Of all people to say that too; YOU!!! LOL !!!

I didn't grow up with the idea that hunting was limited to men; and one of my favorite photos I have is of Maryln Monroe; shooting a bow; with a real honest smile on her face; and a quiver full of broken arrows. She apparently had fun that day shooting a bow.  :)  

 I shot hunting tournaments with women; and there was a lady in the club that took a big five in Africa - never occured to me - that people would think archery or bowhunting as a manly man thing.

 I would have loved to see the expression on your face !! That would make the perfect tradgang T shirt !!!   LOL !!
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Post by: BowHuntingFool on May 12, 2008, 12:25:00 AM
Great thread! This is a great way of life for all!
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Post by: JAG on May 12, 2008, 12:34:00 AM
Killie, You're great!  Are you related to my "Bride"?  No one has ever been able to tell her, she couldn't do that....she'd prove 'em very wrong.  In fact she's my best a favorite hunting parterner.  I've seen her stalk a pig 'round and 'round the bush.  She's helped me clean her deer, and she alot better at cleaning squriel and rabbit than I am.  The only trouble is her horse bussiness has gotten so big, we don't get time to hunt together, much anymore.
Carry it to 'em!  Me, the Mule and the Red Dog will have your back!
JAG/Johnny
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Post by: laddy on May 12, 2008, 01:28:00 AM
I have also heard that women cannot paddle canoes or go on wilderness canoe trips, at least that is what a Minnesota motor boater told me. Except for the thousands of women that are in the Boundarywaters every year.  Nearly half of the deer and fish I eat my wife is responsible for taking.
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Post by: Stone Knife on May 12, 2008, 05:17:00 AM
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Post by: 4runr on May 12, 2008, 06:11:00 AM
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A little pink is OK for a shooter.

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Post by: Stone Knife on May 12, 2008, 06:17:00 AM
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Post by: Matt Fowler on May 12, 2008, 07:47:00 AM
Sometimes I think my daughter will be more of an outdoor person than my 2 sons.

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Post by: leatherneck on May 12, 2008, 08:04:00 AM
Kathy,

For a kitchen gal, you sure can brew up some good looking arrows.
Someone better not tell my 12 year old daughter that she's not allowed to shoot a bow. They might get a judo in the butt!!!

Good post Killie and stay strong!
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Post by: 2fletch on May 12, 2008, 08:09:00 AM
I have done volunteer programs for about 7 years now around NC where many kids (and a few adults) get a chance to shoot their first arrow. It's been my experience that the girls are usually equal to the boys at the skill level. After that it's a trade off with the boys usually a little more aggressive, but the girls a little more attentive.

I love to see girls (young or mature) involved in archery. Makes for a more rounded sport.
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Post by: swp on May 12, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
I guess I shouldn't tell either one of these two that cause the love to shoot bows, guns and hunt.
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Post by: leatherneck on May 12, 2008, 08:16:00 AM
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This was my daughters first year hunting. The smile on her face tells it all. Excuse the gun but not big enough to hunt with a legal bow as of yet.

Kathy it's ladies like you that inspire young girls like Marissa.
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Post by: Chopie on May 12, 2008, 08:33:00 AM
I never saw any girls in archery, onjy ladies. BOB
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Post by: Tom Leemans on May 12, 2008, 09:03:00 AM
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on May 12, 2008, 09:08:00 AM
Gotta love folks that limit themselves based on gender roles...

I guess this means I can't cook or do laundry anymore?
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Post by: BEN on May 12, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
Not for Girls???
My younger sister is a senior at a Catholic High school in Nebraska and took up archery just  kind of on a whim. she loves to shoot, but doesn't get a whole lot of time to do it.  
However, 2 weeks ago, she finished 3rd. in the State of Nebraska's school archery tournament!!!  :archer:  
I think I'm getting scared she might see this thread!  :biglaugh:
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Post by: snag on May 12, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
Archery is for EVERYONE! That is one of the great qualities of bow and arrow. Both of my daughters did not take to archery. But if you would have told them they couldn't do it...stand back and watch determination followed by success!   Good post Killie!  I like what you "cooked up" in the kitcken.
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Post by: Mohawkbows on May 12, 2008, 09:52:00 AM
Youngest daughter is coming over today to shoot with the ol man.......that would be the daughter that started when she was 4 years old and at 21 has three deer and two elk to her credit!
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Post by: Nakohe on May 12, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
Raised all four of my daughters to hunt and fish. They all still love to camp and fish. Two still hunt with their husbands. Other two did not take to hunting as much, but they all love the outdoors and love eating wild game. Better not tell any of them that girls can not do things. As kids they wupped up on two teenage boys that were trying to bully the youngest. Try getting 4 women mad at you and see what happens to ya. LOL

Love the thread and rant Killie.
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Post by: Dutch152 on May 12, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
Amen
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Post by: mike g on May 12, 2008, 10:33:00 AM
Very good post Killy....
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Post by: Bard1 on May 12, 2008, 10:36:00 AM
Once again Killy your post is both well written and to the point.  I agree whole heartedly.
D-
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Post by: olderndirt on May 12, 2008, 01:12:00 PM
You might not want to explain to this "little girl" why girls can't shoot ...

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Post by: Paul/KS on May 12, 2008, 03:42:00 PM
Great post as usual Killdeer. Couple Mojams ago there were some great pictures of my ,then, 5 year old daughter shooting her hedge bow that I made her. She's since outgrown that one but she'll be at Mojam again this year shooting something else. Sure wish we could get Killy west of the Mississippi so she can meet and inspire the kids out here...and some of us "adults" too.
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Post by: Sandman808 on May 12, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Good string.
I have taught many young men and women to shoot but one of the memporable students was one of the boys mothers, 4 years ago.  She took to archery faster than her son and I had her grouping nicely by the end of the first day.  When I asked if she wanted to try the Rifle she said "not enough challenge with a gun".  She is a school teacher and continues to shoot a recurve till today.
Aloha
Steven
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Post by: Killdeer on May 12, 2008, 05:36:00 PM
Wow! Matt's daughter is having the childhood I wish I could have had! No guns in my family, I had to move away from home before I could buy a BB gun. I don't know why I was allowed a bow, especially at nine, and with no guidance. Guess they thought it was a toy, and they sure weren't going to buy me the suit of armor that I saw at the toy store. Dang I wanted that!!   :D    I credit my mom with getting me the bow, and as time goes on I understand that she knew me better than I will ever know myself. She bought me another when I was thirteen, and yet another when I was fifteen. I hope she can see where I have gone in the twenty-five years since she died.

As far as inspiration goes, you have no idea how my heart swells up and my whole spirit glows when I look upon all these wonderful daughters and mothers, walking the old trails in the old ways, and partaking of the mysterious gifts of life and death, of creation and the eternal circle that are laid out for us wherever we allow the Maker's works to stand. Without it, I would be dead inside.

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Killdeer
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Post by: Keefer on May 12, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
Killdeer,  In your first post I saw the pic of a fella from my neck of the woods with his girl and wife ( I hope it's his wife cause I aint met her yet) but the guy is Steve Kendrot and a super cool Dad to this little girl....I shot with them a few weeks ago and this girl is very good with her bow...Steve and I have a lot in commen and it was funny to see this post because I have a 28 month old adopted daughter sitting in my lap holding an old hickery bow that I am getting ready to make a string for and she is already saying "buck" and pointing the bow at the ones on the wall...Her name is Ande named after my grandma Edna....We flipped the name around....I look at Steve and his daughter who I believe is Ally or Alexandria and can't wait to have pics shooting with my daughter one day...They are a good team and I enjoy shooting with them when they're at our range at Tuckahoe....Now I gotta get a little back quiver,arm gaurd,glove and some arrows made for Ande and she will be set to shoot...Is 28 months to soon?  Heck she already is sayin "Buck" God Bless, Keefers <")))><
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Post by: sendero25 on May 12, 2008, 06:35:00 PM
"Not for Girls"? She should meet my fragile little 5'3" 110lb wife, maybe not, she might get a punch in the solar plexus. My wife was a Marine and Army Military Police officer and she hunts with bow and firearm. Strange girl, she liked the move "300" as well as "Ghost". She wears a dress but also likes camo with her snake boots.
Thanks for the thread Killdeer, she'll love to read this when she gets home from visiting her mom this week,
John
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Post by: Stone Knife on May 12, 2008, 06:46:00 PM
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Post by: Killdeer on May 12, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
That is one terrific pic, Jim!

So, THAT'S Steve Kendrot? I was bumming around with Bernie and saw this cool family. I asked for a pic and they graciously allowed it. They represented to me what the Baltimore shoot is all about. Hope to see them AND YOU there this weekend, Keefer! And no, 28 months is not too young. Take pics.
Killdeer  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Jay Campbell, JD on May 12, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
No Girlz Allowed!  :-) Pic of Karen Campbell, my wife, practicing with her 70# Adcock for her water buffalo last summer. Took it with one arrow.

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- Jay Campbell, JD
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Post by: 42WLA on May 12, 2008, 09:16:00 PM
Here is my four year old, Helen. She has been to two 3-D shoots with me so far this year.

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Post by: R.W. on May 12, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
My sis-in-law shoots recurve and compound. Hunts birds, deer, etc. Trains dogs, fixes the house (Thank God she can, cause her husband can't!   :D )
and all the rest.
The "frail girl" crap don't stand a chance around a woman who doesn't accept that idiot statement!
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Post by: ChuckC on May 12, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
Aw Killy.. Everyone knows girls can't shoot !

  :bigsmyl:  

OK.. I'm teasing..  Jay. don't let Karen hurt me...  

I made a bow for a young lady last summer who, if you told her she couldn't do it, would do it AND BEAT YOU at it just to show you she could..

I am betting if she ever gets the chance, she will carry out just as much elk as I could, again.. cause she can.

ChuckC
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Post by: SKYLER W on May 12, 2008, 11:26:00 PM
Miss Chloe Beth Wilson...My wife said She doesn't stand a chance.  :)    :)    :)  She's 17 months old and THE Boss! Just ask Skyler... (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/DSCN1252.jpg) (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/CIMG0779.jpg) (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/CIMG0896.jpg) (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/RSCN0342.jpg) (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/CIMG1563.jpg)
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Post by: thp on May 13, 2008, 02:05:00 AM
Jay, that is one strong wife you have!  70 pounds!  Wow!

Killy, wonder if you'd consider doing an arrow build-along?  I really like the pictures you have posted of your arrows.  It would be helpful for a noob, like myself, to see how someone like yourself makes all of those cool arras!

my girl at a 3d shoot a couple of years ago... girls can too shoot!
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Post by: V-Archer on May 13, 2008, 04:52:00 AM
Here's my youngest daughter shooting at two different events, first pic is at a holiday resort in Turkey, the second pic is at a fair last year. She was constantly hitting the yellow circle at 15 yards. She would outshoot several "guys"  in our archery club but I still cannot get her to join me in trad archery.   :(  

V-Archer   :archer:  

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Post by: Tim on May 13, 2008, 09:12:00 AM
Girls Rule      :pray:     .......I know my place in the home and at the fishing hole!  Don't have a photo of her with her bow but YES she shoots and shoots well!

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Post by: vermonster13 on May 13, 2008, 09:20:00 AM
Great thread Killie. We'll get some more "girls" shooting before the summers over too!
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Post by: flightmedic on May 13, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
dont tell this little red head.
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Post by: Traditionalfirst on May 13, 2008, 09:58:00 AM
My wife shoots and so does my 5 year old daughter, my daughter started shooting at the age of 3. I made her a red oak and black walnut longbow and she burns that thing up.
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Post by: Zinnia on May 13, 2008, 10:19:00 AM
Killdeer,
So nice to see this thread busy and beautiful!
All the pictures are wonderful....congrats to all parents who let their kids experence the beauty of nature and how to enjoy it properly.

I have enjoyed this thread....
Connie
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Post by: DeerSpotter on May 13, 2008, 01:12:00 PM
Earlier this year my Turkey Creek Longbow went to someone it was made just right for, and the PM was erased so I don't know name but I do remember her age, 11 years old.  And she's quite the shooter


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I think it's pretty cool, when a young gal like that, can start out with a three-piece takedown Turkey Creek Longbow,

Now that's quite a Dad, or should I say
"Daddy's girl"


Carl
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Post by: Madpigslayer on May 13, 2008, 01:44:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/madpigslayer/My%20Baby/haileyanddoughuntinggophers.jpg)

here is my boss with our favorite cowboy.

 Killdeer, I dont know nuthin 'bout no girls outfishing me my whole life...outshooting me at the range...heck, even in my Corporate World I dont know nuthin bout no girls doing all the hard work and just plain making me look good!

and for SURE they cant outcall me in the field...gosh, I need a nap, girls cant shoot indeed.   :help:  

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Post by: razorsharptokill on May 13, 2008, 03:26:00 PM
Well said! I had my daughters shooting bows as soon as possible. I like to think that that will be one of their fond memories of me.
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Post by: Terry Green on May 13, 2008, 03:46:00 PM
This is my 10 year old when she was 8....and she's tuff as nails at times let me tell ya when she gets her mind out of the way.

She hesitates till she sees that the arrow did go in between the shoulder bone and upper leg bone, then she confirms the shot....
   Doe Indian Sneak (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/terry11.wmv)  


Hard to see in the video....but she laid it right over the elbow...just barely,...just perfect.....   Boar Indian Sneak (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/terry21.wmv)  

Check out her form.....bow arm, and follow through.  What's amaizing is that before today, she hasn't shot since this spring.....   Rising Boar Sneak (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/terry31.wmv)

 Form Isolation.... (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/shoot3.wmv)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Terry Green on May 13, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
My little Sarah would really be mad at me if she knew I posted these...but this is just too funny not to. She was shooting good and having a blast...then she started to get a little frustrated at this Rhienhart target that kept bouncing her arrows off....then she miiiisssssed.


See, this little gal is soooo sweat, even keeled, and laid back....don't take much to keep her happy...but this little angel proves she's human every now and again.


We got the wheels back on in a jiffy with some chocolate milk, for this little gal, chocolate milk makes everything all better again.

She was 5 at the time.


 Smooth Sailing (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/MVI_2893.AVI)  

  Wheels are starting to wobble....6th bounce off (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/MVI_2895.AVI)  

  Little Miss Perfectionist...Lug nuts coming loose.... (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/MVI_2899.AVI)  

  She can hardly hold it in the road.... (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/MVI_2900.AVI)  

  And the wheels have come completely off.... (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/MVI_2897.AVI)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Keefer on May 13, 2008, 05:30:00 PM
Killdeer,  I can't make it there this weekend because I am helping out at our church with a Mother Daughter luncheon and we men folk are letting our dear ladys have the day off being served by us men....I was going to go but the Mrs. needs a day off at least once a year....I will try to get some pics of Ande my new daughter on here but I may need help trying to figure out how to get them off the camera and into this commonputer thing ma jig...I know of quite a few of the Eastern Shore guys and gals will be there....You all have fun and hope the weather holds out for you ....God Bless , Keefers <")))><
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Littlemans-Grampa on May 13, 2008, 06:21:00 PM
Girls and BOWS and I ain't talking about the kind they wear in their hair! I have 3 daughters and taught them how to shoot a bow & arrow, now there all growed up and hopefully there teaching their children what I tought them, I know the middle daughter who lives about 25miles away brings my grandson(5yo)over to shoot with me and he shoots at home with his mom. I recently divorced, and married a woman who loves to shoot the bow as much as I do, and she entered her 1st 3-D shoot and took 1st place, Great Job! I also teach Youth Archery and have had two young ladies, 15yo compete in the North American Indigenous Games and won Gold Medals in the Traditional Class. Women & Girls in my opinion have the most perfect shooting form in Archey.  My hats off to all female archers, and you Kathy for this fine thread.
May The Creator Bless Us All >>--->
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 13, 2008, 08:21:00 PM
Muz, you don't post often, and so I am honored that you posted here. Congratulations in teaching youngsters how to make one stick throw another. How terrific it must feel to have your students win the gold! Congrats on winning a winning wife, too.  :thumbsup:  

Keefers, the Missus comes first. So bring her to Baltimore.   :D   I know, I know. Give her a day of being served by men. And don't make a mess.  :rolleyes:  

I'm gonna go get some chocolate milk.
Killdeer  :archer:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Terry Green on May 13, 2008, 08:54:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Killdeer:


I'm gonna go get some chocolate milk.
Killdeer   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: eidsvolling on May 13, 2008, 08:59:00 PM
Great topic.  I have never met a female of any age who tried archery and didn't love it.  Lots of the older ones speak wistfully of doing it when younger.  We owe it to all potential archers and bowhunters, of any gender and age, to give them that chance as we are able.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on May 13, 2008, 10:06:00 PM
:clapper:  great thread. My hat is off to all the ladies.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 13, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
Chauvinist.

JUST KIDDING!!!!  :scared:  
Killdeer  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: SHOOTO8S on May 13, 2008, 11:09:00 PM
Terry....some cutie pies girls, you got there...aren't you glad they favor their MOM ...LOL

Girls are at least 100% easier to coach...most are open minded (not all though:D  ) dont have a macho image to protect at all costs...plus they smell better     :biglaugh:    

Heres a vid of a 17 yo that I've been coaching...if boys will leave her alone for another year    "[dntthnk]"   , she will be a better shooter, than 90% of the men in the country !  

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/shooto8s/th_emvids004.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v249/shooto8s/?action=view¤t=emvids004.flv)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Texas Tinman on May 14, 2008, 01:03:00 AM
I wanna play...

3 years old at her first 3D shoot...shot all 30 targets!
   (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/tinman5575/jadynfulldraw.jpg)

Shooting in the yard...
   (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/tinman5575/pr-jadyn013.jpg)

   (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/tinman5575/Pictures029.jpg)

4 years old first "rabbit" hunt...
   (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/tinman5575/Pictures059.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Bowferd on May 14, 2008, 01:31:00 AM
Kildeer, You did good. The attention that your post has recieved is a direct reflection of what our hearts and souls tell us is rightous and true. Keep them youngsters independent minded and free. And for all you ladys out there, bring up some good ones, just like you.
Fred
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Aram on May 14, 2008, 09:55:00 AM
Just a warning.
Next thing they'll want to drive a car... Sheeesh!!! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 14, 2008, 10:08:00 AM
Careful, Aram...uppity women vote, too.

  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Pinecone on May 14, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
I'm with you, Killie!  Us uppity types can be found in the most "unconventional" of places...Board rooms, Senate floors, and yes, even Archery ranges   :D  .  Pretty cool...!

Claudia
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Aram on May 14, 2008, 05:55:00 PM
I don't know, I'm going to Baltimore this weekend. If I see any "girls" shooting I'll let you "guys" know.    :p    
It will be good to see you again Killdeer.    :campfire:  
Good thread. Looks like it stirred lots of response. I agree with you, it is "self-limiting" and just really, really sad.
(But my agreeing with you doesn't count. I know better than to disagree.    :D    )


P.S.Do I get voted back in now? Please?
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Stone Knife on May 14, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/420W/Hawkeyegirls.jpg)

   (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/420W/BeckyatHawkeye.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: larry on May 14, 2008, 07:48:00 PM
how'd I miss this thread?

"shooting is not for girls"  I agree 100%.
Killy, send me all of your bows. And while you're at it, send me all of your guns to. girls shouldn't play with such things  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 14, 2008, 08:26:00 PM
Who's playing?

Aram, we voted you back in, but you can't use the ladies' room yet.

Killdeer  :smileystooges:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Stone Knife on May 14, 2008, 09:15:00 PM
Larry my daughter is going to hurt you if I show her what you are posting   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: countrygirl on May 14, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
Great thread Killie!  I enjoyed reading it and also enjoyed watching Tarz' girls on the video.  Wow...they have grown.  In some ways I am a lot like Sarah.   ;)

BTW...the surest way to get me to do something is to tell me I can't!
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Leon.R on May 15, 2008, 04:34:00 AM
Not shooting but flyfishing made her a custom rod and she loves it - only 4.
I started her bow and she keeps on hounding me for it.
 (http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh251/Havoc1968/28042008.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: ber643 on May 15, 2008, 07:50:00 AM
I posted on here the other day and, as I (too) often do anymore, I must have hit the "close" button instead of the "Add Reply" when I finished. I love the thread and after Baltimore and Hickory (next two weekends) I am gonna get back here for all these great Full Draw Pics and fill up the new Page 16 on my Traditional Bows Drawn pages of my web site.

I just last Friday found myself teaching a crash course in Trad shooting to the Lady Marine who is the ex-wife of another great Marine friend - so she could introduce her Colonel's Scout Troop to trad archery this past weekend. She was a good compound shooter (Her ex-husband bought her my old wheel bow when I quit that), and a natural athlete and shooter. We had a blast and she took to trad like a duck to water. She brought back the "stuff" I loaned her for the Scouts yeasterday and said it went great, she had a ball, the kids had a ball, the Col. was happy as a clam, he and the Kids sent thanks to me - and (GunnySgt) Sara is hooked on trad and is coming back for more shooting - wants to get a primitive bow now. She says, "... the more primitive the better - I'm not into it for the competition, I'm into it for the SHOOTING!" You go, girl! I'm delighted to help any that I can. She'll outshoot me in no time - just like her ex-husband did - LOL.

(Now let's see if I can find the "Add Reply" button -    :archer:   )
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 15, 2008, 08:12:00 AM
Good going, Bernie! Nice to see ol' Countrygirl pop her head in the door, too. I know all too well her scrappy nature, and do my best to stay on her good side. Besides, I'm scared of Tom.

I hope to get lots of good pics this weekend at Baltimore, though it looks like my camera is starting to fall prey to the vicissitudes of time and travel. I hope it doesn't crap out completely. I think I will bring my film camera as backup.

Archery lasts a lifetime.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/ATAR06/Priceless.jpg)

Kathy

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Christmas19692pspedit.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Gatekeeper on May 15, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
This should fit with this thread.

 http://www.rhapsody.com/deanacarter/imjustagirl


NO DOUBT LYRICS

"Just A Girl"

Take this pink ribbon off my eyes
I'm exposed
And it's no big surprise
Don't you think I know
Exactly where I stand
This world is forcing me
To hold your hand
'Cause I'm just a girl, little 'ol me
Don't let me out of your sight
I'm just a girl, all pretty and petite
So don't let me have any rights

Oh...I've had it up to here!
The moment that I step outside
So many reasons
For me to run and hide
I can't do the little things I hold so dear
'Cause it's all those little things
That I fear

'Cause I'm just a girl I'd rather not be
'Cause they won't let me drive
Late at night I'm just a girl,
Guess I'm some kind of freak
'Cause they all sit and stare
With their eyes

I'm just a girl,
Take a good look at me
Just your typical prototype

Oh...I've had it up to here!
Oh...am I making myself clear?
I'm just a girl
I'm just a girl in the world...
That's all that you'll let me be!
I'm just a girl, living in captivity
Your rule of thumb
Makes me worry some

I'm just a girl, what's my destiny?
What I've succumbed to Is making me numb
I'm just a girl, my apologies
What I've become is so burdensome
I'm just a girl, lucky me
Twiddle-dum there's no comparison

Oh...I've had it up to!
Oh...I've had it up to!!
Oh...I've had it up to here!
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 15, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
I saw this cute picture on the Tn Classic thread. Reminded me of my granddaughter when she was young.

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/classiclittlegirl.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 15, 2008, 09:41:00 AM
My good friend ApplePie took that pic, it sorta says it all.  :thumbsup:  

Killdeer  :archer:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Yaak on May 15, 2008, 06:50:00 PM
Killie, I've always enjoyed your thread. It always puts a smile on my face whenever I read it at work. Just takes the stress away. I hope to meet you in Baltimore this weekend.

-Rudy
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Van/TX on May 15, 2008, 08:44:00 PM
Shooting is not for girls?  Wrong  :D  ...Van

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/VanTX/Chester2007/TeenArcherChester.jpg)

I took this pic a couple of years ago at Chester. Her family was shooting in the group behind us and having a great time...Van
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on May 15, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
ttt
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Littlemans-Grampa on May 16, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
Kathy, Thank You for the kind words! If we all can keep kids, youth, Men & especially Women intrested in Archery and the Great Outdoor Life that all of us here at the TradGang enjoy, maybe JUST maybe this world or our part of of it could be a better place to live. So we all have to thank those who have gone before us, for this wonderous thing called the Bow & Arrow.
May The Creator Watch over Us All! >>--->
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Al Kidner on May 20, 2008, 02:09:00 PM
Cool thread Killy, I just found it, and your right... shooting is not only for the boys.

Daddy's little girl/tomboy/ deerstalker a few years ago...

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/Isobel.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/IsobelSamuel.jpg)

AK.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Daddy Bear on May 22, 2008, 12:10:00 AM
My Beautiful Lexie:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUTPVMmTqDY

Daddy Bear
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Shakes.602 on May 22, 2008, 03:35:00 AM
There is Nothing I can Say about this Thread that has NOT Already Been Said!!
   I Have 2 Up & Coming GrandDaughters, 9 days & Other is 7 Months! These Pictures are Great!! Now all it will take Is getting them some gear..........But NOT for a Couple of Years!!
  Both of their Mothers, My Girls, LOVED to Shoot, and I FULLY INTEND to Pass what I have Learned & Love!!
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Ghost Dog on May 22, 2008, 11:05:00 AM
For the first 11 years of my daughters life it was just the two of us. I raised her to believe that she was a human being first, and a girl second. She is twenty now, and does not know the meaning of being limited by her gender. And yes, she shoots a bow.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: ber643 on May 22, 2008, 11:09:00 AM
I have taken the first step to putting the full draws here in my TBD pages - I've "saved" those. Hopefully I'll get these and some others (from B'mor and Hickory shoots, and another forum) posted after Hickory. I won't have all the names and bow info, as I usually do but they should be there anyway - to encourage, inspire, and thank.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 22, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
I hadda put it here, too! Go ahead and click it.
I double-dawg dare ya!
Ya see that light spot on the bear?
   :bigsmyl:  

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/BBTC/BBTC%2008/th_Gotcha.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/BBTC/BBTC%2008/Gotcha.jpg)

Killdeer
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Tom on May 22, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
See that white dot, must be a big fly,eh?
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 22, 2008, 08:20:00 PM
I'll see YOU at ATAR, Tom!  :readit:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Doc Nock on May 22, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
Killy,

I spent the whole weekend givin ya a ration of sass! But having just found this thread, I'd say "hat's off, Gal!"  You done good bringing this to light.

Matt's older sister used to come to B'more years ago with Dad when she wasn't more'n 11 or so. And could that gal shoot!

Nothing lightens my heart more than seeing kids fishing or shooting unless it's young gals gettin after it and makin their way!

All outdoor sports need more support and the best way to keep what we've got is to share it with the female side of our world. Kids and women are our future!

Thanks, Killy. You rock!
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Rick Butler on May 22, 2008, 08:53:00 PM
Here's my daughter in Florida. Master Sgt. Cortney Spangler USAF.  She makes me proud.
 (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/rickbutler693/000_0453.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 22, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
She makes me proud, too. God bless and keep her.
Killdeer
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Arrow Slinga on May 23, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
MY youngest kaitlin with bullseye I think she can out shoot her old man!
  (http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t204/1arrowslinger66/e-bayphotos042.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Brian Krebs on May 23, 2008, 02:10:00 AM
this has been a beautiful topic! And Kidner; that picture of your tomboy - it is truley a work of art; you must hold it as the treasure it is   :notworthy:  


  :campfire:    :archer:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: shamus on May 23, 2008, 11:46:00 AM
shooting is not for "girls"?
You tell her that!

 More details here. (http://analogperiphery.blogspot.com/2008/05/m-shoots-her-first-selfbow.html)  


  (http://bp0.blogger.com/_Gs1SWWY8pDY/SC4WUuHSbEI/AAAAAAAABCc/kpKCkaa0yVw/s400/m+archer+1++5.2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: barebow62 on May 23, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
Girls can shoot,but lets face it thet are not very good!!!   hahaha!!   my mrs shoots a 32# compound and at 30 yards i can often pull her 6 arrows with one hand,from the gold!  i shoot a sa widow 80# @ 28" and have never outshot her yet,so to be honest im just bitter and jealous!! lol.....regards to all,jon
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Tom on May 23, 2008, 03:45:00 PM
Killy,
 Don't think I can keep with you and that whole new stable of yours-must be something to keep all of them feed.
 Yes, I do hope to catch up with you at ATAR, fancy getting a peek at that ACS, Morrison,& etc.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Killdeer on May 23, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
I think I may need a safe.  :scared:
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Tom on May 24, 2008, 07:25:00 AM
Jealousy rears its ugly head,Killy. No intention of adding, by any means, of adding to an over crowded rack as is.
 But it is fun to see what I am missing.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: 6X5 on May 24, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
The only reason I can think of for girls (women) not to shoot a bow is that they just might whop us!!!!!
Far as I know the ladies have eye hand coordination and eyesight equal to or better than a mans. Nough said.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 24, 2008, 11:13:00 AM
A couple of years ago at the Al state shoot this little girl and her grampa joined our group. We shot 3 complete rounds with her and she was the most enthusiastic archer I have ever seen.

We were completely spent after three rounds but she was ready to hit the course again. She ran to the first target and waited for another group so she could go out again. Before the day was up I believe she shot 5 complete, 25 target rounds.

I think her name was Kayla but am not sure. In the picture she is pointing to a pinwheel ten she made on the bear.

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/tournament%20pics/Kalatannehillbear07.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: JockC on May 24, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
Killdeer--
Can you e-mail as separate files those terrific images in your opening post?  I want to print them out for my daugher.  GREAT thread; thanks!
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Mockingbird on May 24, 2008, 11:20:00 PM
If you ain't seen it, go back to page one and look at the pic of that little girl in the red jacket at full draw. Her form is excellent! I should have such form! Look at her eyes; intent, focused. Serious business. If she stays with it, we'll hear from her, I promise.
Title: Re: Shooting is not for girls.
Post by: Van/TX on May 28, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
Great thread  :bigsmyl:  ...Van