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Title: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: BrokenArrows on August 26, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
New for August 04. Has an aluminum Tec riser and maple laminated limbs. 62" AMO. My riser is black w clear glass limbs, also comes camo/camo. Comes w nice padded roll up case, DynaFlight97 string, silencers, rest/plate, wrenches. Drilled for sight/quiver, rest and stabilizer.

It's got a wide shelf cut past center. The stick on rest/plate were too narrow for me (I shot way right). Put a NAP Center Flipper rest on it and tuned it, now it shoots great. Very fast, smooth, and quiet.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Suremissalot on October 07, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
Can you post any pictures? Have you chronied it yet? Sorry for all the questions, but this looks like it might be my next bow.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: trevor_archer on October 29, 2004, 04:35:00 PM
A friend of mine shot the gamemaster, and said for the price, it was a pretty good bow.  pretty smooth, pretty fast , kinda noisy.  He's used to wooden handled bows, I guess.  Even after looking at it, I cant say that I would buy it.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: PAPALAPIN on February 09, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
The curious thing about the HOYT GAMEMASTER is that the most I see posted on them is people trying to sell them almost new, and no one wanting to buy them.

WASSUP WIT DAT!
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Doug R on February 09, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
Most of the time from what I've seen its because they want one with lighter poundage limbs. I have shot one and realy liked it, smooth draw and quick. A little noisey in my opinion but I have heard from enough that own one  that it shouldnt be much of a problem to fix. The price seems to vary quite a bit from different areas. So some can buy a new for what some want for used. I'm sure it will level out when more bows are out.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Tom Cappon on March 14, 2005, 08:34:00 PM
Gonna know more on the Gamemaster recurves 2005 model. Trying to get one to shoot is impossible. All the dealers say you have to buy one to get one through there dealerships her in upstate NY Called every one here and No one has one to shoot. Can any one tell me more.I like wood bows but am willing to try this on,Its not like the PSE coyote I hope.. Someone please tell me more cause I don't think you can try one here until you buy. Not sure its woth buying one,until I get to shoot it. Can't believe Hoyt won't give us more on the bow Thanks Tom
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Str8Shooter on March 18, 2005, 03:18:00 AM
I've posted on other sites and forums about the Hoyt Gamemasters but I'll give you the scoop on these bows.

In my opinion, it's one of the best shooting and valued bows on the market. You've got the proven Hoyt geometry in the bows (deflexed riser and proven olympic style limbs) on a hunting length and weight bow. This gives an awesome combination of performance and stability. The bow has a good feel in the hand and balances well during and after the shot. Smooth draw out to about 29.5" to 30". The grip on the bow is narrow and, I feel, very torque free.

I think the Gamemaster is a very versatile bow. Of course, as a takedown it offers the option of multiple limb weights. With standard mounting holes for stabilizer, rest, sight/quiver the bow can be set up many ways. It can be shot off the shelf with little setup for those who prefer the "barebow" feel. You can set it up with a rest, stab. , sights, etc for a full blown target rig, or even as a bowfishing bow without spending a wad on special attachments. I can't think of many other bows that offer this versatility.

I personally have mine set up with a NAP CenterRest and a quiver. The rest give beatiful arrow flight and allows more control on the tuning process. I put a little adhesive backed neoprene under the limbs to take out any limb/riser sound (something I do on any takedown bow anyways), a little moleskin where the string contacts the limb, silencers in the string, and I just recently put Limbsavers on it 4" from the riser on the belly of the limbs. I've found metal riser bows to have a different tone when shot and the limbsavers completely eliminate that. It is super quiet, smooth, and very quick. At 8 gr/lb with my 28.5" draw the bow averages 202 fps, 9 gr/lb 194 fps, 10 gr/lb 189 fps, and thats as far as I tested. Those numbers are with a 12 strand d-97 string. Dacron averaged about 9-11 fps slower and the original factory string about 4-5 fps slower.  Certainly performs equal or better to many customs I've handled.

The biggest problem I've heard with these bows is the noise. I think that the problem is with the string supplied with the bow. They may have changed this but originally they were making the strings from a zero stretch material. The same material used to make cables for compounds. That material has no give and makes a distinctive noise on release. I've since switched to a few other string materials and they are all significantly quieter. In fact, with the new strings I've got on my bows I don't need Limbsavers to get rid of noise... it's not there. I'd recommend getting rid of the original string right away and using a D-97 or 8125 string on the bow.

For the money and the shooting characteristics of the bow I don't think you can go wrong. Since I've recieved mine I'm selling all my other bows.  My search is at an end :-)

Chris
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: holadude on December 23, 2005, 09:56:00 AM
I shot with a guy that had one at Denton last summer.  His was 53# @28" just like my Widow, and it put the arrows out fast!  I tried it and liked it.  A little noisier than my Widow, but felt good.
We chrono'd our bows and his Hoyt chrono'd at around 200fps with 550 grain arrows and he only has about 27" draw.  I pull 28" and my widow only put out 190fps with 500 grain carbons, so the Hoyt outshot mine in power.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Ray Hammond on December 23, 2005, 11:00:00 AM
I am getting one to field test, along with some new carbon inside/aluminum outside arrows that are 14.1 grains per inch...will have them pretty soon.

Will post back once its in my hot little hands.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Hunt Stealth on December 24, 2005, 09:18:00 AM
What is the cost of the Hoyt Gamemaster, can anyone tell me.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on January 02, 2006, 11:52:00 PM
$409.00 for a new one at a local dealer here in PA.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: fatkitty27 on January 11, 2006, 04:45:00 PM
I got the gamemaster about a month ago, and I have to say that I am one satisfied customer!  I've been shooting compound exclusively for the past 8 years or so (going from a cheap no-name model to a Golden Eagle Ultra-Evolution to a PSE G-Force).  I like my trusty g-force, but I have to admit that I have a new favourite in this Hoyt.  

I can't offer the kind of review that Str8shooter has provided, but I can say that it's surprisingly fast even at 48#/29.5 inches (and I'm used to a g-force @ 75 pounds!), totally shock-free, not too loud (IMHO), and insanely solid, thanks to the Tec riser.  Speaking of that, it's almost a strange feeling to draw the bow and not feel any flex in the grip: zip, zero, nothing - in fact, it's something you have to experience to realize that it's not a gimmick.  As a plus, due to the Tec design, the grip itself is quite small, and with the way I grip the bow (semi-open handed with a curled index finger), it feels just perfect and is torque-free.  But...For someone who like a "meaty" grip, it would likely be a turn-off though, just FYI.

When handling and assembling the bow, you can tell it's top-quality tackle, but it's a Hoyt, so no surpise there.  It comes with a flemmish string, which I like, but realize it's a matter of opinion so I'll just leave it at that.

I've been shooting it instinctively off the shelf, just to get used to its feel and to find my anchor, but plan to put a nice sight (gibbs perhaps) and rest on it in the near future.
 
Although I love all-out speed and lettoff etc, I can't say that I miss anything about compound shooting.  In fact, now that I've gotten used to the gamegetter, I rather like the feel of shooting from the peak of the draw rather than a lettoff valley.  

One thing to be cautious of, and this is what I'm guessing is causing lots of quick turnover (see above): I think that people are buying them too heavy.  I can't stress enough that I very comfortably shoot my g-force at 75 lbs (I'm 6ft, 190 lbs in good shape), but the gamegetter, even at 48 lbs, has me very aware that I'm holding the weight.  Don't get me wrong; it's smooth and stack-free, but it may not feel like that at first to someone used to a high letoff compound - especially if they get a model at 55 or 60 lbs.  In fact, even 50 pounds may not be too enjoyable at first for some.

All in all, I'm confident that my gamegetter will see more time on my range than anything else!

I hope this helps!
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: wlmorris on January 11, 2006, 11:37:00 PM
Has anybody tried the New Hoyt Tiburon ?
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: fatkitty27 on January 12, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
Not yet, but interestingly, when I went to the shop, I was planning to buy the Tibouron; however, I would have had to order it.  The shop owner said it's almost the same as the G-Getter to shoot, just a little more expensive, a bit less "skeletal" looking in the riser and a bit heavier.  I opted for the G-getter as it was immediatley avaialable, (allegedly) lighter and because I could test it out.

Anyway, all that to say that the tibouron looks and sounds like it's really sweet, and if it really is similar to the G.Getter, it should shoot nice.  I'm curious as well to hear what others think of it.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on January 14, 2006, 12:57:00 AM
My Gamemaster arrived yesterday and I couldn't be happier.
Mine has Win&Win "Focus" limbs (carbon/maple Olympic limbs) an NAP Centerrest flipper, short stabilizer, quiver and Mountain Muffler strings.

It is very quiet. (almost as quiet as the Black Swan Hybrid I just finished testing) It is extremely smooth (about 48# at my 27.5" draw) and has absolutely no stack for as far back as I can pull it. Obviously there is no handshock or vibration.

It is currently set up with some Arrow Dynamics Trad Lights and I am shooting better than I have ever shot with traditional equipment. I could not be happier.

My Gamemaster isn't exactly stock but it does show the inherent flexability of the design.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Robert Cunfer on January 14, 2006, 07:13:00 AM
My Game getter was a 50# camo/camo model. Although this bow seemed fast it was noisy,and I did not care for the small grip. I shot stumps and targets with it awhile but it just was not for me. I changed strings and had the limbsavers on still that matallic ring...Just my 2 cents ..Bobby
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on January 14, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
I think one of the most important things you can do to these bows is put something between the limbs and the riser to provide some padding. I have seen some people use a piece of inner tube. I have the back of the limb and the riser interface covered with cloth camo tape.
I also have a set of limbsavers and the Mountain Muffler strings. The string currently has a set of string leaches but I will probably replace those with some whiskers before too long.

My bow is remarkably quiet. I really like the small grip. It fits my hand very well.

Do you have any good shoots over there in Slatington? I have some very close friends that live in town so I find myself over there from time to time.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on January 27, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
I had the chance to shoot my custom Gamemaster through a chronograph today.
The bow is set up with W&W Focus limbs, 48# at my draw length. Tie on nock point and 2 rubber whiskers on a DF97 Mountain Muffler string. Using a W&W 360 tab. The arrows are Arrow Dynamics Traditional Lites with a finished weight of 461gr.
I was shooting between 180 and 185fps.

Call it 183 at 9.6gr/lb
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on January 27, 2006, 06:59:00 PM
Gamemaster conversions ar now officially offered by   DAS Kinetics (http://www.kineticbows.com/index.php?category=24)
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: teach on March 17, 2006, 06:50:00 PM
Jaeger,
      Just took possesion of my gamemaster modified by Dave Sosa of DAS Kinetics.I too have it tricked out with oly. limbs. I especially love the narrow grip. I also am shooting better than I ever have.
 Whats the wt. of your trad lights?
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: teach on March 17, 2006, 06:53:00 PM
Oops, did not see your post with arrow wt.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Snakeeater on March 17, 2006, 10:47:00 PM
The Tiburon is the same bow as the Gamemaster, except for the addition of vibration absorbing panels in being added to some of the cutouts in the riser. It adds a bit of good looks and helps quiet it down at the same time.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Ray Hammond on April 24, 2006, 09:05:00 PM
I am not particularly thrilled -its very noisy. I will add some rubber pieces under the limb attachment points to quiet it, and do some more tuning...but I think this is going to get set up as a bowfishing bow...for the time when I might EVER get invited to go bowfishing.

Its just not what I like...it might be fantastic for some....but by the time you spend all that money for additional decent limbs and all you could get yourself something functional and beautiful too...just my H.O.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: themonkey on April 24, 2006, 09:45:00 PM
i have to disagree with you, i love it, ive had mine for not even a week and am crazy about it, when you think about it, its the perfect bow once silenced properly, a bow where you can change the weights from 40 to 65 in 5 lb increments, saves me the trouble of having a bow seperate for hunting, target, and whatever else, the perfect bow, even if its noisey, that can all be changed, and for the money, it is one great looking bow
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on April 24, 2006, 09:46:00 PM
Ray, David Sousa at DAS sells some very nice pads that go between the limbs and riser as well as the limb bolt washers. I think if you use those, along with a Mountain Muffler string (check out the Mall at Tradtalk) your bow will quiet significantly.

I've been shooting the heck out of my bow. It's quiet, dead in the hand and with properly tuned arrows, is deadly accurate out to 50 yds. (Probably farther, but I'm not up to the task!)
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Ray Hammond on April 25, 2006, 02:33:00 PM
no slight intended to anyone that likes it...thats why we don't all shoot the same bow..it would be a dull world indeed if we all liked the same thing..or were limited in our choices, wouldn't it?

I'm glad you guys like yours and they work great for you. I think I've been shooting fat handled recurves for so long its just an "old dog learning new tricks" kind of a thing...you know?

Good shooting!
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Buglmin on April 25, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
In my opinion, the riser on the Game Master is great. It fits my hand, I can't torque it, and the balance ain't to bad. But I think that Hoyt could of done a lot better job on the limbs. I had a bowyer make me a set of limbs for mine, and oh baby, what a difference.
But like Ray said, some guys don't like them because of the riser, and the small grip. To a big handed person, the bow doesn't really feel that good to them. I have a buddy that the grip hurts him. Oh well, to each his own. Anthony
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on April 25, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
Absolutely! Variety is the spice of life.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Buglmin on April 26, 2006, 08:07:00 AM
When you look at the Tiburon, you'll see a change in the riser, and the grip. It's the small grip that makes the Game mAster a good bow. As for the silencing material that Hoyt added to the Tiburon, don't waste your money. You still need the properely spaced silencers, plus the limb savers to quiet the bow. All the silencing material did to the Tiburon was to add weight to the riser.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: themonkey on May 08, 2006, 05:34:00 PM
holy crap, i just chronoed my gamemaster yesterday, and with a 2115 w/ 125 point it was throwing em out @ 160fps, and only pulling 42lbs! 180 w/ an overspined easton fatboy....what a beast, my 55lb fast flite super kodiak didnt even throw @ 160
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: teach on May 09, 2006, 08:44:00 PM
Chroned mine Sun. DAS tricked out 45# oly.limbs,
403gr.Easton Axis,179fps.I was impressed.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: jmvargas on June 02, 2006, 02:41:00 AM
put a doinker 4 inch shorty hunting stabilizer on my 45# gamemaster in addition to limbsavers and string silencers....shooting 2016 xx75 with 100grain B52 broadheads....super quiet!!
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: GameMaster on June 02, 2006, 09:24:00 AM
Bought mine Oct. of 2004 and still like it alot. Most complaints are noise,skinny grip and not getting the right poundage when you get it. Mine I wanted 50 lb. but turned out 58 lb. I've taken 5 deer with it so far in two seasons. Arrows are alm. 2117's 29.75 in. long. Last year hunted with 11-32 cedar shafts and 90 grain bodkin 3-bladed heads, excellent penatration. Shooting the old springy rest both wood and alm. and getting great arrow flight. Shot a round of archery golf this spring and the bow out shot the rest. I shoot mine at 7.5 with a fast flight string. My only complaint is the skinny grip, I do torque arrows to the left because of the shape of the grip itself, I'm left handed. For the money 385.00 you can't beat it.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: cajuntec on July 20, 2006, 08:42:00 PM
How do I get ahold of DAS for the pads?
All the best,
Glenn
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: Jaeger on July 22, 2006, 12:46:00 AM
DAS Kinetics (http://www.kineticbows.com/index.php?maincat=5&PHPSESSID=379177d7424be576c6b6f496bde1ea58)  

Between the antivibration pads, limbsavers and a little string silencing, my bow is very quiet and totally dead in the hand.
Title: Re: Hoyt GameMaster T/D Recurve
Post by: BCD on August 24, 2006, 02:08:00 PM
Bought a GM 2weeks ago. I love the bow. It is slightly nosier than some of my wood bows, but not much. I am goign to put some limbsavers on it. This is a quality high performing bow.

BCD